Henry

Georgetown, KY

#362 Sep 6, 2011
Best I can make out, Loris post above is telling us that John Slusher is no more guilty than John Gotti. You just don't hear Gottis farts as easily.
Repo The Courthouse

United States

#363 Sep 7, 2011
In Pineville, the worst thing you can be guilty of is getting caught.
jailbird

Pine Knot, KY

#364 Sep 7, 2011
i was in LCDC and seen Mr.Slusher myself. He was given a 2.2 million dollar bond, which he made and the feds decided he was a threat and a flight risk. They decided to hold him without bond. Seemed like a pretty good fellar to me.
Perry Mason

United States

#365 Sep 7, 2011
He made bond and then was denied bond? Maybe the wife was afraid he'd leave the country with the money and the girlfriend. She'd miss the money.
jailbird

Pine Knot, KY

#366 Sep 7, 2011
his orginal bond was 2.2 million. when his legal team presented this to the lcdc the feds decided he should be held without bond. total bullcrap if you ask me.

“Prepare For Mayhem”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#367 Sep 7, 2011
Don't judges usually set the bond? Say, do you know this fellar personally? Look on the bright side. He'll get credit for time served.
Mofo

Macon, GA

#368 Sep 7, 2011
BringBackMonk wrote:
<quoted text>
Another in-crowd member. So, your theory is that John Slusher never had any gambling operations in any of his properties in or around Pineville? Those machines I saw with my own eyes were just there for "entertainment", right? Backpedal all you want but you can't get away with that one. I'm surprised you admit John Slusher even exists.
I don't have any theories, Randall, all I have is facts.

And it is a fact that John Slusher did not build his real estate holdings off of gambling. Or anything else illegal, for that matter.

And it is also a fact that gambling machines had nothing to do with the banker friend you mentioned. That fellow had a problem that was much bigger than any trouble you could get into playing a poker machine or betting a parley card.

I'm not backpedaling on anything old friend.

all ears

Hazard, KY

#369 Sep 7, 2011
i heard Slusher was living in San Diego until his trial comes up, if it does. They're thinking of dropping charges because of insufficient evidence!
Camo Gal

United States

#370 Sep 7, 2011
Check again. He's still in jail. Where do people come up with this? No bond. I'm not saying anything bad about him, but I'm saying yet again he is still in LCDC. Check for yourself.
perot

United States

#371 Sep 7, 2011
all ears wrote:
i heard Slusher was living in San Diego until his trial comes up, if it does. They're thinking of dropping charges because of insufficient evidence!
All ears - and nothing in between.
Overruled

United States

#372 Sep 7, 2011
Mofo wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't have any theories, Randall, all I have is facts.
And it is a fact that John Slusher did not build his real estate holdings off of gambling. Or anything else illegal, for that matter.
And it is also a fact that gambling machines had nothing to do with the banker friend you mentioned. That fellow had a problem that was much bigger than any trouble you could get into playing a poker machine or betting a parley card.
I'm not backpedaling on anything old friend.
If you have all those "facts" on John, maybe the feds should be talking to you. They seem to think otherwise but maybe you could save the taxpayers - and John - some money by straightening this all out. You keep trying to split hairs - kinda like a lawyer. If a government agent were to ask you if John ever had any gambling machines of any kind in his properties, are you ready to make a statement that he didn't? Remember the penalty for lying. This isn't wink and nod time in the local court. These boys play kinda rough. But bite off as much as you can chew.

And the "old friend" part doesn't ring true, either, does it?
Money Laundering

Fulton, KY

#373 Sep 7, 2011
Good Business wrote:
People who work hard, earn money in business and always pay their bills on time earn respect from their bankers. John has the respect of many bankers, and it all came from completely legal business transactions and operations. Something most of the posters here know nothing about.
Can you say "Money Laundering"!?!?

“Either #1 Or Off By One”

Since: Dec 10

San Antonio, TX

#374 Sep 7, 2011
Here's how its done. You take the "clean" money you have and invest in property, businesses, etc. All perfectly legal. This is what the Slusher fans keep pointing to.

What they don't tell you is the rest of the story. Let's say you have a substantial income from less legitimate sources. You can't just throw around large sums of unexplained cash and not get noticed. So you inflate the income on a legal enterprise, pay your taxes, and - presto - dirty money becomes clean. Old trick the mobsters used.

People use lots of complicated transactions to try to muddy the water. Let's say you have 6 rental properites but only 4 are occupied. You report income from all 6 anyway. Or you let somebody who works for you have cheap rent but you report full price. Or you have a business that loses money but you claim a profit. Feds have seen this all before. Takes time but they can and will unravel the paper trail. Smarter guys than John with smarter lawyers helping them have been caught.

The real funny part here is that after all this clever planning it was something that happened in another town, something that couldn't have been anticipated, something John had no control over that got the ball rolling. Guess John forgot to pay off Lady Luck. Probably the only woman he never spent money on.
FOXY

Harrison, AR

#375 Sep 8, 2011
slusher is a sly old fox...he'll walk out of this mess looking better than he ever has!!
LilPinevilleGal

Richmond, KY

#376 Sep 8, 2011
election_coach wrote:
Here's how its done. You take the "clean" money you have and invest in property, businesses, etc. All perfectly legal. This is what the Slusher fans keep pointing to.
What they don't tell you is the rest of the story. Let's say you have a substantial income from less legitimate sources. You can't just throw around large sums of unexplained cash and not get noticed. So you inflate the income on a legal enterprise, pay your taxes, and - presto - dirty money becomes clean. Old trick the mobsters used.
People use lots of complicated transactions to try to muddy the water. Let's say you have 6 rental properites but only 4 are occupied. You report income from all 6 anyway. Or you let somebody who works for you have cheap rent but you report full price. Or you have a business that loses money but you claim a profit. Feds have seen this all before. Takes time but they can and will unravel the paper trail. Smarter guys than John with smarter lawyers helping them have been caught.
The real funny part here is that after all this clever planning it was something that happened in another town, something that couldn't have been anticipated, something John had no control over that got the ball rolling. Guess John forgot to pay off Lady Luck. Probably the only woman he never spent money on.
Thanks for the 'business 101' tips. I didn't know you could do all that, I bet a lot of other people didn't either. Now we do.

“Either #1 Or Off By One”

Since: Dec 10

San Antonio, TX

#377 Sep 8, 2011
Actually, its "Federal Time 101". When you get up to the graduate level, you'll find out the trick is - getting away with it.
LilPinevilleGal

Richmond, KY

#378 Sep 8, 2011
election_coach wrote:
Actually, its "Federal Time 101". When you get up to the graduate level, you'll find out the trick is - getting away with it.
That's a good one!
Mofo

Macon, GA

#379 Sep 8, 2011
Overruled wrote:
<quoted text>
If you have all those "facts" on John, maybe the feds should be talking to you. They seem to think otherwise but maybe you could save the taxpayers - and John - some money by straightening this all out. You keep trying to split hairs - kinda like a lawyer. If a government agent were to ask you if John ever had any gambling machines of any kind in his properties, are you ready to make a statement that he didn't? Remember the penalty for lying. This isn't wink and nod time in the local court. These boys play kinda rough. But bite off as much as you can chew.
And the "old friend" part doesn't ring true, either, does it?
First of all, Randall, you are not a federal agent, as much as you may believe you are in your little topix fantasy world.

And if you were, I would have no hesitation whatsoever in talking to you about any of this.

But more importantly, you keep referring back to the "feds" to back up your assertions about gambling and every other vice you want to hang on John Slusher, but the FACT is that nothing the feds have done backs up anything you are saying, except if you are saying something about 4 motorcycles.

And all of this talk of money laundering is way off base too. The whole "laundering" idea is that he took the profits from the illigitimate sale of 4 motorcycles and tried to legitimize it. It has nothing to do with renting 4 apartments and claiming rent on 6 or whatever convoluted scheme the business genius on here has put forward. That is just someone with way too much time on his hands.
SLUSH THA MAN

Bolivar, MO

#380 Sep 8, 2011
My man is smooth as silk & twice as slick. He's laughing now while he gets a lil' rest in Daytona
Beach. He'll make his debue next month & walk like
a strutting rooster, saying "NEXT, IT'S YOUR TURN"!
Duckbutter-Meade

Corbin, KY

#381 Sep 8, 2011
Mofo is correct...The rest of you seem to be huffin'exhaust fumes...Harley to be exact!

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