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Affordable Care Act or Obamacare

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chicken livers

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Smells like rotten chicken livers to me!
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Obama-The worst president in history.
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Obama-The worst president in history.
They are Both the Same DumbAss Republican!!!!!!!
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Anything Obama tries to do is the same.He is a socialist who is determined to break America!By the way I am a democrat !
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Recall wrote:
Anything Obama tries to do is the same.He is a socialist who is determined to break America!By the way I am a democrat !
No you are a IDIOT...GW & REPUBLICANS almost broke this country. You don't even know what a socialist is!!
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Recall wrote:
Anything Obama tries to do is the same.He is a socialist who is determined to break America!By the way I am a democrat !
Barack Obama has done nothing to move the ideological pendulum in the direction of socialism. In fact, he has been a tribune of private industry, often saving private businesses from bankruptcy. By contrast, Presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt, by establishing Social Security in 1933, and Lyndon B. Johnson, by making Medicare the law of the land in 1965, swung the ideological pendulum in the direction of Socialism.

In his first year in office, Barack Obama authorized $80 billion from the Troubled Relief Assets Funds to loan to General Motors and Chrysler to keep them out of bankruptcy. The result is that two Fortune 500 companies benefited directly from Obama's actions. A socialist would have submitted legislation to the U.S. Congress, proposing to nationalize the nation's automobile industry, putting its ownership into public hands.

One could argue that the bailout was "crony capitalism" in that the two automobile companies, endowed with highly compensated lobbyists, received the loan while many other companies went bankrupt. Shoring up private companies is not socialism. In fact, it is the antithesis of socialism.
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No you are a IDIOT...GW & REPUBLICANS almost broke this country. You don't even know what a socialist is!!

-Bush was no conservative when it came to spending and he had help in the congress, both parties.

-Liberal King Barackus I is the epitome of a socialist and the crony capitalism he is practicing looks a great deal like that practiced by the National Socialist Party in Germany in the 1930's with the big businesses in Germany then.

-He bought and owns the car companies and the banks and now health care, they all dance to the government's tune.

-And the unintended consequences of obamacare are just now coming home to roost.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/359861/...

More destruction to follow, stay tuned.
Saying

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For You Cranky1: more destruction to come? Only if the do nothing Congress stays in!

One could argue that the bailout was "crony capitalism" in that the two automobile companies, endowed with highly compensated lobbyists, received the loan while many other companies went bankrupt. Shoring up private companies is not socialism. In fact, it is the antithesis of socialism.

One year later, Obama signed the Patient Protection and Affordability Act, a.k.a. Obamacare. The act requires every American to have health insurance. This act does not nationalize the healthcare industry, but instead provides government subsidies to private insurance companies. In effect, the nation's health care industry received about 31 million new customers courtesy of Uncle Sam. Furthermore, the legislation does not eliminate the partial anti-trust exemption that the industry benefits from. In effect, it allows healthcare organizations to operate similar to monopolies in the area of consolidation.

A socialist would have introduced legislation to nationalize the American healthcare industry, effectively eliminating the nation's private health insurance market. Americans would lose the option of purchasing health insurance on the private market, and Medicare would be extended to every American. All Americans would have full dental and medical insurance provided to them by the federal government.

Ironically, Obama's plan is very similar to the one offered by Republican President Richard M. Nixon in 1974. Nixon's plan, like Obama's plan, was a comprehensive Health Insurance Reform Program which would mandate that all Americans have health insurance, with the federal government subsidizing those who could not afford it. Nixon said in his 1974 State of the Union Address: "The time is at hand to bring comprehensive, high quality health care within the reach of every American." Ironically again, the Democratically controlled U.S. Congress did not move on Nixon's plan, arguing that it would be a boon to the insurance industry.
show me the money

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Our Government is broke, 17 trillion and climbing. Another give away that we can't afford. Free housing, food, phones, subsidies for utilities,and the list goes on and on. Now free health care, There is def. no need for these people to work. Where is the money coming from? That's right, the working men and women. We can't stand no more. My back is broke down, the load is so heavy.
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show me the money wrote:
Our Government is broke, 17 trillion and climbing. Another give away that we can't afford. Free housing, food, phones, subsidies for utilities,and the list goes on and on. Now free health care, There is def. no need for these people to work. Where is the money coming from? That's right, the working men and women. We can't stand no more. My back is broke down, the load is so heavy.
News Flash "our Government didn't just suddenly get Broke under President Obama!? You are a Republican Idiot that thinks poor people are less than you. Right? Free Health Care? Then why is the do nothing Congress whining & bitching about people having to pay for it? And where in the hell are the free phones all you DumbAss
People keep crying about? Hell I voted 2 times for President Obama and I want my phone...
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News Flash "our Government didn't just suddenly get Broke under President Obama!? You are a Republican Idiot that thinks poor people are less than you. Right? Free Health Care? Then why is the do nothing Congress whining & bitching about people having to pay for it? And where in the hell are the free phones all you DumbAss
People keep crying about? Hell I voted 2 times for President Obama and I want my phone...
Yes he broke us! He has caused more people to be out of work while claiming to put people to work.The jobs he has made has also cost us more tax dollars!Thats not jobs!Yeah hes made things free and believe me nothing is free !Instead of taxing more and more we need REAL jobs!
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News Flash "our Government didn't just suddenly get Broke under President Obama!? You are a Republican Idiot that thinks poor people are less than you. Right? Free Health Care? Then why is the do nothing Congress whining & bitching about people having to pay for it? And where in the hell are the free phones all you DumbAss
People keep crying about? Hell I voted 2 times for President Obama and I want my phone...
The poor will stay poor because a democrat idiot supports tax increases instead of jobs .That is created a "working poor nation".
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army man wrote:
<quoted text>The poor will stay poor because a democrat idiot supports tax increases instead of jobs .That is created a "working poor nation".
Can't fix STUPID keep on spewing that republican BullShit No One believes it but you and the other idiots that support the do nothing party.In 2008 when President Obama was sworn into office we were on the brink of really going under. He took what GW & Dick ruined turned it around and would have a lot more done including jobs if those sorry ass congressmen would do their damn jobs instead of trying to ruin his President record.
The Republican Party ( Mitch McConnell) said on the 1st day they would spend all their time making sure Obama Failed. So stupid they don't even know if he fails so do we....
cant fix stupid or broke

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Can't fix STUPID keep on spewing that republican BullShit No One believes it but you and the other idiots that support the do nothing party.In 2008 when President Obama was sworn into office we were on the brink of really going under. He took what GW & Dick ruined turned it around and would have a lot more done including jobs if those sorry ass congressmen would do their damn jobs instead of trying to ruin his President record.
The Republican Party ( Mitch McConnell) said on the 1st day they would spend all their time making sure Obama Failed. So stupid they don't even know if he fails so do we....
If he doesnt fail the whole country will be broke silly !
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cant fix stupid or broke wrote:
<quoted text>If he doesnt fail the whole country will be broke silly !
Use your GOOGLE SEARCH...Stop listening to all the DumbAss people you know research some History for yourself..I know you can't grasp this but the bills that you think is breaking us. CONGRESS MADE THEM! Gee
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If the federal government can make-force you to buy health insurance, what is next? Do you not see the dangers here?

And your king Barkackus I and the democrat congress who passed this on a strict party line vote knew they could not go to single payer, the country wouldn't go for it. But----with this horrid plan where premiums are designed to skyrocket will force the private health insurance companies to close or the cost will be so much no one can afford it. Then comes the ultimate power play your king rides in and proposes single payer, full blown socialist health care where the government controls everything you do.

With control of health care a bunch of petty bureaucrats now hold your life and your families lives in their hands, do you really want that? Are you that stupid and compliant? If so you could be held up through the mail!

Scratch a liberal find a fascist.
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Sigh.

Does everyone even understand what is going on in Washington?

Why did the Republicans ask first to defund Obamacare? Most media is going to say because they don't want Obamacare - and this is partially true. The other equally important reason is they are looking to stop the growth of our national debt and a new, mega program that isn't necessary to implement now (while our economy is still in recovery).

Next Republicans asked to delay it. This doesn't save as much money, so they added other cost saving initiatives.

Now Republicans are looking to find a Compromise which will still slow down our national debt. This is the same thing they were looking for at time of sequester, but the senate is not budging.

Now - I hope everyone realizes the Republicans never thought they would get to defund Obamacare. This is called negotiation. Outside a store, which has predetermined prices, sales are done by negotiation. You don't buy a car for lot price. You don't buy insurance for the retail. You can even negotiate your bills (cable). Of course there are flea markets, garage sales, pawn stores...

Media is failing us. They like to have a crisis they can report on, we tune in to watch and depending on their owner and support is the flavor of news you will get. Most are still harping on the defunding when that option was pulled over a week ago.

Unfortunately our democratic leaders realize this and use it to their advantage. Do you think they really needed to shut down the "open air" memorials that never had barricades, fences, doors, security before? What sense does that make? You can't look at this up close because our government is shut down.

They closed operations that are not even government funded.

They 800,000 government employees that are talked about over and over will get their back pay. That happened before and of course it will happen again. In reality it means they are getting a vacation. It's the portions of government that are closed that are hurting people. The portions that are closed are the ones that have the most sting to the public. This is the same tatics that were used in the sequester.

Now to the poll on this topix. Of course they are the same thing. It's funny you post that on a forum where you bash the right as it was a right sided news outlet that initially did this poll. Most of the people picked the affordable care act. They stated they thought Obamacare still had some holes in it. These were people from both parties, different backgrounds, men, women, black, white, hispanic...ect. It shows that a lot of our country is ignorant to what is truly going on which is why our media is the biggest part of this mess, because people will believe/parrot what they see on tv as it is true and not look for opposing opinions to determine what they think on their own. It also shows they do have some apprehension about obamacare and Obama as his name is in it.

One more note. Socialism is where everyone shares everything. You don't own things, you wouldn't buy a golf set and it would be better than the next guys, you would go to the golf club and always use the best. You may work harder than the next guy but you get the same pay, the same food, the same house...ect. Obamacare is somewhat socialist as everyone can get it, but at least at this point there is some varying levels of coverage. It is being brought to you by a want to be dictator though. Dictator = when you run everyone, compromise is non existent and you shun/squash people for varying view points.
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Here's what's going on in Washington the " DO NOTHING PARTY OF NO - LOW LIFE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS" is holding this country hostage. What the Hell is wrong with people having Health Care? The ones that can pay should pay..For years insurance companies have been screwing us they won't cover children born sick hell with the elderly. Drug Companies have robbed us for years and all you people can do is say the government is telling me what to do? Well here's some advice get the fuck out...other countries can give you just what you need..See Ya
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Terry and Charles calm down.
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You obviously haven't studied the nearly 100 yrs. of full blown socialism in Europe where business is concerned.

And we have tried socialism here in American once at the Jamestown colony when it first was settled. The result, they nearly starved to death.

The Republicans for the most part had no stomach for this shut down. Right now the only difference between the two parties is the price tag. A few conservatives realized that once obamacare is implemented it will finally kill off any semblance of a prosperous United States.

Through obamacare the government will decide whether you live or die period. Your doctors will have very little say in the process. And those death panels, they are already operating for those on Medicare.

If the government can force you to buy insurance what can't it do? As president ford once said, a government that can give you every thing can take everything away.

All the media, your king obama, the democrats and republicrats are "reconciling" after this fight and celebrating. Celebrating what? The fact they just dumped another trillion dollars of debt on their grandchildren.

What they have done both parties is immoral and vile. This generation is willingly to live high on the hog saddle their children with mounds of debt. This is child abuse pure and simple.

And really obama has borrowed more money than all the presidents before him so stop this the repubilcans did it crap. They did part of it, but under his watch the debt being incurred has gone parabolic and cannot be sustained.

A dark tyranny is about to fall upon the people of this country and they are thinking it is all going to be unicorn farts and skittles for all. Romans probably thought this as well until the barbarians came over the hills of Rome.

Enjoy the bread and circuses for it can't go on much longer before there is a reckoning.

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