Pinos Altos man killed by mountain lion

Medical investigators say a mountain lion was responsible for the death of a man who had been reported missing. Full Story
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Concerned Parent

United States

#1 Jun 24, 2008
Yep, a lion attacks a boy a few weeks ago, and most of you want to blame the parents. Now one has killed an adult male. Many of you bloggers thought this hardly ever happened, and now this?

I heard on the news that overpopulation of mountain lions is a real possibility. They are running out of food, and decimating other wildlife.

Dangerous animals like this were always hunted by the American Indians, and a natural balance maintained. Now that balance is gone. Same thing happened with alligators in Florida, and they had to reopen hunting season on them.
Rick Hunt

Union Star, MO

#2 Jun 24, 2008
That is a terrable thing to happan but this is life. Than to have an officer to shoot and wound it well that is unexceptal.
Concerned Parent

Mahwah, NJ

#3 Jun 24, 2008
Rick Hunt wrote:
That is a terrable thing to happan but this is life. Than to have an officer to shoot and wound it well that is unexceptal.
Wait. Are you saying that a human dying is just a part of life, but to shoot and accidently wound a dangerous animal is unacceptable? Don't you have that backwards?
Confused

Joplin, MO

#4 Jun 24, 2008
Whatever. If you live in or near wild animal territory, it is implicit that you accept the risk. If you don't like it, move to NYC. I accept the risk of a wild animal attack every time I go on a hike. If I want to be safe from wild animals, I should stay away from where they live.
Rizzo

United States

#5 Jun 24, 2008
Let's see, shaving and bathing, in the woods, no defensive weapons, hungry wildlife, sounds like dinner to me! People who enjoy the outside should be aware, just like walking down central ave, at night, alone. Blame the native population! Someone else has to look out for me cause I know I can't be at fault.
mmm mmm good! Poor Kitty!!

“Down in the Bayou”

Since: Apr 08

Vancleave Mississippi

#6 Jun 24, 2008
here kitty kitty kitty......
Doug

United States

#7 Jun 24, 2008
Rick Hunt wrote:
That is a terrable thing to happan but this is life. Than to have an officer to shoot and wound it well that is unexceptal.
Hey Rick Hunt, I think you need to learn how to spell if you want to judge things and people...
RTX

Albuquerque, NM

#8 Jun 24, 2008
It is time to hunat Lions
RTX

Albuquerque, NM

#9 Jun 24, 2008
Excuse my typo. It is time to hunt Lions.
Concerned Parent

United States

#10 Jun 24, 2008
Confused wrote:
Whatever. If you live in or near wild animal territory, it is implicit that you accept the risk. If you don't like it, move to NYC. I accept the risk of a wild animal attack every time I go on a hike. If I want to be safe from wild animals, I should stay away from where they live.
Oh, so all the many thousands of families that have been living in mountains and around the forest that haven't had a problem before should just move?

It's already been established that the mountain lion populations are higher than ever before. And this guy that was killed was near his home, not out hiking. Hiking out in the wilderness is a completely different issue. Near someone's community is not the wilderness.

Sandia Park been's around for 100 years, Canuel for 200 years, Placitas and many other Spanish communities for up to 400 years, all living near and around forests and mountains. They just built a new community center in San Antonio with playgrounds right NEXT to the wilderness, I guess they need to stop construction and move?

This isn't about us going into their wilderness, this is about them coming out of the wilderness and into human lands. That's why people have seen lions around Tramway more often, they are running out of food. BIG difference.
Concerned Parent

United States

#11 Jun 24, 2008
Daniel in Hobbs wrote:
here kitty kitty kitty......
Do you ever contribute anything useful? Or are you just here to entertain us?
Concerned Parent

United States

#12 Jun 24, 2008
Rizzo wrote:
Let's see, shaving and bathing, in the woods, no defensive weapons, hungry wildlife, sounds like dinner to me! People who enjoy the outside should be aware, just like walking down central ave, at night, alone. Blame the native population! Someone else has to look out for me cause I know I can't be at fault.
mmm mmm good! Poor Kitty!!
Doesn't matter how prepared you are, or how aware. How do you know he didn't have a weapon, and wasn't experienced? Give animals some credit, they can overcome and adapt, and cats are sneaky, clever animals. Even experienced hunters with guns are killed sometimes.
Rizzo

United States

#13 Jun 24, 2008
Concerned Parent wrote:
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Doesn't matter how prepared you are, or how aware. How do you know he didn't have a weapon, and wasn't experienced? Give animals some credit, they can overcome and adapt, and cats are sneaky, clever animals. Even experienced hunters with guns are killed sometimes.
I agree wholeheartedly, I am a hunter, was born and raised in the mtn's of Colorado. I now live in southern NM. We have cats here as well. 2 yr's ago, during a Elk hunt, I had a cat leave a tree, go the other way, thank heavens, not more than 75 feet from me. I still maintain, I was in his realm. He just as well could have waited, and jumped me from his tree! His fault? I think not. But for the grace of god and good luck he might of had "Rizzo" for lunch. I moved onto his territory, not the other way around.
Yankee Yahoo

Mahwah, NJ

#15 Jun 24, 2008
Rizzo wrote:
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I agree wholeheartedly, I am a hunter, was born and raised in the mtn's of Colorado. I now live in southern NM. We have cats here as well. 2 yr's ago, during a Elk hunt, I had a cat leave a tree, go the other way, thank heavens, not more than 75 feet from me. I still maintain, I was in his realm. He just as well could have waited, and jumped me from his tree! His fault? I think not. But for the grace of god and good luck he might of had "Rizzo" for lunch. I moved onto his territory, not the other way around.
Yes, being in their realm in one thing, and I respect hunters immensely for their important contribution to society.

But when they come to playgrounds in schools in my community that never had a problem before, that's quite another. Kids and teachers can't defend themselves. The government took on the job of managing all this, and that means they took the responsibility to monitor and control the wildlife populations instead of the people directly. If that means allowing more hunting to maintain the balance, so be it.

Except that you have a lot of animal rights activists and environmentalists that magically think we humans are not part of nature, and want to exclude us all from enjoying it.
Yankee Yahoo

Mahwah, NJ

#16 Jun 24, 2008
Daniel in Hobbs wrote:
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I'm here to entertain me...if it entertains you then so be it..otherwise...blow it out your shorts..
Oh, I'm not complaining.

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#17 Jun 24, 2008
Concerned Parent wrote:
Yep, a lion attacks a boy a few weeks ago, and most of you want to blame the parents. Now one has killed an adult male. Many of you bloggers thought this hardly ever happened, and now this?
I heard on the news that overpopulation of mountain lions is a real possibility. They are running out of food, and decimating other wildlife.
Dangerous animals like this were always hunted by the American Indians, and a natural balance maintained. Now that balance is gone. Same thing happened with alligators in Florida, and they had to reopen hunting season on them.
IMHO, you've got it backwards. It is humans that are overpopulating and decimating wildlife. This man's death is tragic, but these incidents ARE relatively rare.
Mother Earth

Albuquerque, NM

#18 Jun 24, 2008
Me and my friend came upon a mountain lion when we were climbing down mountain up in cloudcroft area where the tunnel lives. That was scary. Mountain lion looked at us stupid. LMAO. Was to busy sunning on the rocks. We moved away slowly and climbed back up. Whew that was scary but awesome. Now, the way I see there getting hungry with all the mountain fires and people moving in taking away there feeding grounds. I say we have enough people destroying our forrest. Let the people live there now that are there but I say no more building or cutting down the forrest so these animals have enough feeding grounds to survive on. shruggs
Mother Earth

Albuquerque, NM

#19 Jun 24, 2008
Oops, typo on tunnel lives, it's tunnel is. LMAO. Ok ok, I havn't had my coffee. btw, my condolences to the family of this man.
Yankee Yahoo

Mahwah, NJ

#20 Jun 24, 2008
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text> IMHO, you've got it backwards. It is humans that are overpopulating and decimating wildlife. This man's death is tragic, but these incidents ARE relatively rare.
Absolutely incorrect, and a typical, narrow-minded point of view. We are one of the LEAST populated countries compared to it's size, and produce enough food to feed a billion people worldwide. New Mexico is one of the LEAST populated states in the nation.

A billion people live in India, and yet they still have so much wildlife that people are killed by the thousands by lions, elephants, and even wild bulls. 280 million people live scattered across hundreds of islands known as Indonesia, and they still find new species on those islands, and unexplored places.

Yes, these incidents are rare, but they seem to be increasing as the mountain lion population grows and less food is available to them. I HOPE this is not the case, and maybe the boy and this man will be the only ones for years to come. But we should investigate the situation, talk to our government people, and be prepared.

“Not a fan of big government”

Since: Apr 08

Dallas

#21 Jun 24, 2008
Rick Hunt wrote:
That is a terrable thing to happan but this is life. Than to have an officer to shoot and wound it well that is unexceptal.
You're a dumb nut liberal.

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