Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Frijoles

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Oct 28, 2012
 
SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>Point 1. could be
Point 2: damned right it is - nobody got killed during Watergate. Dead people didn't start piling up until the Clintons got in office, and now this narcissistic amateur is afraid to send help to Benghazi after getting 3 requests and sat and watched the slaughter.
Notice the carefully worded statements from the CIA and State "No one is THIS department denied the requests for assistance."
Hmmm - which department could it be? Wonder why Hillary has lawyered up - she's not going to get thrown under the bus by an amateur.
Come now. If you want to impose an unduly harsh standard on this, then Bush II should of hung multiple times for war crimes. Where were you back then?
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Oct 28, 2012
 
SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>You didn't hear the spokesperson..it was stated as if Obama loses, it will be because of the hurricane. That's pathetic.
I dont think that would happen. But if it did, and he could demonstrate why, then he would have a point.

My point is that you label this with an invective - "pathetic". why not see it for what it is - a numbers game. Nothing more, nothing less.

And yes, this storm is a big deal. Maybe not where you are, but in the northeast it is huge and may (or may not) have a real impact of the election. There are 60 million people affected.
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Dummy, government isnt a business. Its supposed to run on deficits.
Where does it state in the Constitution that government "is supposed to run on deficits dummy"
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Silly, government includes county, state, and municipal orgqanizations, any or all of them formed to provide services. You need to get out for often.
Listen retard, the Constitution is the foundation for Government, any power not granted is not authorized.
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Where does it state in the Constitution that government "is supposed to run on deficits dummy"
Constitution doesnt get into the how, nor is it applicable to muncipal or state govt.
Frijoles

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Oct 28, 2012
 
Like I said, govt isnt a business. Find a new model.
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Oct 28, 2012
 
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You never saw or head JC Superstar?
JC was upset at all the swindling going on as I recall.
Everything I know from the bible is via musical theater!
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Actually it is the ruler that demanded payment by the half shekel, that is why JC was upset, government involved once again.
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Listen retard, the Constitution is the foundation for Government, any power not granted is not authorized.
Many people beg to differ. Its a matter of interpretation. You are hung up on proving negatives - i.e. b/c it istn stated it does not exist. Many others choose another approach - if the action doesnt conflict - than it is ok. These are totally separate sschools of thought and equally accepted historically. You CHOOSE to ignore thi s- your problem, not mine.
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Oct 28, 2012
 
Frijoles wrote:
Like I said, govt isnt a business. Find a new model.
No excuse for reckless spending I see.
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Frijoles wrote:
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Come now. If you want to impose an unduly harsh standard on this, then Bush II should of hung multiple times for war crimes. Where were you back then?
I figured you would go there, so here's a time capsule for you to consider if you really think he's on your side, or that Romney's on my side. I have a personal agenda - the economy and that we don't end up like Europe, and that when we have Americans anywhere, they get backup when they need it.

http://stpeteforpeace.org/obama.html

One tidbit: more than twice as many Americans have been killed in Afghanistan during Obama four years than Bush eight years.

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SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>Point 1. could be
Point 2: damned right it is - nobody got killed during Watergate. Dead people didn't start piling up until the Clintons got in office, and now this narcissistic amateur is afraid to send help to Benghazi after getting 3 requests and sat and watched the slaughter.
Notice the carefully worded statements from the CIA and State "No one is THIS department denied the requests for assistance."
Hmmm - which department could it be? Wonder why Hillary has lawyered up - she's not going to get thrown under the bus by an amateur.
We Americans cannot be policing the world. We already have 225 army bases around the world. We spend more on defence than the whole world combined. Defence has a blank cheque that you people will eventually pay for...you GGG Great grandkids. We owe trillions to CHINA. We shipped all our jobs overseas and then buy the crap back on credit. We are a nation of unemployed shoppers who buy on credit. People in this forum think that we have POWER to fix other countries problems.....we are bankrupt. We fail to look after our most important resource....AMERICANS......and we are homeless. Be glad that you can afford the internet and just SHUT UP. America is back in the 30's.
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Oct 28, 2012
 
Considering that an incumbent president only has 9 solid states in his column a week before the election, this is my cautious prediction:
Washington
California*
Oregon
New Mexico
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Michigan
Illinois*
Ohio
Pennsylvania
Maryland*
Delaware*
New Jersey
Connecticut
Rhode Island*
Massachusetts*
New York*
Vermont*
Maine
Hawaii
D.C.* all go for Obama
Total - 265 Obama

If I include the tossups with slight edge for O. but small lead, Wisconsin and Ohio go to Romney, leaving Obama with 237.
(Ohio went for Bush twice and Wisconsin definitely more Republican in the last two years)

If I get really optimistic, Pennsylvania suburbs which have also become more Republican, come out in force, leaving Obama with 217.



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Constitution doesnt get into the how, nor is it applicable to muncipal or state govt.
Wow you are really showing your ignorance here, State government only operates by powers granted by the state constitution, as well as municipalities.
Are you on something?
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Many people beg to differ. Its a matter of interpretation. You are hung up on proving negatives - i.e. b/c it istn stated it does not exist. Many others choose another approach - if the action doesnt conflict - than it is ok. These are totally separate sschools of thought and equally accepted historically. You CHOOSE to ignore thi s- your problem, not mine.
The many that choose aren't consistent with history,, every supreme court case deals with powers granted, there are I think 18 enumerated powers to the federal government, EVERYTHING they do has to stem within those boundaries.
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SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>I figured you would go there, so here's a time capsule for you to consider if you really think he's on your side, or that Romney's on my side. I have a personal agenda - the economy and that we don't end up like Europe, and that when we have Americans anywhere, they get backup when they need it.
http://stpeteforpeace.org/obama.html
One tidbit: more than twice as many Americans have been killed in Afghanistan during Obama four years than Bush eight years.
Lets start counting the dead from the Iraq war including the needless killing of Iraqis shall we?

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Lets start counting the dead from the Iraq war including the needless killing of Iraqis shall we?
IT's OBAMA.....Republicans charged a war in Iraq over 1 trillion. Americans will not forget that. When you forget, neglect your most precious resources...the people....a nation falls in decline. We have over 400 bridges in this country falling piece by piece. We are a nation in decline because of Republicans. FK our democracy when we forget our own. Tools
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Lecture 5

The Comprehensiveness of the Holy Prophet’s Life- Part-31

Why Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) is a Role Model?(Contd)

About forty years back, Hassan Ali, a well known teacher and preacher of Islam used to bring out a magazine from Patna (India) called the “Light of Islam”. He has quoted some remarks in his magazine, from one of his non-Muslim friends. This friend, a well-educated Hindu, once said to him,“I consider your Prophet the greatest and most perfect personality ever to have lived in this world.”

Hassan Ali asked him, How do you compare our Prophet (Peace be upon him) with Jesus (Peace be upon him). He said, compared to Muhammad, Jesus seems to me like an innocent little child talking sweetly in front of a great sage.” Then he asked him,‘why do you consider the Prophet of Islam the most perfect man in human history’ He said that he saw in his life such conflicting and diverse qualities present at the same time as have never been combined into one single personality.

He was a king who had absolute power over a vast country like Arabia and yet displayed such humbleness as if he had no power even on his own self and was totally dependent upon Allah. He was so wealthy that camel-loads of treasures were coming into his capital as a tribute and yet in his own house no fire was lit for months together, and he went without food for days. He was a military commander of such caliber that he would enter into a battle with a handful of men against thousands of well equipped, armoured enemy and come out victorious.

And yet he was so peace loving that when he had under his command thousands of warriors, who would gladly give up their lives for him, he signed a peace treaty without hesitation. He was so courageous that he would face thousands of enemies all alone and yet so kind-hearted that he did not shed the blood of a single human being with his own hand.

So mindful of human ties that he would care for the well- being of his family, his countrymen, the poor and the needy, and would worry himself to death for the salvation of the whole human race. But when he stood in prayer before Allah, it seemed that he had known no one but Him. He never took revenge for himself, even from those who called him names and persecuted him.

He forgave his worst personal enemies and wished them well. But he never forgave those who were Allah’s enemy and stood in the way of spreading the Truth. He always warned them of the torture of Hell and God’s wrath. Just when we think he is a fighting swordsman, he appears to be a hermit who stands in prayer all night long. We look at him in awe as a great conqueror but at the same time he appears before us as the innocent Messenger of Allah.

We want to call him the emperor of Arabia, but find him sifting on a humble mat made from the date-palm leaves. There comes a time when the courtyard of his mosque in Madinah is piled up with spoils of war from all over Arabia, yet in his own home his children are starving. And when the prisoners of war are being distributed over other Muslim households, his own daughter Fatima (May Allah be pleased with her) returns home empty handed though her hands are blistered and her body is scarred as a result of vigorous household chores.

Half of Arabia has submitted to him, but when his companion Umar visits him, he finds him lying on a coarse mat which has left its marks on his bare shoulders. In a corner he finds a handful of barley and an empty jar hanging from a hook. Umar’s eyes are filled with tears at this austerity and self-denial.

When he’s asked why he is crying, he says,“O Messenger of Allah! Can there be a greater reason for my crying? The emperors of the Persian and the Roman Empire are living in luxuries while you, the Prophet of Allah, live in such poverty”

The Prophet says,“Umar! Aren’t you pleased to know that their lot is this temporary world and we are to get the eternal bliss in the Hereafter?’

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IT's OBAMA.....Republicans charged a war in Iraq over 1 trillion. Americans will not forget that. When you forget, neglect your most precious resources...the people....a nation falls in decline. We have over 400 bridges in this country falling piece by piece. We are a nation in decline because of Republicans. FK our democracy when we forget our own. Tools
You don't appear too neglected. Obama's unemployment has increased in all sectors of society, especially in his pet groups. The stimulus should've rebuilt thousands of bridges. It's the economy stupid.

" Recovery.gov counted and the amount of jobs stimulus created under 751,000.... In the areas that saw gains, most of them were because of government jobs.... workers make 60% more than the private sector and four times as much in benefits"

..like we need more government employees.
Frijoles

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Wow you are really showing your ignorance here, State government only operates by powers granted by the state constitution, as well as municipalities.
Are you on something?
You try to sound smug,
but the REALITY is that if providing a safety net to the less fortunate OR snow removal OR public schooling to the rest of us is unconstitutional,
then how come noone has SUCCESSFULLY sued state or local government (or even the federal government for that matter) for being unconstitutional?

You are a loon. You worship the constitution as if it is a deity.
Frijoles

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SeasideSoon wrote:
<quoted text>You don't appear too neglected. Obama's unemployment has increased in all sectors of society, especially in his pet groups. The stimulus should've rebuilt thousands of bridges. It's the economy stupid.
" Recovery.gov counted and the amount of jobs stimulus created under 751,000.... In the areas that saw gains, most of them were because of government jobs.... workers make 60% more than the private sector and four times as much in benefits"
..like we need more government employees.
Again, I dont know what woods you live in, but in our area the impacts in infrastructure and jobs because of the ARRA is obvious and apparent. Maybe you should move to a better area.

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