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End Of America

United States

#42957 Nov 7, 2012
During a campaign event in New Hampshire, Barack Obama
told an audience of his supporters,“you know I tell the
truth.”
Here are ten flagrant examples where Obama has not told the
truth and in fact has lied to cover up his own administration’s
failings, or as a deliberate act of deception.
1) As part of his 2008 campaign pledge, Obama promised to
close down Guantanamo Bay. The Obama administration not
only failed to close the infamous prison camp, they expanded
its use.
2) Last year (after campaigning to protect Habeas Corpus
before he was elected), Obama promised not to sign the
National Defense Authorization Act, with its provisions for
the indefinite detention of American citizens, yet put his
signature on the bill in the dead of night on New Year’s Eve.
Indeed, it was the Obama administration itself which argued
for the removal of language that would have protected
Americans from the provisions and then had them re-
instituted after a court had struck them down.
3) Obama has lied time and time again about Operation Fast
and Furious, the program which saw guns delivered directly
into the hands of Mexican drug lords. Obama told a national
television station that the program had begun under
Bush when in fact it began under Obama’s watch in October
4) Emails sent shortly after the incident as well as a CBS 60
Minutes interview from September 12 prove that the White
House knew the assault on the US Consulate in Benghazi was
a pre-meditated terrorist attack yet the administration spent
over a week claiming the incident was a protest against a You
Tube video.
5) As part of his campaign pitch, Obama promised to “not use
signing statements as a way of doing an end run around
Congress.” Obama has issued no less than 19 signing
statements since he took office.
End Of America

United States

#42958 Nov 7, 2012
6) In 2010, Obama said “we’ve excluded lobbyists from policy-
making jobs or seats on federal boards and commissions.” Not
only have dozens of lobbyists had regular access to the White
House, but Obama has hired over a dozen lobbyists , breaking
a campaign promise to ensure that lobbyists “won’t find a job
in my White House.”
7) As part of his efforts to bypass congressional authorization
for the war on Libya, Obama gave a speech in which he
promised there would be “no boots on the ground” in Libya.
This promise was broken when four uniformed military
personnel were sent into Libya, in addition to widespread
reports that US Special Forces had arrived in Libya months
before the overthrow of Gaddafi.
8) Under Obamacare, Obama claimed that there would be no
state-funded abortions. It later emerged that federally funded
abortions would be expanded under Obamacare.
9) In 2008, Obama promised “no more illegal wiretapping of
American citizens.” Just months after he took office, Obama
expanded Bush’s warrantless wiretapping program. The
invasiveness of illegal wiretapping is worse under
Obama than it was under Bush.
10) Before the passage of Obamacare, Obama claimed that the
bill was “absolutely not a tax increase” on all Americans.
When the Supreme Court rubber-stamped Obamacare, they
were only able to do so by classifying the new mandate as a
tax, otherwise it would have been unconstitutional.
Tell the truth? Obama doesn’t know the meaning of the word.
CrimeaRiver

South Ockendon, UK

#42959 Nov 7, 2012
End Of America wrote:
6) In 2010, Obama said “we’ve excluded lobbyists from policy-
making jobs or seats on federal boards and commissions.” Not
only have dozens of lobbyists had regular access to the White
House, but Obama has hired over a dozen lobbyists , breaking
a campaign promise to ensure that lobbyists “won’t find a job
in my White House.”
7) As part of his efforts to bypass congressional authorization
for the war on Libya, Obama gave a speech in which he
promised there would be “no boots on the ground” in Libya.
This promise was broken when four uniformed military
personnel were sent into Libya, in addition to widespread
reports that US Special Forces had arrived in Libya months
before the overthrow of Gaddafi.
8) Under Obamacare, Obama claimed that there would be no
state-funded abortions. It later emerged that federally funded
abortions would be expanded under Obamacare.
9) In 2008, Obama promised “no more illegal wiretapping of
American citizens.” Just months after he took office, Obama
expanded Bush’s warrantless wiretapping program. The
invasiveness of illegal wiretapping is worse under
Obama than it was under Bush.
10) Before the passage of Obamacare, Obama claimed that the
bill was “absolutely not a tax increase” on all Americans.
When the Supreme Court rubber-stamped Obamacare, they
were only able to do so by classifying the new mandate as a
tax, otherwise it would have been unconstitutional.
Tell the truth? Obama doesn’t know the meaning of the word.
Are you against democracy? Do you not respect the votes of millions who chose Obama over Romney? Are you anti-America?
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#42960 Nov 7, 2012
CrimeaRiver wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you against democracy? Do you not respect the votes of millions who chose Obama over Romney? Are you anti-America?
More importantly, the election is over, and that poster needs to get over it as well.
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#42961 Nov 7, 2012
The most interesting aspect of the election, IMO, is the work of Nate Silver.

There have been a few articles out already on whether he is a "genius" or not, and they are entertaining to read because most of them still dont understand what he did - which was to agregate the multiple polls in each state, and then use a gambling/sports computer model to add confidence statistics that projected the accuracy/error of the aggregated data.

SO while many of the pundits were predicting mythical surges based on intuitions, he was describing the accuracy of all the polling data. By saying Obama had a 90% chance of winning, he was saying he had 90% confidence that the polls putting Obama ahead were accurate.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#42962 Nov 7, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
Thank all the Gods the election in now over.
Seaside you are welcome back - we can still be friends!
Two interesting results:
1. Exit polls showed the Obama got statistically the same proportion of Jews (around 70-75%) as 2004.
2. In CT - Linda McMahon, of World Wrestling Federation Fame, lost her senate bid despite spending 50 Million of her OWN money (and also spending 50 Million of her own money a few years ago as well in same bid). Just goes to show that CT we are more sophisticated than to let someone buy a seat.
Oh, worry not - I'm here. Just had a good night's sleep after watching Florida. Just like four years ago, got to move on but not with moveon.org .

Congratulations Democrats - Condolences Republicans and Libertarians.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Ar...
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#42963 Nov 7, 2012
SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, worry not - I'm here. Just had a good night's sleep after watching Florida. Just like four years ago, got to move on but not with moveon.org .
Congratulations Democrats - Condolences Republicans and Libertarians.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Ar...
Yes, that was a graceful article.

It must be frustrating to both Repubs and Democrats alike- to put so much effort and time into Florida, and at the end of the day the state isnt even electorally relevant any more.

I watched the Romney speech. He looked noticably relieved that it was all over.
End Of America

United States

#42964 Nov 7, 2012
CrimeaRiver wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you against democracy? Do you not respect the votes of millions who chose Obama over Romney? Are you anti-America?
More of a "look what you have done to yourself "

The community organizer will accelerate his agenda second term.
America will be finished financially by the end of his term and blaming the previous administration won't work.
Voluntarist

United States

#42965 Nov 7, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, that was a graceful article.
It must be frustrating to both Repubs and Democrats alike- to put so much effort and time into Florida, and at the end of the day the state isnt even electorally relevant any more.
I watched the Romney speech. He looked noticably relieved that it was all over.
As if it matters if there is Goldman Sachs president a or Goldman Sachs president b.
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#42966 Nov 7, 2012
End Of America wrote:
<quoted text>
More of a "look what you have done to yourself "
The community organizer will accelerate his agenda second term.
America will be finished financially by the end of his term and blaming the previous administration won't work.
And if America is doing ok by the end of the next 4 years will you come back to this thread and say you were wrong?
CrimeaRiver

South Ockendon, UK

#42967 Nov 7, 2012
End Of America wrote:
<quoted text>
More of a "look what you have done to yourself "
The community organizer will accelerate his agenda second term.
America will be finished financially by the end of his term and blaming the previous administration won't work.
Do you know how many times the American banking system has crashed and taken half the world with it? Too many times. And do you know what was done each time to esnure it doesn't happen again....... not a damn thing.

The only difference is that America is no longer the only team to back. With emerging markets and the China boom in full swing there are other markets to tap. The USA can't rely on its size and and prominence anymore. It needs to move with the times
End Of America

United States

#42968 Nov 7, 2012
CrimeaRiver wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you know how many times the American banking system has crashed and taken half the world with it? Too many times. And do you know what was done each time to esnure it doesn't happen again....... not a damn thing.
The only difference is that America is no longer the only team to back. With emerging markets and the China boom in full swing there are other markets to tap. The USA can't rely on its size and and prominence anymore. It needs to move with the times
The collapse will be cataclysmic, the US will be devastated, the starving will be much greater than the greatest depression, the sickness will increase and the care for seniors will be a distant memory.
The rioting and the looting by the lower class will increase after food rationing, biometric snap program cards will be introduced.
The only foods available will be gmo.
End Of America

United States

#42969 Nov 7, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
And if America is doing ok by the end of the next 4 years will you come back to this thread and say you were wrong?
America couldn't possibly be doing OK, there isn't a bail out big enough.
Lord Fetch

Lansing, IL

#42970 Nov 7, 2012
End Of America wrote:
<quoted text>
The collapse will be cataclysmic, the US will be devastated, the starving will be much greater than the greatest depression, the sickness will increase and the care for seniors will be a distant memory.
The rioting and the looting by the lower class will increase after food rationing, biometric snap program cards will be introduced.
The only foods available will be gmo.
yeah...just like all your guns were gonna be taken away, sharia law was gonna be implemented, gas was gonna be $6 a gallon...shall i go on. you tards are gonna pop if you're not careful
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#42971 Nov 7, 2012
CrimeaRiver wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you against democracy? Do you not respect the votes of millions who chose Obama over Romney? Are you anti-America?
rabbee: what makes you think, america is still a democracy. when a true democracy, does what the people say. and this is not always the case, for elected politicians.
former res

Newtown Square, PA

#42972 Nov 7, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
Thank all the Gods the election in now over.
Seaside you are welcome back - we can still be friends!
Two interesting results:
1. Exit polls showed the Obama got statistically the same proportion of Jews (around 70-75%) as 2004.
2. In CT - Linda McMahon, of World Wrestling Federation Fame, lost her senate bid despite spending 50 Million of her OWN money (and also spending 50 Million of her own money a few years ago as well in same bid). Just goes to show that CT we are more sophisticated than to let someone buy a seat.
That must me be the $100 million figure I heard - both added together.

Her is supposedly worth around a billion, so they still have even more $ than Romney.

I am now officially a Nate fan - two elections in a row is no fluke:

Wednesday, Nov 7, 2012 02:27 AM EST
Nate Silver nails it

Votes are still being tallied, but the New York Times poll guru appears to have predicted every state correctly
By Jacob Sugarman

http://www.salon.com/2012/11/07/nate_silver_n...
former res

Newtown Square, PA

#42973 Nov 7, 2012
"her....husband..."
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#42974 Nov 7, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
And if America is doing ok by the end of the next 4 years will you come back to this thread and say you were wrong?
rabbee: can america survive, four more years as a sinfull nation? with G-D getting angrier, every moment at us. with two or more anti-D candidates, of little or less than no consequence.

so i do not expect any different ending, here in TheTorah. than all the other times, that it ended exactly the same way. because of all the same mental errors as before.
former res

Newtown Square, PA

#42975 Nov 7, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
The most interesting aspect of the election, IMO, is the work of Nate Silver.
There have been a few articles out already on whether he is a "genius" or not, and they are entertaining to read because most of them still dont understand what he did - which was to agregate the multiple polls in each state, and then use a gambling/sports computer model to add confidence statistics that projected the accuracy/error of the aggregated data.
SO while many of the pundits were predicting mythical surges based on intuitions, he was describing the accuracy of all the polling data. By saying Obama had a 90% chance of winning, he was saying he had 90% confidence that the polls putting Obama ahead were accurate.
yeah I read the one questioning his brilliance and saying all he did was look at the polls.

He never claimed to do anyomore than that and that was the point.

He looked at them, he weighted them, and he made mathematical predictions.

Predictions which have proved highly accurate. In at lest two elections that I know of.

And that's good enough for me.
former res

Newtown Square, PA

#42976 Nov 7, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, that was a graceful article.
It must be frustrating to both Repubs and Democrats alike- to put so much effort and time into Florida, and at the end of the day the state isnt even electorally relevant any more.
I watched the Romney speech. He looked noticably relieved that it was all over.
I'd stiil like to see Obama bag FL - not to spike the ball.

But 29 electoral votes - I want them!

:)

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