NM proposes sale of national historic landmark

Jan 30, 2014 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: WFLX-TV West Palm Beach

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Very shortsighted

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Interesting that every historical landmark always takes a ton of money to maintain or enhance immediately. Apparently its against the rules to just own and keep one for potential repairs at a later date when funding might be available. Government always forgets that the more you accumulate, the more your costs increase - using current rule sets.
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I can't understand why some want to preserve old forts that remind our Native Indians of imprisonment, killing, torture, and other imaginable atrocities of war. Like the Trinity Site, these old camps need have what can be recycled, and the other material, environmentally disposed of. I suggest the NM tax payer, excluding The Native American Indians, pay for all of the cost. Then Graciously give the land back to them. Offer to build whatever they desire. Just off the property we can have our own American brass plaque, describing the fort, 6" in diameter so their cows and steers can piss on it.

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THE GREEN WATCHDOG wrote:
I can't understand why some want to preserve old forts that remind our Native Indians of imprisonment, killing, torture, and other imaginable atrocities of war. Like the Trinity Site, these old camps need have what can be recycled, and the other material, environmentally disposed of. I suggest the NM tax payer, excluding The Native American Indians, pay for all of the cost. Then Graciously give the land back to them. Offer to build whatever they desire. Just off the property we can have our own American brass plaque, describing the fort, 6" in diameter so their cows and steers can piss on it.
Denying our history and trying to erase it from our national memory is wrong. Using your "logic" Austria and Germany would raze all the former concentration camps so that people like you could have only happy thoughts and not be disturbed by these unpleasant reminders of our past. The old concentration camps are now museums so that the horrors of what happened there will not be forgotten.
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Perhaps the Apache were persued and put on reservations (not at Fort Bayard), but there is much more to this story. Fort Bayard had the first colored soldier units after the Civil War which was a period of building these men into proud citizens of our nation, educating them, teaching lifelong skills and giving purpose to their lives after the war.
Fort Bayard also served as a for US Veteran tuberculosis healing center and Veterans Administration Hospital for our wounded and sick veterans until 1965. Some of the doctors serving there were instrumental in helping save the lives of many US citizens.
Fort Bayard has so much history that should be preserved. Come visit or take a tour before you judge.
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Fort Bayard borders the Fort Bayard National Cemetery, the second of two in New Mexico. We honor the dead buried there since 1866 until the present. All races, genders who served are honored, including Native Americans.
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Do a little research on the Federal investigation released in 2005 on the conditions at the "State" facility at Fort Bayard. Over 30 recorded deaths to patients under the care and at the hands the NM Health Department. Billy Richardson was Governor at the time and made inside deals with the Feds to reduce the liability to New Mexico and cheat the families of the victims . The results of the investigation had no teeth and was crammed under the huge rug of corruption compiled by your ex-Governor. The report can be Googled (Fort Bayard Federal Investigation 2005) It makes me ashamed to be a forth generation New Mexican that has a culture of cronyism and no morales.

Consistent with our statutory obligations under CRIPA, I now
write to advise you formally of the findings of our
investigation, the facts supporting them, and the minimal
remedial steps that are necessary to remedy the deficiencies set
forth below. 42 U.S.C.§ 1997b(a). Specifically, we have
concluded that numerous conditions and practices at Ft. Bayard
violate the constitutional and federal statutory rights of its
residents. In particular, we find that residents of Ft. Bayard
suffer significant harm and risk of harm from the facility’s
inadequate medical and nursing care services; improper and
dangerous psychotropic medication practices; failure to provide
adequate safety; inadequate nutritional and hydration services;
and inadequate restorative care and specialized rehabilitation
services.
Our investigation revealed a wide range of dangerously
deficient medical and nursing care practices. These practices
not only failed to comply with federal regulations or meet
professional standards, but were in fact aiding and contributing
to the needless suffering and untimely deaths of Ft. Bayard’s
residents. We found numerous situations where residents’ last
days of life were spent in miserable pain as they died from the
effects of what appeared to be reckless and almost willful
disregard to their health and safety. In fact, in practically
every record we reviewed of deceased or current Ft. Bayard
residents, we discovered life-threatening omissions and
commissions of treatment. In every medical record we reviewed,
our consultants found substantial departures from the generally
accepted standards in nursing home care.

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Fort Bayard's history: One of the nations oldest remaining Forts, however after WWII the federal government provided the Fort to the state of NM and has used it as a "state hospital" for indigent NM residents. This is not a pretty place. Building structures are WWII era and very little has been done by the state of NM to maintain it to modern hospital standards. The federal investigation is legitimate. I have a business in Grant county and may times gone to the Fort to view one of the largest mule dear herds in state.
The hospital facilities are hell on earth. I recommend anyone to visit and provide a personal opinion.

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kawhill wrote:
Fort Bayard borders the Fort Bayard National Cemetery, the second of two in New Mexico. We honor the dead buried there since 1866 until the present. All races, genders who served are honored, including Native Americans.
There are three National Cemeteries in New Mexico. Fort Bayard, Santa Fe, and Albuquerque. The third and newest. Enter at the Gibson gate of Kirtland Air Force Base.
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The rest of the story wrote:
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your off-topic spam here under two names?

The issue is the state destroying by neglect and by design a National Historic Landmark.

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your off-topic spam here under two names?
The issue is the state destroying by neglect and by design a National Historic Landmark.
And you are? The Topix thread patrol. What I posted is true. Stick you head in the sand or better yet, have you EVER been to the Fort Bayard and visited the State run hospital or even know a damb thing about what has gone on there for the last 50 years?
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TheSilverBullet wrote:
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What you posted is irrelevant to the National Historic Landmark and the state's irresponsible stewardship of an historic property. You seem to have a thick skull and an old axe to grind that has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
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What you posted is irrelevant to the National Historic Landmark and the state's irresponsible stewardship of an historic property. You seem to have a thick skull and an old axe to grind that has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
You have never been to Fort Bayard. Yes?
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for our nation's historic heritage, I'm not required to visit and signoff on each National Historic Landmark. I don't have the time and we have professionals who have studied, documented and confirmed its historic significance with state and federal review.

Also lucky for all of us, whether you think it is pretty or not, or that as a disgruntled state employee you have a political axe to grind; doesn't matter to the fact that it is a historic landmark and is not being managed properly.
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THE GREEN WATCHDOG wrote:
I can't understand why some want to preserve old forts that remind our Native Indians of imprisonment, killing, torture, and other imaginable atrocities of war. Like the Trinity Site, these old camps need have what can be recycled, and the other material, environmentally disposed of. I suggest the NM tax payer, excluding The Native American Indians, pay for all of the cost. Then Graciously give the land back to them. Offer to build whatever they desire. Just off the property we can have our own American brass plaque, describing the fort, 6" in diameter so their cows and steers can piss on it.
Well, the above is among the most truly IGNORANT commentaries I've read in years. So, before we all (Non-Native North Americans) get back on a flotilla of ships, planes, trains and automobiles to go back to where we came from, to whom should we deed the United States and Canada? As I recall, Native Americans came to North America on the Bering Sea land bridge which was exposed during the last ice age. Does this mean Native Americans will also return to Siberia? Should we all just leave and erect a plaque which states "To Whom It May Concern..." Better yet, as written by Dr. Suess in the Lorax, maybe it should just be the single word "Unless"!
American Citizen

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kawhill wrote:
Fort Bayard borders the Fort Bayard National Cemetery, the second of two in New Mexico. We honor the dead buried there since 1866 until the present. All races, genders who served are honored, including Native Americans.
Yes! Don't forget the two Medal of Honor recipients who rest in the Ft. Bayard National Cemetery. There are also civilians resting there as well, spouses, children and others directly connected with ALL the Heroes who served, worked and died for OUR Country.

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