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Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#42854 Nov 4, 2012
SeasideSoon wrote:
Rudy Guiliani defends Michael Bloomberg for handling of crisis. FEMA response feeble at best. With 5 days advance warning, why didn't FEMA have water supplies stationed nearby, same with gasoline trucks? In other words, FEMA dropped the ball again.
Lets see what your hero had to say on the matter:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/28/mitt...

During a CNN debate at the height of the GOP primary, Mitt Romney was asked, in the context of the Joplin disaster and FEMA's cash crunch, whether the agency should be shuttered so that states can individually take over responsibility for disaster response.

"Absolutely," he said. "Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further, and send it back to the private sector, that's even better. Instead of thinking, in the federal budget, what we should cut, we should ask the opposite question, what should we keep?"

"Including disaster relief, though?" debate moderator John King asked Romney.

"We cannot -- we cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our kids," Romney replied. "It is simply immoral, in my view, for us to continue to rack up larger and larger debts and pass them on to our kids, knowing full well that we'll all be dead and gone before it's paid off. It makes no sense at all."
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#42855 Nov 4, 2012
http://www.fema.gov/sandy

There is an entire chronology and documentation of efforts on a Sandy webpage. I really doubt you could found an equivalent for Katrina only 5 days after the storm....

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#42856 Nov 4, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Five days before the storm noone knew which track it was to take.
Also, it sped up after the turn to the east, which was not anticipated.
Its easy for you armchair quaterback from your spot in Georgia.
These are basic facts that everyone here in the NE knows.
Then I recommend that some of you NEasters should start watching Fox News, because I was hearing about the track and severity of the storm, apparently long before you'all did, or long before you'all started taking it serious. Jes' saying..

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/10/25/tracking...

It seems the quarterbacking is from the usual suspects in the know-it-all region.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#42857 Nov 4, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
What metric or qualifications are you using to judge the response. Everything I have heard is that FEMA is doing an excellant job, considering.
Under Mitt or George, there would be NO fema. Is that what you prefer?
metric?? How about no bottled water on standby, and no fuel trucks on standby?(as I mentioned earlier)

10/28/12 Obama visits FEMA, says Hurricane Sandy resources "are in place".

Really..?

Back on the ground - just google 'still waiting for FEMA'

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#42858 Nov 4, 2012
Wow, Obama campaining in New Hampshire, and is talking about limited government. Perhaps he was referring to his position on FEMA - suppose?

"Obama has proposed cuts of $1 billion, or 3%, to the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) for 2013. More money would be given to state and local programs under Obama's proposal." (actually I agree with this - that's where the money belongs because that's where it comes from.)

This hasn't appeared in the mainstream eastern press I'll bet.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#42859 Nov 4, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Thats funny, none of the Quebecans in my neighborhood have that sticker.
I just found out that in my parents neighborhood one of their neighbors fled the night after the storm, to return to find out someone had burglarized his house.
I also found out that the Quebecans were working the night shift and sleeping it off at the Hyatt Regency. nice. Hope they used the jacuzzi.
A friends neighbor's home was ransacked within an hour of the lights going out. Pretty pathetic.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#42860 Nov 4, 2012
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
A friends neighbor's home was ransacked within an hour of the lights going out. Pretty pathetic.
Looters probably believe that they are owed other people's stuff. It's taught in most schools and some politicians play to it.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#42861 Nov 4, 2012
Lecture 5

The Comprehensiveness of the Holy Prophet’s Life- Part-35

Unity in Diversity:

There was a unity in variety in the diverse virtues displayed by the companions of the holy Prophet (Peace be upon him). Outstanding in them all was the power or faith which worked like lightning. It was this spirit which inspired them all. It was the faith in one God, sincerity of purpose, selfless spirit of serving others, sympathy and love for fellow human beings and, above all, the intention to please Allah in whatever they did and wherever they went that inspired everyone.

It was this spirit that moved a king or his subjects alike, the rich or the poor, a judge or a witness, an officer or a soldier, a teacher or a student, an ascetic or a trader, a warrior or a martyr. They were different in their colour, their temperament, their race but they believed in one Allah, the same Prophet, the same book and bowed in prayer in the same direction. They all worked for a
common purpose—to uphold the Truth, to serve one God and bring His Message to all mankind binding them in one common faith and to make this world a better place to live.

My dear friends! In today’s talk I have tried to show you the many- sided virtues collectively present in one person, the holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him). If, after your observation of nature, you believe that this world of ours is a mixture of varied human talents, capabilities and temperaments, you will agree with me, that no one other than Prophet Muhammad can be the eternal and universal leader of humanity.

The reason is that he was chosen by the Creator of this universe for this eternal role. In the following verse of the holy Quran, the last message to humanity from Allah, it is stated very clearly:
Say: If ye do love god follow me god will love you For those who love God and want to be loved by God, there cannot be any other choice, because Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) has shown the way of love by living every moment of his life in Allah’s love.

Therefore only he can proclaim,‘Follow me!” Whether you be a king or a subject, a commander or a soldier, a teacher or a student, rich or poor and helpless, in whatever capacity you want to serve Allah and His creatures, follow the example of the holy Prophet and you will never fail to find the best example in his practice.

O Allah, send Your Mercy and Blessings on him, his family and his Companions.

(Contd.)
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#42862 Nov 5, 2012
SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>Then I recommend that some of you NEasters should start watching Fox News, because I was hearing about the track and severity of the storm, apparently long before you'all did, or long before you'all started taking it serious. Jes' saying..
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/10/25/tracking...
It seems the quarterbacking is from the usual suspects in the know-it-all region.
The models did not consolidate until about 3 days before. There were two major models - the American model and the European model, and a multititude of private models. The European model won out. Interestingly enough, the Eurpoean model also predicted the noreaster that we are set to get this week so I think there will be a lot discussion of that issue in the comming days. The choice of which model to use is a scientific debate not a FEMA debate. You are injecting politics into this where it is not.

Seaside, you do realize you sound like a political carpetbagger??

Us that live here in the TriState area know what the score is. Paul Krugman has a good collumn today comparing the Katrina vs Sandy responses
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/05/opinion/kru...

My take on all of this:
REPUBLICAN PLAYBOOK 101
-hope for a crisis to blama on Obama
-OOPS no crisis, invent one
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#42863 Nov 5, 2012
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
A friends neighbor's home was ransacked within an hour of the lights going out. Pretty pathetic.
And I thought that it was only my realtively poorer neighborhood that should fear this

I think this stuff is happening more than we like to think, and is probably not being reported for a variety of reasons

Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#42864 Nov 5, 2012
SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>metric?? How about no bottled water on standby, and no fuel trucks on standby?(as I mentioned earlier)
10/28/12 Obama visits FEMA, says Hurricane Sandy resources "are in place".
Really..?
Back on the ground - just google 'still waiting for FEMA'
I am not sure what alternative universe you are getting your news from, but here on the ground zero, everyone is pretty happy considering. Yes there has been some bumps, the gas delivery was kind of botched (thouhg far from an emegency as gas is widely available 40 miles away), and ideally everyone would like power back yesterday, and their lost homes restored, but overall most of us are very thankful and appreciative.

Noone expected 100% bailout the moment after the storm.

I guess your bubble doesnt include Republican Chris Christie who is effusive on this issue.

I think FR was correct. You need to distangle yourself from your news source - thats seems to be at the root.

AND BTW even if Sandy didnt happen, IMO Romney possibly fatally shot himself in the foot and with the Jeep ad anyway. That will go down in history.
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#42865 Nov 5, 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/05/opinion/kru...

Right-wing news media are portraying these continuing difficulties as a disaster comparable to, nay greater than, the aftermath of Katrina. But there’s really no comparison.

I could do a point-by-point — and it’s definitely worth it, if you’re curious, to revisit the 2005 Katrina timeline to get a sense of just how bad the response really was. But for me the difference is summed up in two images. One is the nightmare at the New Orleans convention center, where thousands were stranded for days amid inconceivable squalor, an outrage that all of America watched live on TV, but to which top officials seemed oblivious. The other is the scene in flooded Hoboken, with the National Guard moving in the day after the storm struck to deliver food and water and rescue stranded residents.

The point is that after Katrina the government seemed to have no idea what it was doing; this time it did. And that’s no accident: the federal government’s ability to respond effectively to disaster always collapses when antigovernment Republicans hold the White House, and always recovers when Democrats take it back.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#42866 Nov 5, 2012
SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>Looters probably believe that they are owed other people's stuff. It's taught in most schools and some politicians play to it.
Stop watching Fox. It's polluting your brain.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#42867 Nov 5, 2012
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop watching Fox. It's polluting your brain.
I sense a common touchiness in your region. After the election, whichever way it goes, I will cheerfully return to what I do, just like I did four years ago. Unfortunately, some are not capable of doing so, and if it goes badly for you'all election-wise, I understand you have an overpopulation of shrinks up there. So, you should be able to get past it after a few hundred hundred-dollar sessions. Sympathies..

If you'all can't afford those therapy sessions, I'm sure there's an Opp for that.
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#42868 Nov 5, 2012
SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>I sense a common touchiness in your region. After the election, whichever way it goes, I will cheerfully return to what I do, just like I did four years ago. Unfortunately, some are not capable of doing so, and if it goes badly for you'all election-wise, I understand you have an overpopulation of shrinks up there. So, you should be able to get past it after a few hundred hundred-dollar sessions. Sympathies..
If you'all can't afford those therapy sessions, I'm sure there's an Opp for that.
Your looting comment was out of order.

These arent looters. These are burglars.
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#42869 Nov 5, 2012
SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>I sense a common touchiness in your region. After the election, whichever way it goes, I will cheerfully return to what I do, just like I did four years ago. Unfortunately, some are not capable of doing so,....
Mitch McConnell: "I want to make Obama a one term president.."
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#42870 Nov 5, 2012
SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>If you'all can't afford those therapy sessions, I'm sure there's an Opp for that.
I think you meant "app" for that. Or you should of...

:)

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#42871 Nov 5, 2012
SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>I sense a common touchiness in your region. After the election, whichever way it goes, I will cheerfully return to what I do, just like I did four years ago. Unfortunately, some are not capable of doing so, and if it goes badly for you'all election-wise, I understand you have an overpopulation of shrinks up there. So, you should be able to get past it after a few hundred hundred-dollar sessions. Sympathies..
If you'all can't afford those therapy sessions, I'm sure there's an Opp for that.
We survived 8 years of Bush. We'll manage just fine, thank you.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#42872 Nov 5, 2012
Power was restored this morning. I'm back in business, baby.
Frijoles

Cromwell, CT

#42873 Nov 5, 2012
Cult of Reason wrote:
Power was restored this morning. I'm back in business, baby.
not a moment too soon. Noreaster coming, and it is coooold out now.

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