Wht are young people so lazy and disrespectful today?

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Since: Sep 08

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#1 Sep 24, 2008
I am curious, why are so many young people (teens-late twenties) so lazy and disrespectful today? There are plenty of job openings here in Wyoming County, yet our young people will not work! Why? O.K., the jobs may not pay that much, but at least its a start. They can work their way up to a better paying job, right? The Department of Highways has 18 job openings, Pin Oak has job openings, as does every coal company that operates in Wyoming County. Our older workers are nearing retirement; who will fill their slots? My husband has had the same job for almost 25 years. The young people who do work switch jobs every 25 days!
Too many young people want a job, but want to start a the top, or they want a job with all the work picked out of it! They think they are going to be rich and famous, or marry someone who is rich and famous. They are in for a rude awakening! The real world awaits them.
Who is to blame for this generation of sorry young people? Their parents? Their teachers? The church? The media? You? Me?
My children have always had to EARN everything that they've gotten!
Another thing, so many of today's young people are idiots! Who's fault is that?
I'm just curious.
Just Curious

Denver, CO

#2 Sep 24, 2008
Why work when the state will pay for everything for you. Thats the mentality in wyoming county. Where have you been the past 50 years or so?

Dont get me wrong, I love southern WV, born and raised in Pineville. But im out of that area now and things are a lot different once you get past Beckley and Charleston.

Yeah, there might be jobs there, but there are better jobs that pay twice as much out of the area. Nobody wants to leave, but they dont want to work at Fas Check either, so they sit on the couch and collect their check every month.

Its the new American Dream!!!!

"Let the people that are stupid enough to work for a living,(like you and me and your husband) pay for all my stuff while i sit here and stuff my face on the couch!"

Thats why young people are so lazy. Because they CAN be...

Since: May 08

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#3 Sep 24, 2008
The Blue Rose wrote:
I am curious, why are so many young people (teens-late twenties) so lazy and disrespectful today? There are plenty of job openings here in Wyoming County, yet our young people will not work! Why? O.K., the jobs may not pay that much, but at least its a start. They can work their way up to a better paying job, right? The Department of Highways has 18 job openings, Pin Oak has job openings, as does every coal company that operates in Wyoming County. Our older workers are nearing retirement; who will fill their slots? My husband has had the same job for almost 25 years. The young people who do work switch jobs every 25 days!
Too many young people want a job, but want to start a the top, or they want a job with all the work picked out of it! They think they are going to be rich and famous, or marry someone who is rich and famous. They are in for a rude awakening! The real world awaits them.
Who is to blame for this generation of sorry young people? Their parents? Their teachers? The church? The media? You? Me?
My children have always had to EARN everything that they've gotten!
Another thing, so many of today's young people are idiots! Who's fault is that?
I'm just curious.
It does seem that way doesn't it?... There are a lot of young folks like that today... However: There are a lot of fine young folks out there also...But to you're point...You CAN talk to a lot of employers out there and they will tell you that a lot of this age group will take a job until they get one paycheck to pay a particular bill or buy their pills and then quit... and I'm not just talking about low paying jobs either...I guess this is what they mean by thirty being the new twenty and forty being the new thirty ... It takes them ten to twenty years at least to get off their behinds and try to get a job...
While I'm ranting on why do so many of them want to stay home with their parents in their late twenties and thirties?....Generations before them couldn't wait to get out on their own, have their own place, their own cars, and own income....It has to be parents...Why should they leave home? Where is the incentive... as has been mentioned, they have their needs met... Mom and Dad give them gas money, or spending money, feed them and clothe them, and provide them with food and shelter.. If our parents had done all of that, we wouldn't have left home either..

I hope this economy doesn't go in the tank... Our young people will get some hard lessons really fast..

Since: Jun 08

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#4 Sep 24, 2008
...Daddy & Mommy spoil Junior & Sissy. It's really that simply...Daddy works everyday (maybe off on Sunday) at the mines. Mommy is the ideal homemaker (getting the kids off to school, preparing their meals, doing their laundry, getting Daddy off to work. Well, you get the picture). Junior & Sissy have a new automobile, designer clothes, the latest video games, a cell phone, an ipod!, cash, and maybe access to a bank account & credit card. All at Daddy & Mommy's expense...Junior & Sissy have no reason to EVER want to work. If you give your teenager $50.00 a day (as some miner's wives do), that teenager will have no incentive to work. That teenager will believe the world owes him/her a living...

...I know miners who have worked since they were 13 years old---Their sons are mid-thirties and never had a job. Daddy will have to work his entire life, just to support Junior...That, my friends, is why so many coal miners can NEVER retire---They are supporting their deadbeat children...

...Parents have spoiled their sons & daughters, and now those offspring cannot shove their finger up their ass without Mommy's help. They need Daddy to "fix" their problems. Mommy & Daddy are to blame for all those disrespectful, lazy brats! YOU SPOILED THEM!...

Since: Jun 08

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#5 Sep 24, 2008
Shootist wrote:
<quoted text>It does seem that way doesn't it?... There are a lot of young folks like that today... However: There are a lot of fine young folks out there also...But to you're point...You CAN talk to a lot of employers out there and they will tell you that a lot of this age group will take a job until they get one paycheck to pay a particular bill or buy their pills and then quit... and I'm not just talking about low paying jobs either...I guess this is what they mean by thirty being the new twenty and forty being the new thirty ... It takes them ten to twenty years at least to get off their behinds and try to get a job...
While I'm ranting on why do so many of them want to stay home with their parents in their late twenties and thirties?....Generations before them couldn't wait to get out on their own, have their own place, their own cars, and own income....It has to be parents...Why should they leave home? Where is the incentive... as has been mentioned, they have their needs met... Mom and Dad give them gas money, or spending money, feed them and clothe them, and provide them with food and shelter.. If our parents had done all of that, we wouldn't have left home either..
I hope this economy doesn't go in the tank... Our young people will get some hard lessons really fast..
...Shootist, the "work until you get a first paycheck, then quit" mentality is rampant here in this county. That, of course, costs an employeer (and taxpayers) untold amounts of wasted cash (the training isn't cheap, you know)...

...Yes, our young people have a lot of lessons to learn---And, they'll learn them all the hard way!...

...Too many young men (maybe women, too) cannot get that coal-mining job because they cannot pass a drug test!(Offtopix: too many young coal miners slip through the drug test, then continue snorting pills. Some do their pills while underground. That really scares the hell out of me!)...Those young coal miners who work every day (and snort pills every night) will never have anything to show for their hard work! They simply don't get it...

...And, yes, the young people need to get the hell away from Mommy & Daddy! They need to live their own lives...And make their own mistakes (and clean up their own mistakes)... Cut that cord and experience life!...

Since: May 08

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#6 Sep 24, 2008
THE GAY GUY wrote:
<quoted text>...Shootist, the "work until you get a first paycheck, then quit" mentality is rampant here in this county. That, of course, costs an employeer (and taxpayers) untold amounts of wasted cash (the training isn't cheap, you know)...
...Yes, our young people have a lot of lessons to learn---And, they'll learn them all the hard way!...
...Too many young men (maybe women, too) cannot get that coal-mining job because they cannot pass a drug test!(Offtopix: too many young coal miners slip through the drug test, then continue snorting pills. Some do their pills while underground. That really scares the hell out of me!)...Those young coal miners who work every day (and snort pills every night) will never have anything to show for their hard work! They simply don't get it...
...And, yes, the young people need to get the hell away from Mommy & Daddy! They need to live their own lives...And make their own mistakes (and clean up their own mistakes)... Cut that cord and experience life!...
Exactly...If parents keep bailing them out of every mistake they make in life (like it's a grade school problem, or a sports problem,or whatever) then they will never straighten up and be on their own.... Again.. no incentive to do so... they have that "golden parachute" or "all day suckers" called parents to get them out of it..

Since: Apr 08

United States

#7 Sep 24, 2008
I also think we are going through a period where the parents are trying so hard to be "better" parents to their children than their parents were to them. To give their children things that they didn't have and let them have all of the chances and opportunities that they did not have as children.
I have a young child and I see so many disturbing trends in parenting. I have seen parents PAY their child to do well at sporting events! I can not begin to say how bad I think this is and the horrible ideals and beliefs I feel it would put into a child.
Also, if kids have a spat (and we all know that happens all the time) parents no longer butt out like they should. They get involved and make it a huge deal, when, if they would have just let it be, it would have been no big deal.
And so many parents think their child can do NO wrong.
That is a very small list of the things that I believe leads to spoiled children and adults who think the world revolves around them.
hub

United States

#8 Sep 24, 2008
Excellent points by all. It's our fault. When every kid on the team gets a trophy where's the incentive to acheive. When money is handed over without receiving anything in return, where's the incentive to work.
We've screwed the pooch with this generation and I think some very hard life lessons are in store for them.

Since: May 08

Good Ole West Virginee!!

#9 Sep 24, 2008
THE GAY GUY wrote:
...Daddy & Mommy spoil Junior & Sissy. It's really that simply...Daddy works everyday (maybe off on Sunday) at the mines. Mommy is the ideal homemaker (getting the kids off to school, preparing their meals, doing their laundry, getting Daddy off to work. Well, you get the picture). Junior & Sissy have a new automobile, designer clothes, the latest video games, a cell phone, an ipod!, cash, and maybe access to a bank account & credit card. All at Daddy & Mommy's expense...Junior & Sissy have no reason to EVER want to work. If you give your teenager $50.00 a day (as some miner's wives do), that teenager will have no incentive to work. That teenager will believe the world owes him/her a living...
...I know miners who have worked since they were 13 years old---Their sons are mid-thirties and never had a job. Daddy will have to work his entire life, just to support Junior...That, my friends, is why so many coal miners can NEVER retire---They are supporting their deadbeat children...
...Parents have spoiled their sons & daughters, and now those offspring cannot shove their finger up their ass without Mommy's help. They need Daddy to "fix" their problems. Mommy & Daddy are to blame for all those disrespectful, lazy brats! YOU SPOILED THEM!...
Amen, Amen, & Amen!!! You hit the nail on the head with that one GG. It IS the parents fault that their children is so darn lazy, and they may not had meant for it to pan out that way, but it has. My son is grown and he has worked since he was in his sophmore year of high school, and he continues to work. I instilled that in him and he knew to work, or he didn't get the things he wanted. I was raised that if I wanted something out of life then I had to work for it, and that is how I have also raised my son. There are to many young ones today that think life is a free ride and want something for nothing. Boy, is the world gonna bite them in the ass when Mommy and Daddy are gone, huh??LOL...I have noticed big time just how disrespectful most teenagers and even young children are to their parents, and the public. Now you tell me where all of that lies? It lies with the parents!! To many parents try to be their childs best friend and not their parent, and a child needs guidance first and foremost, and then friendship, in my opinion. I loved my son and still do, but I DID NOT spoil him and give him everything. If he wanted a new dirt bike, car, or what have you, then he worked and paid for it himself!! My son is 28 now and he even talks about how lazy the kids of today are, and how they WILL not work. I will agree with Shootist that there are some good kids, but few and far between!! It is scary for one to think that this new generation of today is what America is going to live under in the future, isn't it??

Since: Jun 08

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#10 Sep 25, 2008
THE GAY GUY wrote:
...Daddy & Mommy spoil Junior & Sissy. It's really that simply...Daddy works everyday (maybe off on Sunday) at the mines. Mommy is the ideal homemaker (getting the kids off to school, preparing their meals, doing their laundry, getting Daddy off to work. Well, you get the picture). Junior & Sissy have a new automobile, designer clothes, the latest video games, a cell phone, an ipod!, cash, and maybe access to a bank account & credit card. All at Daddy & Mommy's expense...Junior & Sissy have no reason to EVER want to work. If you give your teenager $50.00 a day (as some miner's wives do), that teenager will have no incentive to work. That teenager will believe the world owes him/her a living...
...I know miners who have worked since they were 13 years old---Their sons are mid-thirties and never had a job. Daddy will have to work his entire life, just to support Junior...That, my friends, is why so many coal miners can NEVER retire---They are supporting their deadbeat children...
...Parents have spoiled their sons & daughters, and now those offspring cannot shove their finger up their ass without Mommy's help. They need Daddy to "fix" their problems. Mommy & Daddy are to blame for all those disrespectful, lazy brats! YOU SPOILED THEM!...
I REALLY try to "NOT"
to do this..I agree one hundred percentw/you..GG. My son can't have a cell phone and My hubby and I dont have one. I try to stay clear of material-izms if you will. I try to give him chores everyday. I had a sister tell me we're too hard on the kid....She told me he might get depressed and kill himself. That pissed me off. She doesn't think her kids should do anything... no chores.
I did chores when I was growing up and it was so much harder than what my son has ever done. I wanted things and to get them I had to work. He will have to also... Oh! I didn't kill myself either.... I still resent her for saying that to me...I'll get over it.:)
People think that their kids are more fragil than they are! I believe if we love our children we should NOT give them everything nor think that they are incapable of doing for them selves. Youngin's need to be taught how to work so they can stick their fingers in the south end w/out mommy.LOL!

Since: Jun 08

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#11 Sep 25, 2008
The Blue Rose wrote:
I am curious, why are so many young people (teens-late twenties) so lazy and disrespectful today? There are plenty of job openings here in Wyoming County, yet our young people will not work! Why? O.K., the jobs may not pay that much, but at least its a start. They can work their way up to a better paying job, right? The Department of Highways has 18 job openings, Pin Oak has job openings, as does every coal company that operates in Wyoming County. Our older workers are nearing retirement; who will fill their slots? My husband has had the same job for almost 25 years. The young people who do work switch jobs every 25 days!
Too many young people want a job, but want to start a the top, or they want a job with all the work picked out of it! They think they are going to be rich and famous, or marry someone who is rich and famous. They are in for a rude awakening! The real world awaits them.
Who is to blame for this generation of sorry young people? Their parents? Their teachers? The church? The media? You? Me?
My children have always had to EARN everything that they've gotten!
Another thing, so many of today's young people are idiots! Who's fault is that?
I'm just curious.
I think.. you know the answers to all of these questions :).....But I, oh! so! AGREE, that kids need to know, that if they get extra "anything" that they are the ones who have to work to get it. I refuse to buy certain things for my kid. I buy the clothes, shoes and food, the rest he has to get. He has bought some of his shoes....but back to what you mentioned... I think it is everyones fault not just the parents. We had to do so much more at home just to make it. Money was tighter, The adults aren't responsible these days. The preachers aren't responsible these days. Our politicians etc.. no one wants to be a roll model...we all want to play now and never pay..later! I can get married, if I dont like it..DIVORCE. I can get a job ...dont like it quit get another one. On and On it goes. Nothing is worth keeping, not even the kids, it is that saying "what about me" that has society in a down fall. ME! ME! ME! and what I want. "If I cant pay for it let the bank have back"...look at where that attitude has us right now. If the "Me" mentality would go back to thinking about each other! Stop all of this self centered thinking. I believe we all would be better off. Society needs an over-haul!
winner77

United States

#12 Sep 25, 2008
How many of you got a car when you turned 16? And if you did get a car was it a new one? Did you pay for it yourself? How many of you as parents blamed the teachers for your children for getting bad grades? The blame game started years ago when nobody, child or adult would take responsibility for what they had done. If you had a rough childhood it was your parents fault that you robbed a bank as a adult, if you got drunk and killed somebody it was the bartender's fault for serving you, on and on and on. We wonder why the world is in the shape it's in, it's because it's everybody eles's fault.

Since: Sep 08

Winterville, NC

#13 Sep 25, 2008
Real life will hit them hard when mommy and daddy are dead with old age and they are middle age and no one will hire them because they have no work experience.

I really think that in another 10 to 15 years the suicide rate in this country will sky rocket.

Since: May 08

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#14 Sep 25, 2008
winner77 wrote:
How many of you got a car when you turned 16? And if you did get a car was it a new one? Did you pay for it yourself? How many of you as parents blamed the teachers for your children for getting bad grades? The blame game started years ago when nobody, child or adult would take responsibility for what they had done. If you had a rough childhood it was your parents fault that you robbed a bank as a adult, if you got drunk and killed somebody it was the bartender's fault for serving you, on and on and on. We wonder why the world is in the shape it's in, it's because it's everybody eles's fault.
Right.. they don't know what responsibility is.

Since: Jun 08

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#15 Sep 25, 2008
winner77 wrote:
How many of you got a car when you turned 16? And if you did get a car was it a new one? Did you pay for it yourself? How many of you as parents blamed the teachers for your children for getting bad grades? The blame game started years ago when nobody, child or adult would take responsibility for what they had done. If you had a rough childhood it was your parents fault that you robbed a bank as a adult, if you got drunk and killed somebody it was the bartender's fault for serving you, on and on and on. We wonder why the world is in the shape it's in, it's because it's everybody eles's fault.
Yeah it's me, me, me, until it comes to being responsible. Then like you say it is always someone else's fault.LOL!

“ Wishin I was on the beach!”

Since: Sep 08

Some beach, somewhere....

#16 Sep 25, 2008
I agree that most kids have it way too easy today. I will admit that all of my kids got brand new cars when they got their license. I signed for the loans, thats all. They all had jobs and made their own payments knowing I would not let them give me bad credit, if one payment was missed the car would be sold... none were. You can bet they took a lot better care of their cars than the kids did whose parents had bought them cars.

I never gave them money for good grades either!

Today I have 4 successful kids with college degrees, or in the process of getting them. Spoiling them today just sets them up for failure later in life.

Give a man a fish he will eat today.... teach a man to fish and he will eat for the rest of his life!!!

Since: Aug 08

Pineville, WV

#17 Sep 25, 2008
Shootist wrote:
<quoted text>It does seem that way doesn't it?... There are a lot of young folks like that today... However: There are a lot of fine young folks out there also...But to you're point...You CAN talk to a lot of employers out there and they will tell you that a lot of this age group will take a job until they get one paycheck to pay a particular bill or buy their pills and then quit... and I'm not just talking about low paying jobs either...I guess this is what they mean by thirty being the new twenty and forty being the new thirty ... It takes them ten to twenty years at least to get off their behinds and try to get a job...
While I'm ranting on why do so many of them want to stay home with their parents in their late twenties and thirties?....Generations before them couldn't wait to get out on their own, have their own place, their own cars, and own income....It has to be parents...Why should they leave home? Where is the incentive... as has been mentioned, they have their needs met... Mom and Dad give them gas money, or spending money, feed them and clothe them, and provide them with food and shelter.. If our parents had done all of that, we wouldn't have left home either..
I hope this economy doesn't go in the tank... Our young people will get some hard lessons really fast..
Why do they want to stay home that long? Cause you gotta have at least 30k per year to survive comfortably anymore. 20k will get your rent and bills paid and yourself fed for the year, other than that NO DISPOSABLE INCOME. So rent free until 30k+ or nothing but work/sleep/eat and repeat.

Since: Aug 08

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#18 Sep 25, 2008
winner77 wrote:
How many of you got a car when you turned 16? And if you did get a car was it a new one? Did you pay for it yourself? How many of you as parents blamed the teachers for your children for getting bad grades? The blame game started years ago when nobody, child or adult would take responsibility for what they had done. If you had a rough childhood it was your parents fault that you robbed a bank as a adult, if you got drunk and killed somebody it was the bartender's fault for serving you, on and on and on. We wonder why the world is in the shape it's in, it's because it's everybody eles's fault.
My son got a used car for $700 when he turned 16 & got his license because I only had one car and if he was gone in it I was stuck at home. I paid for his car because his job was to get good grades. It all worked out fine. I don't know what the ratio is but I think how a child turns out is a combination of genes, environment, and upbringing (& probably some other things). How else do you explain children in the same family turning out differently.

Since: May 08

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#19 Sep 25, 2008
The-Real-Duh wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do they want to stay home that long? Cause you gotta have at least 30k per year to survive comfortably anymore. 20k will get your rent and bills paid and yourself fed for the year, other than that NO DISPOSABLE INCOME. So rent free until 30k+ or nothing but work/sleep/eat and repeat.
Survive uncomfortably... When I started out for example.. I sat in a trailer sometimes for four or five days until payday, living from paycheck to paycheck.... Like the song goes..Catsup soup, crackers and kool aid.
I think that is the point of others here are making Duh.. You can't start out at the top... You have to start low and go up.
rosebud3

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#20 Sep 25, 2008
The reason they are so disrespectful the parents have to much going on in their life to really buckle down on their children at least that the way it is with me ,and the school system tell the children about all this shit and Have you scared to death to correct them I had my daughter threaten me one morning that she was going to the counceler because I was making her go to school because she had headache and I made her go to school she was on meds I had taken her to the doc 2 days befores that she just did't want to go to school. I have a friend that her daughter told the counceler that her mother pulled her by the arm and it was reported CPA and CPA came to their home .They found nothing not a place on the child they found nothing in the home that any abuse was going on.We are in between a rock and hard place when it comes to correcting our children. I'm so thankful now my parents made me mind and busted my ass when I needed it it has made me the women I am today. I was taught morals, respect....Theres a difference between a spanking thatn a beating...

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