Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

There are 20 comments on the Newsday story from Jun 21, 2008, titled Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel. In it, Newsday reports that:

Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#43440 Nov 14, 2012
JOEL PASTAKIA wrote:
THE NEXT STAGE IN THE EVOLUTION OF CONSCIOUSNESS-ENERGY:
After man, the mental being, who?
The supramental being???
rabbee: i do not believe, that any of you monkeys have ever evolved for the third time. a lie is not proof, of evolution. a lie is only proof, of logicly deranged mental dexteriority.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#43441 Nov 14, 2012
G-D is giving, TheWhole Torah Accounting aaagain. and all of you so far, are all saying you want G-D to do it aaa,again. because you don't believe, G-D is capable of giving TheTorah ever.

but with or without all of you, and your grandmother of all. G-D is just going, to have to give TheWhole Torah, in TheHappening again. because you are all idolitors, of other g-ds. so just remember in an anthology, all your bets are off.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#43442 Nov 14, 2012
former res wrote:
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Yeah...good points.
To hear him tell it, every year they come around with guns drawn to collect taxes.
rabbee: yeah! be one with, the subtle beast. aka: baal hamolech G-D, also hates... even more than, hasatan... such! a deal.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#43443 Nov 14, 2012
mentally only, allegdly outperforming G-D or His Son adam. is worth what, to all of you? mentally only not here, in ThePhysical Torah actually in TheHappenig. with lots of con-artists, still out there.
Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43444 Nov 14, 2012
former res wrote:
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Yeah...good points.
To hear him tell it, every year they come around with guns drawn to collect taxes.
Well, thats how he "thinks" it happens. To believe him at face value, he wouldnt exactly know because he professes not to pay taxes.
Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43445 Nov 14, 2012
Moving on,

does anyone here find it ODD that the top executive of the possibly BEST equipped spy agency of the ENTIRE world, with all his access to spook methods, would think that by merely leaving his affair in "draft" form on a public server under another name that this would be secure????

I am more than happy to see him gone, just on the basis of that.
Voluntarist

United States

#43446 Nov 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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Well, thats how he "thinks" it happens. To believe him at face value, he wouldnt exactly know because he professes not to pay taxes.
That's exactly how it happens.
Ask 100 people why they pay taxes and the majority will tell you they do because they don't want to go to jail.
Voluntarist

United States

#43447 Nov 14, 2012
former res wrote:
ATF
Would you be willing to pay 4 cents more for a pizza to help ensure that the guy delivering it isn't coughing TB germs all over it?
Sounds like a good deal to me.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/calebmelby/2012/1...
That would be a bad argument because the cost is a variable and I were to guess I would say that the pizza Guy does a high volume business vs. the small Guy that might have to tack on $2 per pie.
Canada has shitty healthcare if you like that stuff go move there.

I am glad that I got out of the specialty retail business because I wouldn't want to deal wit the brown shirts.
Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43448 Nov 14, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
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That's exactly how it happens.
Ask 100 people why they pay taxes and the majority will tell you they do because they don't want to go to jail.
I agree. with a caveat. But apparently you are immune to this.

Caveat - threat of prison isnt necesarrily the same as threat of violence. I have driven by Danbury Fed prison - it doesnt exactly strike me as the type of place you worry about what happens if you drop the soap (to the chagrin of Hughbe).
Voluntarist

United States

#43449 Nov 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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Whats wrong with chickens?
My wife keeps threatening to get some
Some of the more enlightened towns have ordinances against roosters, not chickens.
Oh I didn't know that you were marred, what's his name?
Voluntarist

United States

#43450 Nov 14, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
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What you are saying is that you are on a team with a bunch of people who pay for services to a violent structure known as government and that you pay protection money to this racket and receive a uneven portion of services for your money.
And you are angry that there are people that are more financially successful than you so you want the racket to force by way of threat of violence those people to give up even more of their property for what you perceive as "the better good". Correct?
And how is that any different than a commune?
Never got an answer to this question.
Voluntarist

United States

#43451 Nov 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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I agree. with a caveat. But apparently you are immune to this.
Caveat - threat of prison isnt necesarrily the same as threat of violence. I have driven by Danbury Fed prison - it doesnt exactly strike me as the type of place you worry about what happens if you drop the soap (to the chagrin of Hughbe).
If you got indicted by a federal grand jury you would crap your depends.
Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43452 Nov 14, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
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Oh I didn't know that you were marred, what's his name?
Leroy.
Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43453 Nov 14, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
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If you got indicted by a federal grand jury you would crap your depends.
And you know this because?
Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43454 Nov 14, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
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That would be a bad argument because the cost is a variable and I were to guess I would say that the pizza Guy does a high volume business vs. the small Guy that might have to tack on $2 per pie.
Canada has shitty healthcare if you like that stuff go move there.
I am glad that I got out of the specialty retail business because I wouldn't want to deal wit the brown shirts.
What did you sell?
Voluntarist

United States

#43455 Nov 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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What did you sell?
Depends
Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43456 Nov 14, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
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Depends
I get mine used on Ebay - lots cheaper. No wonder you went out of business.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#43457 Nov 14, 2012
former res wrote:
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Fascinating.
Does this kind of talk work on chicks?(You know .... girls.)
My guess is that it works on "chicks".

Ask Frijoles and Eric for confirmation.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#43459 Nov 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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Leroy.
Voluntarist--Oh I didn't know that you were marred, what's his name?

Frijoles--Leroy.

HughBe--- Is he tall dark and handsome?
Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43460 Nov 14, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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Voluntarist--Oh I didn't know that you were marred, what's his name?
Frijoles--Leroy.
HughBe--- Is he tall dark and handsome?
Sorry, we dont swap.

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