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Dec 5, 2012
 
Why Is There Something Rather Than Nothing?

Short answer: Why not?

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvaria...
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#44896
Dec 5, 2012
 
Cult of Reason wrote:
Sounds like you were more talking cause and effect.
I don't know exactly how you mean this.

But I do like to point out the difference between causation and correlation (or association), a conflation I see often.
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Saying that atheists believe something came from nothing is a straw argument perpetuated by religious apologists.
It certainly is a straw man with this man.(That being me!)
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Never mind the fact that "nothing" is more a concept than a reality. In reality, there is no "nothing". Even empty space has quantum fluctuations with quantum particles seemingly coming into and out of existence. The fact is, matter and energy could have always existed. There could be any number of explanations for the big bang ranging from it being a cyclical event or it could have been the result of different dimensions colliding. Who knows? Surely not the religionists. Again, I think your talking cause and effect. As far as energy and quantum particles is concerned, why did it have to be made? Why can't it be that it just always existed. Carl Sagan said it pretty well in the following video...
http://youtu.be/Ag6fH8cU-MU
Couldn't agree with Carl more.

The origin of all this is definitely unknown and likely unknowable. People like you and me can live with that. Others cannot it seems.

One of my pet peeves in life (along with non-blinker-using lane changers) is people who state something authoritatively while being WRONG. Basically I never belive them again.
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#44897
Dec 5, 2012
 
Cult of Reason wrote:
Why Is There Something Rather Than Nothing?
Short answer: Why not?
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvaria...
Yeah, he says maybe not even the right question.

Fascinating what the 'ole googler turns up.
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Dec 5, 2012
 
Frijoles wrote:
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There was a time when most of my social life revolved around the city. Yes, UWS. They create the BEST music in that place. And was(still is?) a singles place. That's its other reputation - music and singles.
Ahhh, like the Unitarians!(Singles, not as sure about the music.)

Love the city. Walking the Brooklyn Bridge. 5th Avenue around xmas time. All good. Washingto square. etc

Was in Tampa this summer with my very Catholic uncle (he sponsored my at my confirmation). And of so of coures we went to church.

They had the best music I ever heard in a Catholic church and I tool the music director so.

Real piano (not an organ); electric gutair; flute - great singing. good songs even.

Makes all the differecne. I think I even gave more $$!!
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Dec 5, 2012
 
former res wrote:
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Ahhh, like the Unitarians!(Singles, not as sure about the music.)
Love the city. Walking the Brooklyn Bridge. 5th Avenue around xmas time. All good. Washingto square. etc
Was in Tampa this summer with my very Catholic uncle (he sponsored my at my confirmation). And of so of coures we went to church.
They had the best music I ever heard in a Catholic church and I tool the music director so.
Real piano (not an organ); electric gutair; flute - great singing. good songs even.
Makes all the differecne. I think I even gave more $$!!
I guess it makes sense - religious institutions often produce good music (i.e. gospel, gregorian chants etc etc..). In BJs case (yes, the synagogue is referred to by those two VERY amusing initials) being in NYC they attract quality supporting musicians. I have a few CDs of some of the spinoff instrumental stuff. The clergy themselves have strong voices and a hip sense of beat, they could easily be rock stars in another profession.

The longer I live in CT the less I go into the city, except for business. Fatigue and cheapness.

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Dec 5, 2012
 
former res wrote:
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Ahhh, like the Unitarians!
My brother in law is one of those. Rather nice religion (if there is a religion beneath it all).
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Cult of Reason wrote:
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Never mind the fact that "nothing" is more a concept than a reality. In reality, there is no "nothing".
I am still trying to grapple with the notion of imaginary numbers.

Though, ashamedly I have to admit the idea has become easier to grasp over time the more I converse with some of the less logical people here on this forum.
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former res wrote:
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Real piano (not an organ); electric gutair; flute - great singing. good songs even.
Makes all the differecne. I think I even gave more $$!!
Some of the popular instruments I remember include the oud, djemba, cello, electric guitar and fiddle.
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former res wrote:
Can Something Come from Nothing?
http://commonsenseatheism.com/...
I think they're saying no, but I'm not sure.
rabbee: well according to all, my scientific studies. that everytime you divide something, you get a lot of nothing in between. so i am not so sure, this world is looking at anything right. with a lot of their nothing, truly in between their ears.
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Frijoles wrote:
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I am still trying to grapple with the notion of imaginary numbers.
Though, ashamedly I have to admit the idea has become easier to grasp over time the more I converse with some of the less logical people here on this forum.
rabbee: well so called real numbers, are said to only exist on the x,y,z axix planes. and any point between the x,y,z axis is called imaginary. so they are not as imaginary, as the are reported to be.

cause it is like, telling a clock, that the only real numbers are 12 - 3 - 6 - 9. and all the rest in between, are all only imaginary numbers.
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Frijoles wrote:
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I guess it makes sense - religious institutions often produce good music (i.e. gospel, gregorian chants etc etc..). In BJs case (yes, the synagogue is referred to by those two VERY amusing initials) being in NYC they attract quality supporting musicians. I have a few CDs of some of the spinoff instrumental stuff. The clergy themselves have strong voices and a hip sense of beat, they could easily be rock stars in another profession.
The longer I live in CT the less I go into the city, except for business. Fatigue and cheapness.
I would definitely go.

We also go to the city (any city) less and less.
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Dec 5, 2012
 
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>My brother in law is one of those. Rather nice religion (if there is a religion beneath it all).
I remember my dad (former altar boy) saying, "oh they aren't REALLY a religion!" LOL
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Frijoles wrote:
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Some of the popular instruments I remember include the oud, djemba, cello, electric guitar and fiddle.
rabbee: well my favorite instruments, were the anylitical balance, the spectromether, the microscope, spintheroscope, nicrome bead wire, data-loggers, scintillators, spectrum anylizers, lasers, and x-ray anylitical devices. just to name a few, of my favorite instruments/toys. in the unheard of, symphony.
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Frijoles wrote:
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Some of the popular instruments I remember include the oud, djemba, cello, electric guitar and fiddle.
The first two I would have to google.:)

Fiddles are always good.
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Dec 5, 2012
 
Halleluyah! The gentleman with the driving gripes wishes to communicate with the outside world.(I have to admit that I was finding his posts amusing, if not a bit on the manic side.)

Welcome!
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former res wrote:
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The first two I would have to google.:)
Fiddles are always good.
Middle eastern - North African influence
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#44912
Dec 5, 2012
 
Drake Baby Formula wrote:
You mean fiddlers on the roof? As long as you not driving then stay on the roof.
I see you, hunched over your computer in the basment.

Still in you flannel pj's.

Cheeto dust on your chin.

Yelling upstairs:

"Mom! Make me a sammitch!"

They just say, "ahh, he doesn't really bother anyone."

Remember, if you never go outside, you'll need to take extra vitamin D.

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Frijoles wrote:
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I am still trying to grapple with the notion of imaginary numbers.
Though, ashamedly I have to admit the idea has become easier to grasp over time the more I converse with some of the less logical people here on this forum.
Admittedly, the human mind wasn't designed to think deeply of things such as "infinity" and "nothing" since those traits weren't essential for survival, and thus, not prone to evolve by natural selection. It's these inherent limitations that lead many astray, trying to put agency and purpose where none necessarily need to be in an effort to resolve questions that are unanswerable.
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rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: well my favorite instruments, were the anylitical balance, the spectromether, the microscope, spintheroscope, nicrome bead wire, data-loggers, scintillators, spectrum anylizers, lasers, and x-ray anylitical devices. just to name a few, of my favorite instruments/toys. in the unheard of, symphony.
So I was going to pose this question to Yoda....

If you make a two slurries of soil solution - the first with KCl and the second with distilled water, and test for pH of each slurry, and the KCl slurry sample has a lower pH than the distilled water slurry sample, is the soil minerology more dominated by kaolinite (a 1:1 clay) or smectite (a 2:1 clay)? Why?

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Frijoles wrote:
Halleluyah! The gentleman with the driving gripes wishes to communicate with the outside world.(I have to admit that I was finding his posts amusing, if not a bit on the manic side.)
Welcome!
Yes. Comic relief is always good to break up the tension and monotony. Keep up the good work Drake.

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