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HughBe

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Nov 28, 2012
 
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Oh!
You mean the "10 LOST Tribes of Israel!"
You should have said so.
Now, what was your question again?
Frijoles would know much more about all this than me.
Lack of knowledge of the subject matter is your challenge because my previous posts and context made it clear to those who know.
Eric

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HughBe wrote:
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If he is not then you are NOT an American. You should let the US government know about your status.
Why are you so ashamed that you are an American? You live in Jamaica; which is part of the Greater Antilles; which is part of North America. By definition (Merriam Webster, op cit) you are an American.
Frijoles

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Lack of knowledge of the subject matter is your challenge because my previous posts and context made it clear to those who know.
I agree with that.

The only problem is that the population size of potential adherents that appear "to know" this appears to be ONE.

(and it ain't me)
Frijoles

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Eric wrote:
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Why are you so ashamed that you are an American? You live in Jamaica; which is part of the Greater Antilles; which is part of North America. By definition (Merriam Webster, op cit) you are an American.
Do you think Mark Twain is on the required reading list of Jamaican 8th or 9th grades?
Frijoles

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The largest Abrahamic religions are, in order, Christianity, Islam and Judaism. Other Abrahamic religions include Druze and Baha'i Faith.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religi...
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So Huggy, you may rightfully claim you follow an Abrahamic relgion, but not Judaism.
Don't be upset.
Just be happy to live and learn.
Complicating all of this of course is that Hughbe is indirectly asking the wrong question. The question isnt really who is the first Jew, but when did the Jewish people start.

Hughbe, as a Christian, sees everything is the individualistic perspective.

Jews, on the other hand, traditionally speaking, are an expression of a collective tribal identity. Sure, Judaism is the religion of the Jewish people (I.E. individuals are "Jewish". But for the religion to be truely practiced, it has to be practiced in a social, collective environment.

So regardless of the obvious flaws in his internal logic, the fact is that he isnt even using the correct paradigm to frame his criticism.

But none of that is really news. Missionary Christians have been trying to understand and remake Jews according to their own images for millenium.

He really needs to learn how to drum. Enervate his inner tribal.
former res

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Former---Just what is your point anyway?
HughBe--- you talk too much BS. For example, "The ancient ROOTS of Judaism lie in the Bronze Age polytheistic Ancient Semitic RELIGIONS, specifically CANAANITE religion, a syncretization with elements of Zoroastrianism and of the worship of Yahweh reflected in the early prophetic books of the Hebrew Bible"
Based on scripture God gave Moses and Israel His Laws etc. Israel was to be a peculiar people a holy nation etc. and this would not have become a reality by LEARNING the ways of the non-Jewish goyim.
Do you know what the word PECULIAR means?
Later and take care.
I'm sorry - I didn't catch the name of your religion?

Whatever it is, it seems to one the many wrong religions.

I rest my case. You are an idiot.
former res

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Former--Who do you think wrote the scriptures? God? You slay me!
HughBe--My dear, the scribe is not necessarily the Author. Do you understand?
Take care.
What makes you think the "scribe" was divinely inspired?

Is it just a warm feeling on you insides?

It could just be the Christmas spirit starting early.

Bless you, my son.
former res

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Lack of knowledge of the subject matter is your challenge because my previous posts and context made it clear to those who know.
Well...I know enough to know that Jews don't believe in Christ you dumb fxck!

:))
former res

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Nov 28, 2012
 
Please excuse my language.

This gay Jamaican is quite maddenng.
Frijoles

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I forgive you, my son.
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I agree with that.
The only problem is that the population size of potential adherents that appear "to know" this appears to be ONE.
(and it ain't me)
Couldn't be you. It is my connection.
HughBe

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I'm sorry - I didn't catch the name of your religion?
Whatever it is, it seems to one the many wrong religions.
I rest my case. You are an idiot.
Former---You are an idiot

HughBe---So, we complement each other as you are a she-diot.
HughBe

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What makes you think the "scribe" was divinely inspired?
Is it just a warm feeling on you insides?
It could just be the Christmas spirit starting early.
Bless you, my son.
Bless you, my dear.
HughBe

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Well...I know enough to know that Jews don't believe in Christ you dumb fxck!
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You "dumbER fxck" ask Eric's sister or Eric about that, both are JEWS.

If your "pencil" is as hard as your skull you shall NEVER need viagra.
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Please excuse my language.
This gay Jamaican is quite maddenng.
Correction, I am happy while YOU are GAY.

Get it?
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I forgive you, my son.
Forgive those who have wronged you and not me. Forgive those who have LIED to you and have DECEIVED you and then ejaculate them out of your system.

You know who they are yes they are those sons of ..........
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where are my boys?

Former, where are you?

Frijoles, where are you?

Eric, where are you?

I shall not be staying long so come out to play, now.
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Lecture 8 practice Based on the Teachings of Prophet Mohammad

Part-52

Pure Monotheism of Islam:

Through this shortest of surahs of the holy Quran emerges the purest and clearest concept of the Oneness of God. It leaves absolutely no chance for any form of polytheism to mar the Islamic Faith, based on the Oneness of Allah.

However, this does not mean that Prophet Muhammad’s Message has in any way weakened the bond that exists between the Most Merciful, Most Beneficent, and the Most Loving God and His servants. It has established the proper link between man and God. It has only removed the idolatry forms and physical likenesses which were the hurdles between man and God.

Man’s relation with Allah is a much purer, stronger, and higher relation than any he has known in this worldly life. Compared to it the relations between man and wife, or a father and son, or a daughter and mother are much inferior. Moreover, such similitude or metaphors lead to an error in interpretation and consequently to polytheism and doubt.

Therefore Islam says:

…Recite the name of Allah, as you would speak of your forefathers or even with greater fervor…(Chp.2:Vrs.200)

In this verse the likeness of the believers’ love for Allah to that of their love to their fathers is mentioned, and the likeness of a son’s relation with his father is avoided to explain his relation with Allah, which is on a more sublime level. No physical relationship can ever explain the bond between man and Allah.

The holy Quran goes on to say that one’s love for Allah should be greater than their love for their father:

…But those who believe are most firm in their love for Allah…(Chp.2; Vrs. 165)

Father versus Cherisher:

This means that true believers reserve their greatest love for Allah. The holy Quran does not call Allah “the father of the worlds” it rather uses the Arabic words which are best translated as “The Cherisher and the Sustainer of the worlds.”

A father’s relation with a son is temporary whereas Allah’s relation with His servants is sublime and eternal. Some Quranic words that are used to denote Allah’s Love for His servants may be translated as a father’s love for a son while others mean a mother’s love and affection for her children. But Allah is neither a father nor a mother. He is Sublime, beyond the scope of these similitudes and physical likenesses. No worldly relationship can ever adequately explain the bond that exists between Allah and His servants.

(Contd.)
Eric

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You "dumbER fxck" ask Eric's sister or Eric about that, both are JEWS.
If your "pencil" is as hard as your skull you shall NEVER need viagra.
No she isn't. She's a Christian.

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