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HughBe

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#44153
Nov 28, 2012
 
Eric wrote:
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I already answered that. Scroll back.
Sorry my previous comment was for Frijoles.

Now this is for you. Based on your INTENT are YOU an American or an Israeli or Israelite?
HughBe

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Nov 28, 2012
 
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Whatever. Call it what hou will. I guess we agree on this part.
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Riddle me this: How could Christians have "started Christianity" when heretofore, Christ did not exist?
Was Ben Franklin born wearing bifocals? Using electricty? Serving as postmaster general?
Or did all of this occur later, during his adult lifetime?
Was John Smith born a Morman? Is there anyway he could have been?
Could Protestants have existed prior to Christianity?
You make no sense.
Former---You make no sense

HughBe--- I understand , dear. My points remain as follows--

JEWS started Christianity.
JEWS are CENTRAL to Christianity starting with Moses and ALL the prophets and JESUS, the CHRIST and the apostles

Go ahead and CORRECT history.
Frijoles

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#44155
Nov 28, 2012
 
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You said Yankee. Who is a Yankee? Give ALL the meanings of Yankee.
I asked you, are YOU an American or an Israeli? Choose one and stop playing with yourself.
No, I said Yankee.

Eric is no Yankee. He lives in Illonois, for G-ds sake.

Didnt you ever read Mark Twain in school?
Frijoles

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#44156
Nov 28, 2012
 
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LIAR. I used "OUR" translation and DEMONSTRATED that God Almighty called them Jews even when they REJECTED Him. See Jeremiah 44 and many many others in OUR scriptures.
Note, I am not including your TALMUD scriptures.
Again, thank you for sharing your religious beliefs and your religious interpretations.

As far as "ours" I might quote the holy man Tonto- "What do you mean, WE, white man?"
former res

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#44158
Nov 28, 2012
 

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too ugly.
What would be right amount of ugly to depict you?

:))

Seems as though you're only quibbling over a matter of degree.
HughBe

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#44159
Nov 28, 2012
 
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No, I said Yankee.
Eric is no Yankee. He lives in Illonois, for G-ds sake.
Didnt you ever read Mark Twain in school?
You are having a problem calling yourself an American and that has been noted. Why not pack your bags and go?

You have also deceived yourself into thinking that you have outwitted me.

Your position is clear.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

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#44160
Nov 28, 2012
 
sorry if i am not, both your grandfather and grandmother any more. but where ever you are luke, i am your grandfather and everyone elses too. but this is not my decision to make here in TheStory of Creation again.

funny how G-D always sticks to physically giving THEIR OWN Scripture, meanwhile none of you mentally are here.

funny how G-D is always giving TheWhole Torah physically. and you all are and your grandmother, are all mentally showing off not here in IT thrice aaagain.
HughBe

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#44164
Nov 28, 2012
 
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Again, thank you for sharing your religious beliefs and your religious interpretations.
As far as "ours" I might quote the holy man Tonto- "What do you mean, WE, white man?"
Frijoles---"What do you mean, WE, white man?"

HughBe--- YOU used the word WE and I repeated and used it in the same way that it was originally used.

Now, your comment also tells me the difficulty that WE are having with the FACT that the Israelites of the Exodus were ALL Africans, "white man".
former res

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#44165
Nov 28, 2012
 
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Frijoles---We also know that today one is either a Christian or a Jew in religion.
HughBe--- says the god-men of Judaism. TRUTH says otherwise. Being Jewish is BIOLOGY it has NEVER been anything more. Being Indian etc. is BIOLOGY it has NEVER been anything more. Religious beliefs and covenants are another matter.
Why don't you use DNA testing to determine the religious beliefs and hence who is a Jew?
I don't know Huggybear....

Frijoles stated he thought you were "reasonably intelligent" and I would really like to believe that.

But when you write things like the above.

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The Jews (Hebrew: &#1497;&#1456;&#14 92;&#1493;&#1468;& #1491;&#1460;&#1497; &#1501; ISO 259-3 Yehudim Israeli pronunciation [jehu&#712;dim]), also known as the Jewish people, are a nation and an ethnoreligious group, originating in the Israelites or Hebrews of the Ancient Near East. The Jewish ethnicity, nationality, and religion are strongly interrelated, as Judaism is the traditional faith of the Jewish nation.[3}

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An ethnoreligious group (or ethno-religious group) is an ethnic group of people whose members are also unified by a common religious background. Ethnoreligious communities define their ethnic identity neither exclusively by ancestral heritage nor simply by religious affiliation, but often through a combination of both[citation needed](a long shared history; a cultural tradition of its own; either a common geographical origin, or descent from a small number of common ancestors; a common language, not necessarily peculiar to the group; a common literature peculiar to the group; a common religion different from that of neighbouring groups; being a minority or being an oppressed or a dominant group within a larger community).[citation needed]

Examples of ethnic groups defined by ancestral religions are the Jews, the Druze of the Levant, the Copts of Egypt, the Yazidi of northern Iraq, the Zoroastrians of Iran and India, and the Serer of Senegal, the Gambia and Mauritania.[1]
HughBe

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former res wrote:
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What would be right amount of ugly to depict you?
:))
Seems as though you're only quibbling over a matter of degree.
A greek god would be just about right.
Frijoles

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HughBe wrote:
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You are having a problem calling yourself an American and that has been noted. Why not pack your bags and go?
You have also deceived yourself into thinking that you have outwitted me.
Your position is clear.
I gather you still havent figured out what a Yankee is.
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#44169
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HughBe wrote:
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JEWS started Christianity.
JEWS are CENTRAL to Christianity starting with Moses and ALL the prophets and JESUS, the CHRIST and the apostles
You responded to NONE of my points or questions because you have no response other than to reapeat your same old xxxxxxxx.

First off. This isn't about history. It's about religious beliefs.

You may believe your relgion is a matter of fact, but guess what? Lots of folks do. Doesn't make it so.

This is why we call it faith - belief without proof.

We all agree that early Christians started out as Jews.

This proves nothing.

Do you have any other arguments or are we done here?
Frijoles

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Frijoles---"What do you mean, WE, white man?"
HughBe--- YOU used the word WE and I repeated and used it in the same way that it was originally used.
Now, your comment also tells me the difficulty that WE are having with the FACT that the Israelites of the Exodus were ALL Africans, "white man".
Thank you for your interesting interpretation of your scriptures. If I ever want to convert to your religion (something occupying theological space between Chrsitianity and the Church of the Holy Confusion), I will keep it in mind.
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HughBe wrote:
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A greek god would be just about right.
Greek God I can do too

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rabbee yehoshooah adam

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Nov 28, 2012
 
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
sorry if i am not, both your grandfather and grandmother any more. but where ever you are luke, i am your grandfather and everyone elses too. but this is not my decision to make here in TheStory of Creation again.
funny how G-D always sticks to physically giving THEIR OWN Scripture, meanwhile none of you mentally are here.
funny how G-D is always giving TheWhole Torah physically. and you all are and your grandmother, are all mentally showing off not here in IT thrice aaagain.
rabbee: and i wish all you clowns, would stop calling us or me jesus. so you can justify yourselves with the enemy of G-D, in some alleged as new testament. when G-D is being True, to TheOnly Story THEY/BOTH only promised to give to us.

here in the same story of creation, just again from G-D. when your disbelief of this, shall only result in more and more tradgity for all.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

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Nov 28, 2012
 
do you even realize, what you are all doing and have done? we all could have been in GanEden, had this world been telling the truth, by the time me and your grandmother arrived again.

this so that i would have had, the slightest chance to know what G-D was talking about. when G-D always comes to visit with TheHisSon adam, for the first time again here in TheTorah.

me and this world's grandmother sarah faye ann carney, are not the only ones who have screwed up any chance at GanEden. with it again, sooo screwed up, long before we even arrived again. and this is not the first time, G-D has given this whole story of creation to all of you and your grandmother sarah.

do you all realize how horribly pathetic, and inept this all is again? this is like total humilliation, with all of you following the subtle beasts again. with all of their fantacy stories, of never being actually here in TheTorah.

with not one person on earth, expecting this arrival of me and you mama from G-D again. even robbing me and your grandmother of the truth from G-D here in TheTorah. because of all your other, corrupt stinkin thinkin.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

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#44185
Nov 28, 2012
 
and those who have studied, and read the actual Torah Scroll. should feel even more embarassed, for not expecting me and their grandmother sarah. even after G-D had Adam, put to death on the tree of life for adam and his mate to be return aaagain.

and even more embarassing, now that we are here. to not believe their grandfather adam, actually telling you what G-D said about us all being here in TheTorah for the third Torot time again. and rejecting the truth of G-D, for the sake of some vain arrogance in denial.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

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#44189
Nov 28, 2012
 
me and this world's grandmother, may both be the hamosheeach some have been waiting for. but i cannot accept this now, without G-D actually coming to tell me this is true. and that this appointed sarah faye ann carney, is to be this world's grandmother appointed again.

and the both of us again, shall rule the whole world for the last day. when G-D takes, the well deserved day of rest again. just like all the other times, G-D gave this same story of creation countless times before this.

and i am sorry, if G-D gives adam with another mate. and none of you, ever get another chance to ever exist again. but don't any of you, tell me you do not deserve non-existance right now. for your blastphemy against, Ruach HaKodesh here in TheTorah you all deny.
Eric

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Sorry my previous comment was for Frijoles.
Now this is for you. Based on your INTENT are YOU an American or an Israeli or Israelite?
If you are an American, I am one too. I am also an Israelite. Both by intent.
HughBe

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I don't know Huggybear....
Frijoles stated he thought you were "reasonably intelligent" and I would really like to believe that.
But when you write things like the above.
Read on:
The Jews (Hebrew: &#1497;&#1456;&#14 92;&#1493;&#1468;& #1491;&#1460;&#1497; &#1501; ISO 259-3 Yehudim Israeli pronunciation [jehu&#712;dim]), also known as the Jewish people, are a nation and an ethnoreligious group, originating in the Israelites or Hebrews of the Ancient Near East. The Jewish ethnicity, nationality, and religion are strongly interrelated, as Judaism is the traditional faith of the Jewish nation.[3}
__________
An ethnoreligious group (or ethno-religious group) is an ethnic group of people whose members are also unified by a common religious background. Ethnoreligious communities define their ethnic identity neither exclusively by ancestral heritage nor simply by religious affiliation, but often through a combination of both[citation needed](a long shared history; a cultural tradition of its own; either a common geographical origin, or descent from a small number of common ancestors; a common language, not necessarily peculiar to the group; a common literature peculiar to the group; a common religion different from that of neighbouring groups; being a minority or being an oppressed or a dominant group within a larger community).[citation needed]
Examples of ethnic groups defined by ancestral religions are the Jews, the Druze of the Levant, the Copts of Egypt, the Yazidi of northern Iraq, the Zoroastrians of Iran and India, and the Serer of Senegal, the Gambia and Mauritania.[1]
Former---I don't know Huggybear....

HughBe--- You are CORRECT that you don't know and that is why you should take it from he who knows, me.

FORMER---The Jews (Hebrew: &#1497;&#1456;&#14 92;&#1493;&#1468;& #1491;&#1460;&#1497; &#1501; ISO 259-3 Yehudim Israeli pronunciation [jehu&#712;dim]), also known as the Jewish people, are a nation and an ethnoreligious group, originating in the Israelites or Hebrews of the Ancient Near East. The Jewish ethnicity, nationality, and religion are strongly interrelated, as Judaism is the traditional faith of the Jewish nation.[3}.....

HughBe--- Listen closely and well. Don't believe every BS that you read. This "ethnoreligious" is BS. The Israelites existed for HUNDREDS of years BEFORE they got "Judaism" and even after they got "Judaism" they did not follow it. Those are the FACTS. So cut the BS.

Have you every heard of the 10 tribes of Israel? If yes ask those MORONS who you have quoted what was there RELIGION?

Ask the overlords or god-men of Judaism the same question and ask them if the 10 TRIBES were Israel and what makes them Israel? This whole thing is a LIE and a means of mentally ENSLAVING the Jewish people.

Again, please take your time and STUDY the TRUTH. Being Jewish is BIOLOGY it has NEVER been anything more. Being Indian etc. is BIOLOGY it has NEVER been anything more.

Religious beliefs and covenants are another matter.

Why use DNA testing if not to determine RACE? Why the importance of saying that Israel descended from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob if it is not RACE?

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