Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43947 Nov 24, 2012
HughBe wrote:
take a rest, Eric.
What have you done to your main man i.e. frijoles?
bye
I was celebrating peace with the native Americans. Do you still have native-Americans on your island? Or did you kill them all and/or convert them to paganism?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#43949 Nov 24, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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Frank only makes sense in this context if you assume that what is transpiring is a conversation. More often than not, what is going on is a soliloquy.
Then dear Frijoles, YOU should desist from engaging in soliloquies
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#43950 Nov 24, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
I was celebrating peace with the native Americans. Do you still have native-Americans on your island? Or did you kill them all and/or convert them to paganism?
Frijoles--Do you still have native-Americans on your island? Or did you kill them all and/or convert them to paganism?

HughBe--- Yes I killed ALL of the "native-Americans" who were born in Jamaica.

Beyond my exploits tell me about the experience.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#43952 Nov 24, 2012
TWO observations.

1. There seems to be a shortage of the appropriate medication in a particular state.

2. Someone seems to have escaped from their place of safety or home.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#43953 Nov 24, 2012
Liam R wrote:
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Gee, you don't think that the fact that too many of the Crusaders would often let regional rivalries or petty greed interfeer with their great work had anything to do with it? Proving that they were following a false god with Jesus does nothing to prove that YOUR idol has anything other than clay feet...
I hope the "present day Crusaders" have not there with "True God" and they are expected to do better than the earlier ones.

Just wait and watch.

It took 100 odd years to beat back the Old Crusaders with false god, let us see how many years it takes to beat the ones with true god.

The true god followers however have their own history which does not go beyond 200 odd years and for most of that time, they were following false god.

Just wait and watch.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#43954 Nov 24, 2012
Lecture 7. The message of the Holy Prophet of Islam part-48

Man to worship only one God:

Having known his position in the universe is it becoming of man to serve lesser created beings and bow his head in reverence to others?

Men, in their ignorance, have often raised some of their own kings to the status of God, sometimes in the holy garb of incarnation and sometimes in the form of mighty tyrants. Be it a Pharaoh or a Nimrod, a bishop or a Pope, an ascetic or a saint, it is an insult to humanity to become a slave of their own kind.

Prophet Muhammad’s message strikes at the very root of this evil. In the words of holy Quran:

We shall never invoke any god other than Him,(Chp. 18: Vrs. 14)

Even the Prophet’s are not allowed to ask people for the kind of obedience that is reserved for Allah. A Prophet cannot say: Be ye my worshippers; Rather than God’s.

The greatest among the created beings that we can see are the Prophets, and then those that belong to the unseen world are His Angels. Even they do not have the right to be worshipped by man:

It is not (possible) for a man that Allah gives him the Book, the wisdom and the prophethood, then he starts saying to the people “Become my worshippers, aside from Allah” rather,(he would say),“Be men of the Lord; as you have been teaching the Book, and as you have been learning it.”(Chp.3:Vrs.79)

Nor is it (possible for him) that he bids you to hold the angels and the prophets as Lords.(Chp. 3:Vrs.80)

He is the One who is God to be worshipped in the sky, and God to be worshipped on the earth. And He is the Wise, the All-Knowing (Chp43:Vrs.84)

To Him alone belong the creation and the command.(Chp.7:Vrs.54)

The Decision belongs to none but Allah. He relates the Truth and He is the best of all judges.(Chp.6:Vrs.57)

We worship none but Allah, that we associate nothing with Him and that some of us do not take others as Lords instead of Allah.(Chp.3:Vrs.64)

The One to whom belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth, and who did neither have a son, nor is there any partner to him in the Kingdom, and who has created everything and designed it in a perfect measure.(Chp. 25:Vrs.2)

Keep in mind these verses of the Divine Message and it will be revealed to you that not only has it raised the position of humanity to the highest degree among the created beings, it has made the Oneness of God extremely clear and easy to understand. There is no “Caesar” beside Allah. Every thing belongs to Allah nothing to Caesar.

His power is absolute. His command extends to everything big or small in the Universe. All glory belongs to Him alone In short, Prophet Muhammad’s message from Allah has raised the status of humanity to a point where a human being can bow to no one but Allah, and they cannot humiliate themselves by seeking help from anyone except Allah. His power extends to everything, great or small. If He decides to take from someone,
there is no power that can give them anything, and if He decides to give, no one is there to stop Him.

My dear friends! Tell me solemnly and sincerely. Can man ever worship and adore anyone other than Allah while he has been chosen to be His deputy on earth? Be it the light of day or the darkness of night, the air or the water, the king or the enemy, the forests or the hills, the rivers or the deserts, can a true believer’s heart turn to anything but Allah? Absolutely nothing can overawe a believer in God.

Look at this exalted message of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) and think of the moral power of his spiritual teachings.

(Contd.)
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#43956 Nov 24, 2012
Chief Mumbasa Balls wrote:
Thats because you have a driveway and not subject to parking inforcement. Such a luxury makes me really question the intentions of every lunatic driver who goes out of their way to crash into everything.
rabbee: sorry but i, never had a moving driveway. that followed me around, every where i went. lessons to be learned, please don't feed the meters.
Laura

Patchogue, NY

#43959 Nov 25, 2012
IamJoseph wrote:
Israel is being attacked from every possible angle - and this is an evil scenario, embellished with a false saving grace. There should be one small place on the planet where jews can be free to pursue their own beliefs, and this must be respected by insecure christians and muslims, who have a problem respecting Jews as Jews, and Israel as Israel.
Pushing Jews into the sea, in the name of the NT or Quran, is the same as any other form of genicide. Have the jews not paid a great price to remain Jews? The truth is, America was founded by Jews [Columbus and all his mapsters were Jews], as a refuge for many - but also to save Christianity - from Europe. This is what Jews escaped from:
'BETTER TO DESTROY THEIR BODIES AND SAVE THEIR SOULS'- Isabela of Spain.
Thanks but no thanks. Please stop saving Jews.
But you didn't address the concern. It was that there is persecution of Jewish believers in Yeshua - quite a large number if you consider all the Messianic congregations in Israel and all over the world.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#43960 Nov 25, 2012
Laura wrote:
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But you didn't address the concern. It was that there is persecution of Jewish believers in Yeshua - quite a large number if you consider all the Messianic congregations in Israel and all over the world.
How can Jews be persecuted because they believe in another Jew, Jesus?

The religious ones of Judaism certainly believe in the teachings of their rabbis and if the truth be told the fabricated doctrines of the rabbis are esteeemed ABOVE the scriptures.

So then it appears to be a question of JEALOUSY of another Jew,Jesus,on the part of the rabbis.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#43961 Nov 25, 2012
Oh, they/rabbis want ALL of the attention and that much is clear.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#43962 Nov 25, 2012
Hairy Samoan Lineman wrote:
This moving driveway you speak off is irrelevant because you cant drive. Time to hang your keys up next to your skidmarked underware. There a new sherif in town and he said stop driving like maniacs who cant understand the complexity of a steering wheel.
rabbee: nah! i am going to be driving, this whole world. with all of you, in the back seat pretending to drive. because G-D is not going to trust, any of you with the keys. and i'll always be, a better driver than you. despite your better than thou back seat driving wishfull thinking.

i also know, it is better to steer around a dangerous situation. that it is to try and stop, fourty feet beyond trying to go through it. slamming on the brakes too late, is usually not the best option. when think fast, is.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#43964 Nov 25, 2012
HughBe wrote:
Oh, they/rabbis want ALL of the attention and that much is clear.
rabbee: nah! according to G-D, i have spent way too much time. trying to not get, any at all. with about 57 words in TheTorah, isn't exactly an attention getter. funny it seems as if i, have already said more than that. this world must be, doing a lousy job, of raising their grandparents again.
Voluntarist

United States

#43965 Nov 25, 2012
The United Nations Population Fund
(UNFPA) drew international headlines this
past week for claiming a new human right
to contraception.
Contraception as a human right is a
centerpiece of UNFPA’s annual state of
world population report “By Choice, Not By
Chance: Family Planning, Human Rights,
and Development”. Borrowing from the
language of natural law, the executive
summary declares that “today, family
planning is almost universally recognized as
an intrinsic right, affirmed and upheld by
many other human rights.”
Human rights experts point out that human
rights do not come about by the assertions
of UN agencies and that no such agreement
exists among Member States.
The report frequently refers to the
discredited idea of “unmet need” for
contraception. Critics consider “unmet
need”“advocacy construct” and say it does
not represent actual demand. A video
documenting UNFPA’s efforts to bring
contraception to Uganda, shows how hard
advocates must sell what is supposedly a
“need”. In the video health logistics
consultant Moses Muwonge claims “the
unmet need for contraceptives is 41% in
Uganda,” but then he points out they have
to use the mass media to sell their use.
Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43966 Nov 25, 2012
With all due respect sir, you yourself might be the best argument for contraception, without even needing the UN....
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#43967 Nov 25, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: nah! according to G-D, i have spent way too much time. trying to not get, any at all. with about 57 words in TheTorah, isn't exactly an attention getter. funny it seems as if i, have already said more than that. this world must be, doing a lousy job, of raising their grandparents again.
HughBe wrote:Oh, they/rabbis want ALL of the attention and that much is clear.

rabbee: nah! according to G-D, i have spent way too much time. trying to NOT get, any at all.

HughBe-- interesting
Eric

Lombard, IL

#43968 Nov 25, 2012
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Frijoles--Do you still have native-Americans on your island? Or did you kill them all and/or convert them to paganism?
HughBe--- Yes I killed ALL of the "native-Americans" who were born in Jamaica.
Beyond my exploits tell me about the experience.
That's a good question. Why did the Arawak and Taíno population leave Jamaica?

btw, Hugh. American does not only refer to the U.S.

Definition of AMERICAN

1: an American Indian of North America or South America

2: a native or inhabitant of North America or South America

The last time I checked, the Greater Antilles were part of North America.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#43970 Nov 25, 2012
HughBe---if the truth be told the fabricated doctrines of the rabbis are esteeemed ABOVE the scriptures.

Proof---Raba made the following exposition: What is the purport of the Scriptural text: And, furthermore my son, be admonished: Of making many books etc.? My son, be MORE careful in [the observance of] the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah, for in the laws of the Torah there are positive and negative precepts; but, as to the laws of the Scribes, whoever transgresses any of the enactments of the Scribes incurs the penalty of death. In case you should object: If they are of real value why were they not recorded [in the Torah]? Scripture stated:‘Of making many books there is no end’

http://jewishroots.net/library/anti_missionar...
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#43971 Nov 25, 2012
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
That's a good question. Why did the Arawak and Taíno population leave Jamaica?
btw, Hugh. American does not only refer to the U.S.
Definition of AMERICAN
1: an American Indian of North America or South America
2: a native or inhabitant of North America or South America
The last time I checked, the Greater Antilles were part of North America.
Eric---That's a good question. Why did the Arawak and Taíno population leave Jamaica?

HughBe--- They decided to go to the afterlife because of the good treatment they were getting.

Eric---btw, Hugh. American does not only refer to the U.S.
Definition of AMERICAN
1: an American Indian of North America or South America
2: a native or inhabitant of North America or South America
The last time I checked, the Greater Antilles were part of North America

HughBe--- very good but Native-Americans are those born in America and NOT Jamaica. Recall his question "Do you still have native-Americans on your island?"
Clayton Winton

Spokane, WA

#43972 Nov 25, 2012
The history of religion's evolution has shown, more often than not, a group that attacks it's own, blaming another, for attention, for sympathy, for money, for profit.

Law Enforcerment is not stupid. Each sect has it's own "radical elements."

Second on the "suspect list" are those who hate Israel, wish to divide it into ever-increasing numbers of squabbling tribes.

Interpretation of 'scripture' is root; as religion means different things to different people at different times within their lives and environments.

Puns and homonyms are difficult to translate, which ruins rich metaphors. Language evolves, too, meanings of words evolve.

Check this emendation of the Kethuvim, C2-3.1:

-- " ...Then Obama began to build the House of Paper in opposing whims on Mount Deficit, where baal-systems appeared to his mother, at the place which she designated, at the threshing floor of HigherEd's Slavers. He began to build on the 2nd day of the 2nd month of the 4th year of his reign. These are the dimensions Obama established for building the House of Paper, it's length in 'cubits' by the former measuer, was 60 generations, and it's breadth was 20 Trillion 'talents.'"

Should I be killed for it?

Kind Regards, always,
Clayton Winton
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#43973 Nov 25, 2012
"The Talmud OUTSTRIPS even the Bible in influence and importance. Explicating and building upon the Torah's laws, stories, and ideas, the Talmud also lay the groundwork for new religious sensibilities that stressed scholarship and were attuned to the needs of the Jews in the Diaspora."

http://www.myjewishlearning.com/texts/Rabbini...

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