Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

[Voluntarist]

Frijoles wrote:

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and where in the CT Constitution is snow removal, leaf pickup, recycling and garbage, fire safety, or ems?
Do have a shrine to your Constitution? Do you leave fruit?

The much abused promote the general welfare clause.

[Voluntarist]

Rtloder wrote:

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People including him, Bush, used to say God made him do it, now Obama after paying the enemy not to attack, has to support the terrorism of the enemy to try
to get Saddam Hussein back again.
Now other people who have never been
to the middle east are saying, it was God that made him do it.

Crazy isn't it?
Shameful that the us government is responsible for 9/11.

[Voluntarist]

Frijoles wrote:

Former -
How goes the storm? So far we have gotten the winds - will probably loose power at some point. Our governor told the cities to implement Cat 4 disaster plans. They are evacuating everything below Post Road in a lot of places, inc Bridgeport.(No worries here - I am well above).
BTW I succumbed to the hype yesterday and bought another pack of AA batteries. So much for a battery shortage - at the podunk supermarket there were about a dozen displays of them - all selling well with more in store. I left thinking the storm was just a conspiracy by Energizer to sell stock.(Now looking outside - I am not so sure about that)

Preparation for martial law plans, this is a dry run, Bridgeport mayor bitching that people aren't leaving their homes to go to shelter.
Next the nanny will be telling you that you have to leave.

[Voluntarist]

Frijoles wrote:

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How can you just ignore the legal debate within between the literalists and everyone else? Denial is not an acceptable strategy - you would be laughed out of a law school classroom.

There is no legal debate in regards to hierarchy of law, what are you babbling about?

[Frijoles]

Voluntarist wrote:

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Preparation for martial law plans, this is a dry run, Bridgeport mayor bitching that people aren't leaving their homes to go to shelter.
Next the nanny will be telling you that you have to leave.

This is not a dry run. FEMA already opened up their camps with a special accomodation just for you.(You get a pillow mint and your own butterfly net)

[Frijoles]

Voluntarist wrote:

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The much abused promote the general welfare clause.

I agree. You abuse not only the Constitution but reason and logic as well.

[former res]

Frijoles wrote:

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Dont forget that CT is home to 2 of the most spectacular bridge failures in American history - both over the I95 corridor
I95 Mianus Bridge in the 80s - of course you remember that - you were probably living 1 mile away
Bridgeport I95 Bridge - 2002 or 2003 - though that failure was hastened by a burning truck if I recollect

My brother was on I95 in G'ch that night. I was already down here but remember it well. Much traffic in Route 1 (detour) thru town for a long time.

I think I remember the burning truck too. We had of them down here too - did a lot of damage.

[former res]

Frijoles wrote:

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Dunno - the jesus thing is that other religion, not mine
:)

Oh...right!

I get confused sometime.

;)

[former res]

Frijoles wrote:

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Like I said, birtherism.
Lets face it - you hate Obama. Now that we got that over with....

There's a lot of racism down south.

I'm just sayin.

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

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My brother was on I95 in G'ch that night. I was already down here but remember it well. Much traffic in Route 1 (detour) thru town for a long time.
I think I remember the burning truck too. We had of them down here too - did a lot of damage.

I had also driven over the Mianus Bridge a few hours earlier coming home from a Simon & Garfunkel concert in the Meadowlands (those were the days, huh?). The bridge collapsed near dawn during a low traffic time, which saved lives.

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

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There's a lot of racism down south.
I'm just sayin.

I agree. But Seaside is no racist. Neither is Donald Trump. John McCain I cant speak for - except that his embrace of this new birtherism really shows that perhaps we need to provide pastures for anyone in congress more than 40 years.

[former res]

Frijoles wrote:

Former -
How goes the storm? So far we have gotten the winds - will probably loose power at some point. Our governor told the cities to implement Cat 4 disaster plans. They are evacuating everything below Post Road in a lot of places, inc Bridgeport.(No worries here - I am well above).
BTW I succumbed to the hype yesterday and bought another pack of AA batteries. So much for a battery shortage - at the podunk supermarket there were about a dozen displays of them - all selling well with more in store. I left thinking the storm was just a conspiracy by Energizer to sell stock.(Now looking outside - I am not so sure about that)

So far so good. I've heard a few limbs fall in the neighbors' yards. Some steady wind and gusts; rain and ponding visible.

I think we're getting the worst of it later tonight and overnight.
I was thinking how convenient it would be to lose power only while we're sleeping!

Sounds like you're doing ok too. Better to have batteries and not need them.

But I think you'e right - the worst is ahead here and probably there too.

My mom's below the post road. My sis lost her power on g'ch/stamford border. But it's back now.

We made Jiffypop before the power goes out! Priorities,

[former res]

Voluntarist wrote:

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The much abused promote the general welfare clause.

Glad to hear you support Welfare.

Social safety nets are very important.

[former res]

Frijoles wrote:

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I agree. But Seaside is no racist. Neither is Donald Trump. John McCain I cant speak for - except that his embrace of this new birtherism really shows that perhaps we need to provide pastures for anyone in congress more than 40 years.

Not so sure about the Donald.

Why single Obama out for all that scrutiny?

Though I know Letterman aplogized, maybe just for ratings/to get Donald back on the show.

They got along well the other night. Letterman even gets along with O'reilly now. I think he's mellowing in his old age,

[Cult of Reason]

Frijoles wrote:

Former -
How goes the storm? So far we have gotten the winds - will probably loose power at some point. Our governor told the cities to implement Cat 4 disaster plans. They are evacuating everything below Post Road in a lot of places, inc Bridgeport.(No worries here - I am well above).
BTW I succumbed to the hype yesterday and bought another pack of AA batteries. So much for a battery shortage - at the podunk supermarket there were about a dozen displays of them - all selling well with more in store. I left thinking the storm was just a conspiracy by Energizer to sell stock.(Now looking outside - I am not so sure about that)

Having a fun time walking the dog? Mine seems to be taking it in stride. Road down the street from me has been evacuated. It flooded around 11am at high tide. Expected to get worse tonight. I'm on higher ground so safe here as long as no trees fall. Getting a little stir crazy as are the kids....schools closed Mon, Tues and Wed.

[Frijoles]

Cult of Reason wrote:

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Having a fun time walking the dog? Mine seems to be taking it in stride. Road down the street from me has been evacuated. It flooded around 11am at high tide. Expected to get worse tonight. I'm on higher ground so safe here as long as no trees fall. Getting a little stir crazy as are the kids....schools closed Mon, Tues and Wed.

Dog knows better than to go on a walk. We lost power briefly twice already (no doubt part of FRs sisters event)- at the rate the wind is blowing I doubt we will last through the evening without loosing it for real. I am watching trees going horizontal. I know about stir crazy - day care closed until further notice. According to "suggested" evac (not the mandatory evac), you should be gone by now, as well as the entire downtown.

[Eric]

Voluntarist wrote:

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The much abused promote the general welfare clause.

I just read the CT constitution. There is no general welfare clause.

[Frijoles]

former res wrote:

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Not so sure about the Donald.
Why single Obama out for all that scrutiny?
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Its all about the publicity for his brand.

There was an interview released a few days ago of Obama a few hours after Bengahzi, a day before the Rose garden. It was linked on SLATE.COM It was not supposed to be a major interview for release, just a minor local station. Obama admitted that the govt really had no clue what was going on since the situation was still fluid, that they were labeling it an act of terror but that could change as soon as the intelligence came in. Basically all the stuff he stated publically many days afterwords (as others were claiming his story wasnt consistent).

And yet birtherism redux continues, unabated.

Willful ignorance of any fact contrary to the position.

McCain even admitted that for him, it was about the politics.

[Frijoles]

Eric wrote:

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I just read the CT constitution. There is no general welfare clause.

He also receives curbside garbage, recyling, leaf pickup, fire and police protection, snow removal, etc etc. But yet he believes it is unconstitutional.

[Voluntarist]

former res wrote:

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Glad to hear you support Welfare.
Social safety nets are very important.

I do not support welfare, and there is much debate about what "promoting the general welfare " means.
I have a hard time believing that the founders intended on handing out their money to others.