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former res

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That would be "denial".
Heck, if I was him I would just be happy I managed to raise a record amount of money. That is an accomplishment in itself - even if it didnt do anything. Enough to retire on and have the last laugh.
Re: Fox statisticians- I have seen journalistic references to Nate Silver as being a Republican - so its not like the Democrats always have a monopoly on science or higher education. Karl should know better. But then again, if he did he wouldnt be Karl, would he?
Interesting article about Nate.

The author stands corrected toward the end of the piece.

http://www.boston.com/sports/blogs/statsdrive...
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<quoted text>There's always a bright side, huh.
"Many Pakistanis fear that President Barack Obama’s re-election will mean a surge in American drone strikes. For those producing and selling U.S. flags to burn at protests, however, his victory could be provide encouraging news, AFP reported.
Demonstrations against U.S. missile strikes targeting suspected Al-Qaeda and Taliban terrorists are common in Pakistan, and no protest is complete without America’s beloved Stars and Stripes being sent up in flames.
Nadeem Shah, the owner of a flag business in Rawalpindi, the twin city of the capital Islamabad, said he expected more drone strikes -- and more protests.
“Of course Obama has become stronger now and he will push his policies harder and there will be more drone strikes because he himself is stronger now,” Shah told AFP.
“When the drone strikes increase the protests against these strikes will also increase in Pakistan and it can have an impact on the flags and poster business,” he added. "
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.a...
Who cares if they burn our flag?

We should worry about becoming energy independent which will begin with not letting ExxonMobile drive our energy policies.
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Todays NY TImes:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/08/us/politics...
"...And as calls came in on Wednesday from some of the donors who had poured more than $300 million into the pair of big-spending outside groups founded in part by Karl Rove — perhaps the leading political entrepreneur of the super PAC era — he offered them a grim upside: without us, the race would not have been as close as it was..."
Not sure if that should be viewed as chilling, or as a pathetic excuse.
Later in that article:
“Paying bills,” Mr. Adelson said on Tuesday night when asked by a Norwegian reporter how he thought his donations had been spent.“That’s how you spend money. Either that or become a Jewish husband — you spend a lot of money.”
Nice use of stereotypes, jerk.
I don't even know what or how he means "Jewish husband."

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How about this?

Donald Trump posted a message on Twitter saying:“Congrats to @KarlRove on blowing $400 million this cycle. Every race @CrossroadsGPS ran ads in, the Republicans lost. What a waste of money.”

Jonathan Collegio, a Crossroads spokesman, declined to comment for this article. Rove couldn’t be reached.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-11-07/r...

The rats are at each others' throats!!
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My prediction is that the reelection will have nothing to do with this - there was no major opposition from America against these strikes and they will continue at whatever rate the pres/military wants at the moment.
On the other hand, I think chances are good that we will escalate our involvement in Syria or Iran, as these escalations were being inhibited by internal political sensibilities that no longer constrain, now that Obama is freed to do what he wants (if he wants).
as he told Putin "more freedom after the election"
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former res wrote:
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Interesting article about Nate.
The author stands corrected toward the end of the piece.
http://www.boston.com/sports/blogs/statsdrive...
It is interesting. It misses the important point though.

Nate didnt just call the states, he called the probability of the data being useful. That is how the bayesian models differ from the other models such as frequency models. Basically, he modeled certainty. That is an art and a math excercise.

Furthermore, ultimately, looking past certainties, what really mattered to the rest of us was the simple yes or no. I.E. Would Obama (or Romney Win)? To get there he had to aggregate and weight all the 50 states. Ultimately he called it more certain for Obama, and Obama did win. Thats all.

Therefore, unless you are prepared to really examine the accuracy of his certainties by testing his assumptions, as far as most people are concerned, Nate won.
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I don't even know what or how he means "Jewish husband."
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Keeping the Jappy wife happy buy buying her stuff.

He could of just said he was being a husband.

I wonder if there are Jewish Norweigan Princesses?(and if so, are they all blonde?)
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as he told Putin "more freedom after the election"
I see that Obama got a high percentage of the minority groups i.e.

1. gays
2. single women
3. blacks
4. educated young whites
5. hispanics

It is my understanding that you would fall into one of these groups plus the ONLY group that Mitty the shifter got a high percentage of support from.

So, who did you vote for given that you fall into two opposing groups?
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Nov 8, 2012
 
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I see that Obama got a high percentage of the minority groups i.e.
1. gays
2. single women
3. blacks
4. educated young whites
5. hispanics
It is my understanding that you would fall into one of these groups plus the ONLY group that Mitty the shifter got a high percentage of support from.
So, who did you vote for given that you fall into two opposing groups?
Also,
6. middle class (or non wealthy)
7. Jews
8. women (not only single)
9. those with graduate education
10. urban dwellers

The Republicans represented a dwindling demographic, by all accounts
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Nov 8, 2012
 
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Also,
6. middle class (or non wealthy)
7. Jews
8. women (not only single)
9. those with graduate education
10. urban dwellers
The Republicans represented a dwindling demographic, by all accounts
Since coming back I have observed that you are not too bad and this is based solely on our exchanges.

My post was intended to tease Former or as I call him always. He certainly is not a young white and so the group that he would fall in is clear. It was really meant to tese him in fun.

Thanks for the information.
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Nov 8, 2012
 
Jamaican Election Reform

Prime Minister Bruce Golding acknowledged at a Conference for the Association for Caribbean Electoral Organizations that there were a number of areas of concern in his countries election process including political financing for campaigns, the accountability of the electoral process and the impact positive or negative of the media on elections. The Prime Minister said that the government is looking at a number of activities that could help this process of reform. These things were acknowledged in front of the CEO of the International Foundation for Electoral Systems, the Assistant Secretary General of the Organization of American States and the Electoral Office of Jamaica
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Keeping the Jappy wife happy buy buying her stuff.
He could of just said he was being a husband.
I wonder if there are Jewish Norweigan Princesses?(and if so, are they all blonde?)
Ok - i get it.

Yeah I doubt that's exclusive to any one group.

Though my friend Kleinberg specifically chose a nonJewish girl to marry. He married an Irish girl. I foget how he exactly articulated his reasoning. something about them being demanding as i recall.

I myself never had a "type" or nontype.
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Since coming back I have observed that you are not too bad and this is based solely on our exchanges.
My post was intended to tease Former or as I call him always. He certainly is not a young white and so the group that he would fall in is clear. It was really meant to tese him in fun.
Thanks for the information.
Thank you my naked and shiny friend.

I hold a graduate degree and am therefore too smart to have believed Mitt's bullshxt.

Hope you are well.

Do you continue to admire you own body parts?
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Ok - i get it.
Yeah I doubt that's exclusive to any one group.
Though my friend Kleinberg specifically chose a nonJewish girl to marry. He married an Irish girl. I foget how he exactly articulated his reasoning. something about them being demanding as i recall.
I myself never had a "type" or nontype.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Adelson#...
Sheldon Adelson was born in Boston to a Jewish family. His Lithuanian-born father was a taxi driver and an ad salesman. From the 1970s Adelson lived in Massachusetts with his wife, Sandra, and their three adopted children, Mitchell, Gary and Shelley. They divorced in 1988. Mitchell died of a drug overdose in 2005.[48]

Adelson met his current wife Miriam Ochsorn on a blind date the following year and married in 1991. Miriam is an Israeli physician specializing in drug abuse treatment.[48][49]

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My prediction is that the reelection will have nothing to do with this - there was no major opposition from America against these strikes and they will continue at whatever rate the pres/military wants at the moment.
On the other hand, I think chances are good that we will escalate our involvement in Syria or Iran, as these escalations were being inhibited by internal political sensibilities that no longer constrain, now that Obama is freed to do what he wants (if he wants).
That's right. No president is going to stop drone attacks.

As for Syria, we're already there. Don't think I've forgotten about Benghazi...I'm just letting the victory celebration abate some.

Puzzle pieces:
.Consulate in port of Benghazi, under-defended and in the most hostile area of Libya.
.Security outsourced to the Libyan 17th of February militia
.CIA annex (supposed to be under the radar)
.Tens of thousands SAM missiles and other weapons missing in Libya.
.Various Al-? militias consolidated around Benghazi
.Turkey pissed with Syria
.Evening meeting with Turkish consul on 9/11.
.Hillary or Biden,(I don't remember which one I saw saying it) when pressed about Syria, says "of course we're doing something. We're arming the rebels"
.'rebels' a mix of Syrian citizens and other Al-? groups
."don't shoot. Mursi sent us"
.youtube red herring
.New York Times 10/24/12 "Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar al-Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups that the West wants to bolster."
. open - who did or didn't order support while the attack was going on? If there were orders to provide support, who didn't follow orders? If no support was ordered from the top, why not?

Just more of the same - regardless of who is president..Iran-Contra, FastnFurious, and now this. We'll end up with boots on the ground in Syria, getting slammed by the very weapons that we put there.
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<quoted text>That's right. No president is going to stop drone attacks.
Not true.

Ron Paul probably would stop them. And so would Ralph Nader (Isnt he like, permanently on the ballot??)

And I bet neither Hermain Cain nor Michelle Bachman nor Rick Perry could find Pakistan (or Yemen) on the map.(Sarah Palin could see it from her porch)

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The Republicans represented a dwindling demographic, by all accounts
Yea, the Confederacy.
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Not true.
Ron Paul probably would stop them. And so would Ralph Nader (Isnt he like, permanently on the ballot??)
And I bet neither Hermain Cain nor Michelle Bachman nor Rick Perry could find Pakistan (or Yemen) on the map.(Sarah Palin could see it from her porch)
somebody said obama is the only nobel prize winner with a kill list

i'm ok with that
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former res wrote:
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Thank you my naked and shiny friend.
I hold a graduate degree and am therefore too smart to have believed Mitt's bullshxt.
Hope you are well.
Do you continue to admire you own body parts?
Former--Thank you my naked and shiny friend.

HughBe--- Correction, I'm half-naked right now and not naked. I have on ONLY a shirt. I had a health challenge for a couple of days but i'm now overcoming it and it explains my dress.

Correct, I'm shiny to the point of splitting and so my lips are separated and two other critical areas have orifices.

Former--I hold a graduate degree and am therefore too smart to have believed Mitt's bullshxt.

HughBe--- I see and so you were not impressed with his boast about being the CEO of the Olympic Games in the US and its success. My question to Mitty is where on earth has the games being anything but a financial success?

Former--Hope you are well.

HughBe--- many challenges but I'm overcoming them all.

Former---Do you continue to admire you own body parts?

HughBe--- Naturally, love of beauty and common sense would not allow otherwise. It is also called good taste.

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Not true.
Ron Paul probably would stop them. And so would Ralph Nader (Isnt he like, permanently on the ballot??)
And I bet neither Hermain Cain nor Michelle Bachman nor Rick Perry could find Pakistan (or Yemen) on the map.(Sarah Palin could see it from her porch)
Diversion. The chances of any of those you listed becoming president is inversely proportional to the chances that we will end up in Syria - not proxy, but up close and personal.
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<quoted text>Diversion. The chances of any of those you listed becoming president is inversely proportional to the chances that we will end up in Syria - not proxy, but up close and personal.
Didnt know I was in a structured conversation. Sorry.

On a related topic, Mitt conceded Florida today. Does that even have legal meaning?

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