Their view: No clear gain in dispute over Falklands

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The following editorial appeared in this week's Washington Post: You know that an Argentine leader must be in political trouble if the subject of the Falkland Islands has come up again.
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paddy

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Mar 27, 2010
 
Tony wrote:
Not everything about England is bad, but England could do more good things to improve their image, such as giving the Rock of Gibraltar back to Spain, giving the Malvinas Islands back to Argentina, and giving Northern Ireland back to Ireland.
What if Irish people like myself wish to remain part of the uk?
what if the people of these other places also wish to do the same as recognised by international law? being apart of the uk as an irish man is not a bad thing, its not a sign of slavery or colonionism, its a sign of an alliance and celebrating the uks rich history between each other. the same as europe? we are in europe aswell as alot of other countries but that does not mean brussels is occupying us. i suppose in the us its like all your states are united, kinda similar in europe but we all speek different languages. we are allies. being under the same banner as another country is not a bad thing, if thats what the population want.
Give back to argentina? it was never argentinas in the first place, argentina didnt exist then. wich is why argentinas claim is crazy and only being brought to the table becuase their own country is failing and full of coruption. So they need to stoke a little national pride by going back to the falklands issue. but it isnt theirs to give back so there is no argument only hypocrisy.
argentina are a colony that has taken over just as much as anyone else in history. the only difference between argentina and the falklands is the fact that the falklands were not inhabited yet by humans and settled upon by the british and what is now know as argentina was invaded by the spanish and occupied to this day.
p.s south americans hate you just as much as they do us. they are just using your inexperienced obama and hilary government now for its own personal gain all the while amercias reputation with all of its allies are failing due to his support and brown nosing of his enemies.
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Mar 27, 2010
 
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I am listening to Deep Purple right now.:)
we like the same music atleat. hehe

have a good un. its all good fun.
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#23
Mar 27, 2010
 
Tony, to give those places back would be bad because it would be against the wishes of the people that live in them. A bit like someone giving the US back to Britain!

I'm not certain about Richard Branson but Zeppelin are cool !
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Mar 27, 2010
 
I am in the process of trying to buy a vineyard and winery in Tuscany, Italy, and soon I may be living there. And I also plan to open a production office at Cinecitta.:)

I support peace in Europe, and I support the European Union.

And I also love the Western Hemisphere, including Argentina. And Europe can benefit from friendships and trade with the Western Hemisphere.

Much can be gained by having friendship and trade instead of wars.
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Mar 27, 2010
 
One idea on the Malvinas Islands would be to give them independence, and let them rule themselves.

I still say that all of Ireland should belong to Ireland, but it must be done peacefully. As soon as the population of Northern Ireland votes to become part of Ireland, the vote must be accepted.

On the issue of the Rock of Gibraltar, maybe England would sell it back to Spain? It could be done peacefully, and England could be paid for it.

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Mar 27, 2010
 
I was at a club in Cocoa Beach, Florida, and Jimmy Page walked in with his guitar in a case, and he pulled out his guitar and he plugged in and he played with the house band, The Groove Monsters, all night. It was amazing. Jimmy Page is truly great, and he is a good man, he does charity work in Brazil. Some people are really great, and Jimmy Page is great.
paddy again

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Mar 28, 2010
 
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I still say that all of Ireland should belong to Ireland, but it must be done peacefully. As soon as the population of Northern Ireland votes to become part of Ireland, the vote must be accepted.
On the issue of the Rock of Gibraltar, maybe England would sell it back to Spain? It could be done peacefully, and England could be paid for it.
tony for god sake im not being rude but you come with the same comment every post when you arnt telling us about royal bloodlines and little vinyards. please if your gonna comment atleast know a little of what your on about.
you really dont understand what you are on about wich is clear from your ireland statements and giving back the falklands statements yet in your next statement you say it should be up to the people who live there. you cant have it both ways tony the people in all of these places are free and happy. give their landd back to argentian when it wasnt theirs in the first place and against the wishes of the people. see the contradictions and usa world police hypocrisy in your posts.
theres no point in trying to talk anymore as you clearly dont understand and just keep coming gack with sell the land give it back etc. you cant be serious.
paddy again

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Mar 28, 2010
 
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I still say that all of Ireland should belong to Ireland, but it must be done peacefully. As soon as the population of Northern Ireland votes to become part of Ireland, the vote must be accepted.
thats just offensive and ignorant i cant even be bothered anymore.

me adn my family back home in northern ireland are irish and ireland belongs to all of us irish. but the north is alsoo part of the uk. you know england scotland ireland and wales. we are all free but flying under one banner.

you come with some bullcrap political statement then mince around talking about a vinyard then post some ramblings about a gig you went to. jesus. you havnt gota clue what your talking about. you might be a nice guy but damn you have no idea what your talking about on this subject.
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Mar 28, 2010
 

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According to the CIA World Factbook Report on Ireland, the GDP per capita is:

Ireland GDP - per capita (PPP):
$42,200 (2009 est.)

The GDP per capita for the UK is:

UK GDP - per capita (PPP):
$35,400 (2009 est.)

The people of Ireland are wealthier than the people of the UK, and the people of Northern Ireland would be wealthier if Ireland was united.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-...

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-...

If the reasoning behind the UK retaining Northern Ireland is that the people of Northern Ireland wish to be part of the UK, then it would be true that Ireland would be united when the people of Northern Irland wish to leave the UK and join Ireland. If the wishes of the people are what matters, then when the people of Northern Ireland vote to become part of Ireland and leave the UK, then the vote must be respected.
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Mar 28, 2010
 
Ethnocentrism can be a barrier to healthy advancement, wise men avoid it.
paddy

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Mar 29, 2010
 
Tony wrote:
If the reasoning behind the UK retaining Northern Ireland is that the people of Northern Ireland wish to be part of the UK, then it would be true that Ireland would be united when the people of Northern Irland wish to leave the UK and join Ireland. If the wishes of the people are what matters, then when the people of Northern Ireland vote to become part of Ireland and leave the UK, then the vote must be respected.
it is tony wich is what is happening now. no matter how many stats you can find, what the people want is what matters wich is what you keep saying its just that when the people dont agree with tony the people are wrong.

and ireland has to do with the falklands situation becuase?
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Mar 29, 2010
 
Tony wrote:
If the reasoning behind the UK retaining Northern Ireland is that the people of Northern Ireland wish to be part of the UK
we do
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then the vote must be respected.
it is can you stop posting dribble yo uhave no clue about.
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Mar 29, 2010
 
The first settlement on the Malvinas Islands was in 1764. It was named Port St. Louis and was founded by the French navigator and military commander Louis Antoine de Bougainville on Berkeley Sound.

Spain acquired the French colony, and after assuming effective control in 1767, placed the islands under a governor subordinate to the Buenos Aires colonial administration.

From 1776 until 1811 Spain maintained a settlement administered from Buenos Aires as part of the Viceroyalty of the Rio de la Plata.

On 6 November 1820, Colonel David Jewett raised the flag of the United Provinces of the River Plate (Argentina) at Port Louis. Jewett was an American sailor and privateer in the employment of Buenos Aires businessman Patrick Lynch to captain his ship, the frigate Heroína (Lynch had obtained a corsair licence from the Buenos Aires Supreme Director José Rondeau).

In 1828 the Argentines founded a settlement and a penal colony.

From Wikipedia.

So the French found and settled the Malvinas Islands before the British, and the French turned the Malvinas Islands over to Spain, and Spain governed the Malvinas Islands from Buenos Aires, and Argentina was given control of the Malvinas Islands from Spain.

Argentina would not be claiming the Malvinas Islands if they did not have a legitimate claim to the Malvinas Islands.
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#35
Mar 29, 2010
 
but what about the rights of the people who live there, afterall you do say in other posts its up to the population of these actual islands to chose and they have. and like you say that has to be respected.
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Mar 29, 2010
 
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From Wikipedia.
lol
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Mar 29, 2010
 
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and Argentina was given control of the Malvinas Islands from Spain.
so it wasnt theirs in the first place is what you are saying?
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Mar 29, 2010
 
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Argentina would not be claiming the Malvinas Islands if they did not have a legitimate claim to the Malvinas Islands.
According to u.n laws they dont have a legitimate claim to the falklands.
might wanna check wikipedia about self determination.
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Mar 29, 2010
 
paddy wrote:
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so it wasnt theirs in the first place is what you are saying?
The Malvinas Islands were not England's in the first place, the Malvinas Islands were first founded and settled by the French, before going to Spain, and then to Argentina.

Argentina has a legitimate case.

By the way, the UK may soon lose Quebec, as there is a growing movement desiring Quebec's sovereignty.
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Mar 30, 2010
 
[QUOTE who="TonyThe Malvinas Islands were not England's in the first place, the Malvinas Islands were first founded and settled by the French, before going to Spain, and then to Argentina.
Argentina has a legitimate case.
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Like I said, so your saying the falklands were not argentinas in the first place?
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Mar 30, 2010
 
Tony wrote:
By the way, the UK may soon lose Quebec, as there is a growing movement desiring Quebec's sovereignty.
Like I said you might want to "wiki" self determination. its up to the people who live in these places. unless they disagree with tony off course.

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