Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

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So much for trying to be cute.

what was it, then?

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

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What the hxll??!!
I thought SC was the crazy state.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-... -
Not to mention, SC's Senator's latest comments to the president:
Graham responded to Obama’s comments by e-mail just as the press conference concluded.“Mr. President, don’t think for one minute I don’t hold you ultimately responsible for Benghazi,” Graham said in a statement.“I think you failed as Commander in Chief before, during, and after the attack.”

I would be remiss if I didnt note that one of our posters comes from Georgia.

Best part of that article, they name the fricking CHAMBER of COMMERCE as one of the conspirators...lololol

[Frijoles]

Voluntarist wrote:

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Yes because Delphi technique doesn't exist
world government doesn't exist
Agenda 21 isn't an agenda
The metro plan doesn't exist
got it, go back to sleep.

I am far from asleep mu friend,
I use many of the principles from Agenda 21 in my professional life. As does everyone else in my profession, as the principles have been around for at least 45 years. Which, by the way, is a longer time than Agenda 21. Which, by the way, prooves that the Agenda21 conspiracy is a lot of hogwash.

As far as Delphi, when I think of Greek, I think of Hughbe. I dont understand why.

[Frijoles]

Voluntarist wrote:

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30 million without doesn't equal 30 million free loaders.
I don't have insurance and I don't free load, Doctors are a waste ill give you a real example.
Patient complains that food is getting stuck in esophagus.
Doctor orders camera down throat, results, nothing there.
patient still complaining
Dr takes x-rays, results, nothing wrong
patient still complaining, 6 months now
Dr orders barium test
results, normal.
Now 8 months later doctor states that there is nothing he can do, must be stomach gases causing air bubble in esophagus, take over the table anti-acid drug for the rest of your life.
True story want to know the fix?
1 bottle of Bragg apple cider vinegar $6.99
1. teaspoon twice daily.
results, immediate
no further problems reported.
How much money was wasted?

I tried soaking my feet everynight in apple cider vinegar for about six months to get rid of toe nail fungus.

Guess what?

It didnt work!(ended up on real drugs - they worked)

It was a nice thought though. I would of rather it did work for the effort it caused me.

[HughBe]

former res wrote:

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"Someone puts himself last,
So that you can come first."
La Cage Aux Folles

Former---"Someone puts himself last,So that you can come first."
La Cage Aux Folles

HughBe--- "Someone puts herself last,So that I can come first."
Master HughBe

[Voluntarist]

former res wrote:

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So you're saying doctors can't help with every single problem?
Ok - fair enough.
I think they would agree.
In family medicine, these patients are known as "The Worried Well."
Also, negative test results don't prove the doc is ineffective.
The doc has an obilgation to "rule out" potentially serious conditions.
If he had missed esophageal cancer, I imagine you'd also have a problem with that.

If you are interested in saving the patient money after ruling out life threatening conditions, why not?

The real problem is that doctors aren't trained in the natural area and usually poo poo it.

[Frijoles]

Voluntarist wrote:

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If you are interested in saving the patient money after ruling out life threatening conditions, why not?
The real problem is that doctors aren't trained in the natural area and usually poo poo it.

Maybe that was true 10-15 years ago, but now the modalities are getting blended together. This new generation is different - they offer alternative medicine in many med schools and most big hospitals offer it in some form. The only people who poo poo it are the hard core and the older generation.

[Voluntarist]

Frijoles wrote:

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I tried soaking my feet everynight in apple cider vinegar for about six months to get rid of toe nail fungus.
Guess what?
It didnt work!(ended up on real drugs - they worked)
It was a nice thought though. I would of rather it did work for the effort it caused me.

Did you use organic apple cider vinegar?

Point of the matter is that you are able to try the natural route first, but an MD won't help you.

[Frijoles]

Voluntarist wrote:

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If you are interested in saving the patient money after ruling out life threatening conditions, why not?
The real problem is that doctors aren't trained in the natural area and usually poo poo it.

....and then there are the modalities like osteopathy (D.O.s) which were mainstream before they faded in the last century, to be rescued by Chiropractors, and now have been revived back in the mainstream medicine to some extent

[Frijoles]

Voluntarist wrote:

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If you are interested in saving the patient money after ruling out life threatening conditions, why not?
The real problem is that doctors aren't trained in the natural area and usually poo poo it.

I bet you could benefit from a good witch doctor (shaman)

I envision soul retrieval as being especially helpful to your future

[HughBe]

Frijoles wrote:

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I tried soaking my feet everynight in apple cider vinegar for about six months to get rid of toe nail fungus.
Guess what?
It didnt work!(ended up on real drugs - they worked)
It was a nice thought though. I would of rather it did work for the effort it caused me.

Perhaps the quality of vinegar was an issue and MORE importantly the QUANTITY. How much vinegar did you add to the soak and how much water was used? Dilution issue.

[Frijoles]

Voluntarist wrote:

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Did you use organic apple cider vinegar?
Point of the matter is that you are able to try the natural route first, but an MD won't help you.

I dont remember. I dont see how that would make a difference. If it was to work, it would be because of the acidity which shouldnt vary.

Do you know what makes apple cider vinegar organic? Lack of fungacides to the apple trees. I would think residual fungacides would help you get rid of a fungus.

[Frijoles]

HughBe wrote:

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Perhaps the quality of vinegar was an issue and MORE importantly the QUANTITY. How much vinegar did you add to the soak and how much water was used? Dilution issue.

Vinegar is cheap. Didnt dilute it. "Quality" (as you refer to it) doesnt matter as the active ingrediant whould be the acidity. There is no difference between organic and nonorganic in acidity.

[Frijoles]

as I suspected

http://www.livestrong.com/article/110938-appl...

Why Apple Cider Vinegar Works

When a toenail fungus infection occurs, the pH of the surrounding skin and nail becomes more basic or alkaline in nature. The fungus thrives in an alkaline environment. If the pH of the area turns from basic to more acidic, the fungus cannot survive. This is where the apple cider vinegar becomes useful. The vinegar is acidic but still mild enough to not damage the surrounding skin and nail.

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Frijoles note: that is all and good, but unless the vinegar can penetrate the nail bed - you are wasting your time, sadly. As I did.

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

HughBe wrote:

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In other words you want me to be a "cut and heal" like you?
This is my promise to you on the matter, I will come out meaning convert when I am reincarnated 1000 times.
This is my first appearance.

rabbee: tell the truth, this is you and your grandmothers third appearance. you just don't, remember the first two. when you are reborn as the exact same baby again, you have no memories to beguin with.

[Frijoles]

I see I have a fan.

cool!

[former res]

Frijoles wrote:

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what was it, then?

No, you were right.

I meant me.

[former res]

HughBe wrote:

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Former---"Someone puts himself last,So that you can come first."
La Cage Aux Folles
HughBe--- "Someone puts herself last,So that I can come first."
Master HughBe

More like Master Baiter.

[former res]

Voluntarist wrote:

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If you are interested in saving the patient money after ruling out life threatening conditions, why not?
The real problem is that doctors aren't trained in the natural area and usually poo poo it.

I'm not sure what you're saying this doctor did wrong.

I knew someone with a similar issue.

They ended up with speech therapy which also covers swalling issues.

(For your poo poo problems, you'll need a good GI man - gastroenterologist.)

[former res]

Frijoles wrote:

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I tried soaking my feet everynight in apple cider vinegar for about six months to get rid of toe nail fungus.
Guess what?
It didnt work!(ended up on real drugs - they worked)
It was a nice thought though. I would of rather it did work for the effort it caused me.

Probably Lamisil or Sporanox. With liver function tests first.

I had the latter years ago for a stubborn skin infection on my beard area. Cleared it right up after many months of OTC cream, ointments etc.(Actaully some prescribed by my family doc)

Finally saw an actual dermatologist.