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JOEL PASTAKIA

Mumbai, India

#43339 Nov 13, 2012
NOTHING cannot be defined since we always think in terms of something.
JOEL PASTAKIA

Mumbai, India

#43340 Nov 13, 2012
TABULA RASA is pure fiction.
JOEL PASTAKIA

Mumbai, India

#43341 Nov 13, 2012
IMPERISHABLE EXISTENCE:

1) MATTER being a compound has parts and can be divided into smaller and smaller particles until one arrives at its source which is energy.

2) Try subjecting energy to fission and it is seen that this cannot be done.

3) Similarly, thoughts can resolved into the underlying idea and the idea into the vibration of mind stuff that arises as waves in being and matter.

4) Mind can be stilled and sublimated or dissolved into awareness that cannot be further divided or fissioned.

5) So, we conclude that consciousness and energy that form a unified field cannot be further divided into something more fundamental except for the fact that there exist finer and still subtler states of consciousness and energy until the state of pure consciousness with its innate pure energy component is reached. This is the absolute consciousness which is the origin of existence or of everything in existence.

6) So, pure consciousness with its inherent pure energy content is self-existent and eternal and the source of the subtle and gross ranges of the universe.

Yeah!!!
JOEL PASTAKIA

Mumbai, India

#43342 Nov 13, 2012
AS CONSCIOUSNESS-ENERGY cannot be further fissioned or divided by any means, thus it stands to reason (and is a common yogic experience) that the unified field of consciousness-energy is the whole and the absolute source of the universes though its manifestation comprises numerous subtle and gross states ending in matter.
JOEL PASTAKIA

Mumbai, India

#43343 Nov 13, 2012
ASPECTS OF THE REALITY:

The surface nature of the universe is mutable and relativistic, the subliminal nature of the universe is plastic and holonic and the transcendental nature of the universe is monistic and absolute.
JOEL PASTAKIA

Mumbai, India

#43345 Nov 13, 2012
THE NATURE OF THE ULTIMATE REALITY:

On the highest level of Consciousness with its innate Energy component -

there is no God and no Universe,

no You and no I,

no Angel and no Devil,

no Name and no Namelessness,

no Form and no Formlessness,

no Attributes and no Non-Attributes,

no Existence and no Non-Existence,

no Mutability and no Non-Mutability and

no Heaven and no Hell.

There exists only Pure Consciousness with its dormant Pure Energy component in that absolute poise.
former res

Newtown Square, PA

#43346 Nov 13, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
It does appear that with the Jamaican, the monk, and Mr Apu that the lunatics have taken over the asylum for now.
Indeed.

Skimming the overnight exchanges has been....ah....interesting?

How did the song go?

"The freaks come out at night!"

JOEL PASTAKIA

Mumbai, India

#43347 Nov 13, 2012
MECHANISM OF BEING & NATURE:

1) Consciousness = Awareness.

2) Awareness is Perception.

3) Perception leads to Understanding.

4) Understanding leads to Dynamic Action.

5) Dynamism involves Energy of Conciousness.
JOEL PASTAKIA

Mumbai, India

#43348 Nov 13, 2012
FAITH BRINGS IN WORRIES:

Faith is always blind since one merely believes in something without proof and without any assurance that the thing believed in will yield the expected result or work out the way one desires it to. This gives rise to wishful thinking, bigotry, irrationality, delusion, fatalism and frustration. So, faith is a big burden and brings into the psyche of the believer its own load of worries.

STOP BELIEVING.
JOEL PASTAKIA

Mumbai, India

#43349 Nov 13, 2012
SUGGESTION: BEING & BECOMING

Never believe in anything blindly. Inquire thoroughly into the logic of the process and if it seems probable and realistic then make every effort to realize and materialize it in the now!
JOEL PASTAKIA

Mumbai, India

#43350 Nov 13, 2012
CONCLUSION:

IF by faith is meant belief in God or Prophet then remember that neither Allah nor Vishnu nor YHVH nor Muhammad nor Jesus nor Buddha nor Ahura Mazda are wise or powerful enough to change us or the world into the stuff of perfection since the higher and the highest ranges of perfection are way beyond these lowly entities.
JOEL PASTAKIA

Mumbai, India

#43351 Nov 13, 2012
THE SEARCH CONTINUES....

EVIDENTLY, we've still not found the perfect God or the perfect Prophet. The various versions of God and the numerous Prophets of the different religions are so many minor entities.
JOEL PASTAKIA

Mumbai, India

#43352 Nov 13, 2012
The first word is NOT the last word! Yeah!
Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43353 Nov 13, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Indeed.
Skimming the overnight exchanges has been....ah....interesting?
How did the song go?
"The freaks come out at night!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =CRzSc8Mkr8cXX
Ah...old school rap. Totally cool. You are more hip than I. I was thinking more along the lines of http://www.youtube.com/watch...

(and btw ignoring Apu directly is probably the most hygienic path...)

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#43354 Nov 13, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
I did, move
So, In a volunteerist society, whenever your neighbor does something that adversely affects your quality of life and won't listen to reason, the only recourse you have other than to grin and bear it is to move? And probably at a significant property value loss to boot since no one wants to move next to a toxic waste dump. Sounds pretty feeble to me. I don't think you thought this through all the way.
SamBee

Clermont, FL

#43355 Nov 13, 2012
Liam R wrote:
<quoted text>
That was exactly my point. If it was alive in the womb, then it would have been killed upon being expelled. Since Exodus makes it clear that it is not killed, then it could not have been alive in the womb. Well, "alive" in the sense that it was not yet a living person. Obviously, the cells were living and multiplying...
I'll have to disagree with you,but todah for replying.
Frijoles

Farmington, CT

#43356 Nov 13, 2012
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
So, In a volunteerist society, whenever your neighbor does something that adversely affects your quality of life and won't listen to reason, the only recourse you have other than to grin and bear it is to move? And probably at a significant property value loss to boot since no one wants to move next to a toxic waste dump. Sounds pretty feeble to me. I don't think you thought this through all the way.
Volunteerist needs to change his name to Idealist, because these are all ideas and nothing more. No facts on the ground. No societies to point towrds. That I know of, at least.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#43357 Nov 13, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain
unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the
pursuit of Happiness.— That to secure these rights,
Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just
powers from the consent of the governed…”
This of course is repeated in “state” constitutions such as
Arizona:“governments … are established to protect and maintain
individual rights.” Arizona constitution article II § 2 . This is why
standing and jurisdiction must always involve a plaintiff’s rights.
rabbee: you still, miss the point. the declaration of independance, is the letter to england. and does not stipulate, any specific rights or laws. of their intent to seperate and cut ties, with the brittish empire. it does not designate, any of the duties of the three branches of the yet to be government.

and now you have a government that is doing, precisely what the brittish empire was doing. taxing the hell out of us, and running roughshod over our ""unalienable" " rights for the sake of the few. the constitution is the document, of the majority rule, not minority rule.
former res

Newtown Square, PA

#43358 Nov 13, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah...old school rap. Totally cool. You are more hip than I. I was thinking more along the lines of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =0thH3qnHTbIXX
(and btw ignoring Apu directly is probably the most hygienic path...)
Good one!

If we got all these bloggers/posters together, it might look a lot like the bar scene in Star Wars (or Dirty Franks in Phila or Bacteria Bills in Banksville NY where we used to go in HS days when drinking age was still 18).
former res

Newtown Square, PA

#43359 Nov 13, 2012
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
So, In a volunteerist society, whenever your neighbor does something that adversely affects your quality of life and won't listen to reason, the only recourse you have other than to grin and bear it is to move? And probably at a significant property value loss to boot since no one wants to move next to a toxic waste dump. Sounds pretty feeble to me. I don't think you thought this through all the way.
I've had similar conversations with a Libertarian relative.

As in, what does he suggest of my neighbor decides to install several chicken coops next door.

He said the other neighbors should get together and purchase the guy's house.

These folks are not unlike religious nuts. Living in lala land.

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