access to lindenlure swimming hole

access to lindenlure swimming hole

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local

Spokane, MO

#1 Dec 14, 2011
What an interesting story in Ozark paper :The homeowners at lindenlure in conjunction with the sheriff's department put up No Tresspassing signs,saying they own the rocks leading up to the river.This goes smack in the face of decades of case law,something their lawyer chose to ignore.And the sheriff has no right to get involved,legally.While I understand their concerns,Iwould not live there if you gave to me,but the law is the law.
MrsBliss

Forsyth, MO

#2 Dec 14, 2011
Interesting, another case of people not taking responsibility for their actions. They knew or should have known it was a popular swimming hole before, an now want to take action to stop it. How crappy is that?
Another Local

Rogersville, MO

#3 Dec 15, 2011
Maybe if the loud drunks blasting crappy music didn't take over the area and maybe if people cleaned up after themselves, the homeowners wouldn't mind allowing access. Who is expected to clean up after everyone visits their favorite swimming hole? Too many people leave trash behind. Who wants that in their back yard or in the river?
I live on a different part of the Finley and even when people are given permission to access the river from our property, they leave trash behind. It only takes a few to ruin it for all. Too many people don't even notice they've left trash behind.
MrsBliss

Forsyth, MO

#4 Dec 15, 2011
Again, I have been going to linden for 20 years. This is not a new thing. Trashy people have been trashy people for decades.
Another Local

Rogersville, MO

#5 Dec 16, 2011
Just because it has been allowed in the past, does not mean it should be allowed to continue. If trashy people had just started hanging out recently, would it be okay to close it off? Unacceptable behavior is unacceptable regardless of when it started. If people really wanted to keep this open, they should have helped clean it up. Add to that the risk of lawsuits the landowners face. The person who sues may not win, but it could cost a fortune to defend oneself from some idiot who thinks the landowner is responsible for an injury because the landowner allowed him access.
MrsBliss

Forsyth, MO

#6 Dec 16, 2011
Go ahead keep justifying the unjustifiable. It's boils down to personal responsibility, and the home owners have none.
Jimmy

United States

#7 Dec 19, 2011
I'm hosting a Clam Jam at the creek in May! Were going to eat local clams found in the river. You can also bring your own clams, but be ready to share your clams with everyone...don't be stingy with those juicy little crustaceans. More details to come!
Another Local

Rogersville, MO

#8 Dec 20, 2011
You are justifying people being trashy. You don't have room to preach about unjustifiable actions.
The homeowners seem to be taking responsibility for care of the river while you want to defend everyone else's right to pollute it.
FACT

United States

#9 Dec 20, 2011
They can't keep you off the river. They don't own it and the land up to the high water mark. They knew that when they bought a place on the river.
Another Local

Rogersville, MO

#10 Dec 21, 2011
Fact: They do not have to let you cross their property to reach the river.
They knew when they bought the property that it was a popular swimming hole. People have the legal right to be on the river. That does not mean people should abuse that right and infringe on others' enjoyment of the river.
It seems like littereing is breaking the law, but everyone wants to overlook that little law because it is more imiportant that everybody have access to the river anywhere they want.
Crusty

Ava, MO

#11 Dec 21, 2011
The Home-owner's Lawyer must know that they are over-stepping the law by restricting access to a public waterway. The last time I checked, Canyon Dr. is a public road and paid for by the county tax-payers. Also, painting rocks in the waterway is certainly a stretch in claiming ownership. And by claiming ownership would also leave them open to liability for injuries.
I understand their frustration with the undesirable element that frequents the area and the mess these people leave behind.
Apparently, the Home-owners have had enough and are ready to take the issue to court. It will be interesting to see how the Judge rules on the Home-owner's rights versus the Public's.
The only real solution I can see is full-time Police or Conservation Agent patrol of the area during the summer months. But who is going to pay for that? It will be interesting to see how this develops.
Another Local

Rogersville, MO

#12 Dec 21, 2011
If it is a county maintained road leading to the river and the county has the easement rights for that road, then the homeowners probably would not have anything to go to court with.
The state actually holds title to the river itself (up to normal high water mark) and is also responsible for providing public access to the river. Should the state be paying the county for maintaining this access?
Linden Lover

Fort Madison, IA

#13 May 28, 2012
Guys please visit FREE LINDEN DOT COM for information on how to fight this.
Missouri friend

Ozark, MO

#14 May 28, 2012
Love the fliers everywhere.Good job.
river lover

Springfield, MO

#15 Jun 22, 2012
The bottom line is you can not own a river.
I understand that there are some shady people who go there to swim, but that is everywhere.

The tresspassing signs are unenforcable. There is public access to the river, if you enter through the public access and walk up the river there is nothing they can do unless you enter onto the bank and onto their property.

We all know that it stinks when people leave trash in a river, on a roadway and even in your yard. I find trash in my yard all the time that people throw out of their cars. That does not give me the right to keep anyone from driving in front of my house.

I have been going to Linden for years and it is one of a handful of places you can access to swim in the river. I don't care if there is a law enforcement presence but it seems a waste to have them trying to enforce this no tresspassing when it contradicts state law. Those home owners can simply not own a river bed or the river itself.
ducklicious

Branson, MO

#16 Mar 28, 2013
Has anyone ever seen those white albino geese that hide behind the dock up above the dam? Gorgeous simply gorgeous
tater tot

Branson, MO

#17 Mar 29, 2013
I heard they were slaying the white bass just below green bridge has anyone else heard this
Missouri Raised

Cedar Rapids, IA

#18 Jun 27, 2013
I was raised on the banks of that river I learned to swim , love and enjoy life there now I live in the city and take my kids there if it wasn't for that river I probably wouldn't have become a decent father or responsible member of society and FYI every time I go I do help clean it up bexause I love that place I atleast half fill my pick up bed with trash and debri I pick up from there so for all you snobby people grow up and be human
Just a question

United States

#19 Jul 24, 2013
So did it pass are we allowed to access the river? I love the place also, my daughter learned to swim there and we have had plenty of family picnics and pictures taken there. It's a beautiful place. I understand the frustration of people being tired of the trash, but please don't let it ruin it for people like my family who make sure to clean our messes and really truly enjoy the river.
wes martin

Kansas City, KS

#20 Oct 16, 2013
I was denied access twice this summer when the river was high.....what a bunch of bs

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