8 dead in nursing home shooting

8 dead in nursing home shooting

There are 25 comments on the www.fayobserver.com story from Mar 29, 2009, titled 8 dead in nursing home shooting. In it, www.fayobserver.com reports that:

The shooting happened about 10 a.m. at the Pinelake Health and Rehabilitation Center in Carthage, police said.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at www.fayobserver.com.

First Prev
of 2
Next Last
Texas Longhorn

Crest Hill, IL

#1 Mar 29, 2009
Another touching story brought to you by the good ol' boys at the NRA, who feel it's the right of every psyco gun nut to be armed and dangerous!

“Blazing Skies!!!”

Since: Sep 08

Planet Mirth

#3 Mar 29, 2009
Spunk Nutley wrote:
If the nursing home residents and nurses were packing heat, this would have never happened. It's really their fault for not exercising their right to bear arms.
Jesus Christ, please bless our guns and keep those socialist lib-tards from stripping us naked of our freedoms, they're the REAL monsters, Amen. As for the victims, they're collateral damage.
And if they were packing heat and the perp still got the drop on them, then what? You are an f-n moron! So are we all supposed to sit around with guns drawn facing the door just because you are afraid of someone's going to take YOUR gun away? What scares some of us about you and your over-enthusiastic kind is that your fear will one day cause one of you to shoot first and ask questions later. Then we'll hear again the circular logic that if the victim was packing heat....

If there's one thing scarier than crazy people with guns its paranoid people with guns.
O - the President

Fort Collins, CO

#4 Mar 29, 2009
Spunk Nutley wrote:
If the nursing home residents and nurses were packing heat, this would have never happened. It's really their fault for not exercising their right to bear arms.
Jesus Christ, please bless our guns and keep those socialist lib-tards from stripping us naked of our freedoms, they're the REAL monsters, Amen. As for the victims, they're collateral damage.
http://www.african-safari-pictures.com/image-...
mr mister

Fayetteville, NC

#5 Mar 29, 2009
Truly a tragic day for the victims and their families.Totally senseless for the gunman to do something like this. May God bless the families and the Carthage Police Dept.
UncleGoat

AOL

#7 Mar 30, 2009
The NRA are last people who want crazy people armed. The NRA spends millions of dollars in teaching gun safety and crime prevention. This atrocity is the last thing the NRA would support.
Glory

Kansas City, KS

#8 Mar 30, 2009
mr mister wrote:
Truly a tragic day for the victims and their families.Totally senseless for the gunman to do something like this. May God bless the families and the Carthage Police Dept.
How do you know they didn't deserve it?

“Blazing Skies!!!”

Since: Sep 08

Planet Mirth

#9 Mar 30, 2009
Spunk Nutley wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL I was being sarcastic. I agree with your opinion.
Spunk, I'm sorry for not realising that the first time. Overnight it came to me.

“Blazing Skies!!!”

Since: Sep 08

Planet Mirth

#10 Mar 30, 2009
UncleGoat wrote:
The NRA are last people who want crazy people armed. The NRA spends millions of dollars in teaching gun safety and crime prevention. This atrocity is the last thing the NRA would support.
I have nothing against the NRA but it has got to be a fine line they have to tread when something like this happens.

On the one hand they have their base to appease (and fear) and according to some things I saw (you know where) their leadership seems unwilling to voice any real sorrow for the victims of gun murders and injuries or propose any kind of solution that gives an inch to those of us who have a nagging desire to NOT be killed by someone with a gun. The victims rights are always "infringed" upon a heck of lot more than any Second Amendment advocate's rights would be.

NRA has got to come up with something better than "guns don't kill people, people kill people". The fact is that people WITHOUT guns don't kill multiple people as easily or very often as they might without guns. By my count there are 16 cold dead hands in this story.

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#12 Mar 30, 2009
ypdave wrote:
<quoted text>
I have nothing against the NRA but it has got to be a fine line they have to tread when something like this happens.
On the one hand they have their base to appease (and fear) and according to some things I saw (you know where) their leadership seems unwilling to voice any real sorrow for the victims of gun murders and injuries or propose any kind of solution that gives an inch to those of us who have a nagging desire to NOT be killed by someone with a gun. The victims rights are always "infringed" upon a heck of lot more than any Second Amendment advocate's rights would be.
NRA has got to come up with something better than "guns don't kill people, people kill people". The fact is that people WITHOUT guns don't kill multiple people as easily or very often as they might without guns. By my count there are 16 cold dead hands in this story.
right, take away guns and no more people will die. and there have never been multiple killings without a gun involved? guess you dont watch or read much news. what a moron.

GUNS DO NOT KILL PEOPLE! PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE!
PERIOD!

“Blazing Skies!!!”

Since: Sep 08

Planet Mirth

#13 Mar 30, 2009
DavidH64 wrote:
<quoted text>
right, take away guns and no more people will die. and there have never been multiple killings without a gun involved? guess you dont watch or read much news. what a moron.
GUNS DO NOT KILL PEOPLE! PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE!
PERIOD!
I did not say there would be no more deaths. Fewer , probably. I suppose you think these peoples' deaths were within the acceptable limit. Martyrs for your rights.

Maybe you don't understand the concept of enabling or the value of having a tool. Without a weapon with the killing power of a gun who is going to walk unopposed in and kill that many people?

“Blazing Skies!!!”

Since: Sep 08

Planet Mirth

#14 Mar 30, 2009
DavidH64 wrote:
<quoted text>
right, take away guns and no more people will die. and there have never been multiple killings without a gun involved? guess you dont watch or read much news. what a moron.
GUNS DO NOT KILL PEOPLE! PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE!
PERIOD!
People with guns kill intentionally kill more people than people without guns.

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#15 Mar 30, 2009
ypdave wrote:
<quoted text>
I did not say there would be no more deaths. Fewer , probably. I suppose you think these peoples' deaths were within the acceptable limit. Martyrs for your rights.
Maybe you don't understand the concept of enabling or the value of having a tool. Without a weapon with the killing power of a gun who is going to walk unopposed in and kill that many people?
Does not change the FACT that I have a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to own guns. PERIOD

I do not deny tho; Better laws and punishment are required for offences with firearms, Better laws are required to obtain a weapon.
Lynnette Perry

Titusville, FL

#16 Mar 30, 2009
Leaving pro or anti gun laws out of this..(that's for state and national laws to decide,) the real issue is that this nursing facilty had NO SECURITY! There were no people at the door to greet and potential "visitors"and make sure they were family or friends and had the right to enter the building. No one had metal detectors at the door. There were no security people there to stop this before it started. Even maternity wards give better protection and have locked doors!
Sadly, our elders are not really being protected. They may get food, baths, etc..but not protection. No criminal checks are being run on potential employees at most homes of care. The residents there could be subject to killers, thieves or pedophiles.
Criminal background checks MUST be done on potential employees before they are able and suitable to work in nursing homes. And security can be put into place where a person sits in an office looking at monitors to see if anyone entering is on the list of family or friends. ALL friends or family should have authorization keys for the front door and, when swiped to get in, the information/photos MUST match the information that comes up on the computer screen, so that the face and information match, or that the security guard can electronically lock out any non-matched person and call police.
I am not sure most people KNOW how much it costs or elders to live in these places? In some cases it can be $5,000 a month or more to live there and get care. But they are not treated as though they are paying that much for services! THEY are consumers. They are paying BIG BUCKS for care and protection. There should and MUST be security. We have to protect these people that cared for us when we were little and keep them safe.

“Blazing Skies!!!”

Since: Sep 08

Planet Mirth

#17 Mar 30, 2009
DavidH64 wrote:
<quoted text>
Does not change the FACT that I have a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to own guns. PERIOD
I do not deny tho; Better laws and punishment are required for offences with firearms, Better laws are required to obtain a weapon.
On this we agree. It's a tough call deciding who can have guns. Too often after the fact we all say, "he shouldn't have had a gun". How do we get in front of the problem without infringing? I would think gun rights advocates would be able to come up with something that works as a good balance between rights and public safety.

“Blazing Skies!!!”

Since: Sep 08

Planet Mirth

#18 Mar 30, 2009
Lynnette Perry wrote:
Leaving pro or anti gun laws out of this..(that's for state and national laws to decide,) the real issue is that this nursing facilty had NO SECURITY! There were no people at the door to greet and potential "visitors"and make sure they were family or friends and had the right to enter the building. No one had metal detectors at the door. There were no security people there to stop this before it started..... We have to protect these people that cared for us when we were little and keep them safe.
Your points about the elderly and their care are well made.

Lack of security is not the issue nor is this a nursing home-specific problem. Do you really think having a rent-a-cop would have made a difference?

This could just as well have happened at any open public building, sidewalk, mall, grocery store, etc. Our society will not function if we run it like the boarding areas at the airports.

“If The Shoe Fits”

Since: Feb 08

Medina, Ohio

#19 Mar 30, 2009
Texas Longhorn wrote:
Another touching story brought to you by the good ol' boys at the NRA, who feel it's the right of every psyco gun nut to be armed and dangerous!
Yes sir take our guns so the only idiots out there who will have them will be armed and dangerous psycho's. We should all feel safe then.
md grew up there

Williamsburg, VA

#21 Mar 30, 2009
you people are not from Carthage. Nothing like this has ever happened there. They are devistated at the tradgedy that has taken place in their "Mayberry" home town. None of you even live close to Carthage, how dare you judge their "lack of security" and how dare you use this as a forum for gun control. Think Barney Fife, and Sheriff Taylor, That's Carthage. No one would ever hurt any one there, that's why they didn't think about "added security". Most people don't even lock their doors. But now they will never feel secure again. The whole town needs our prayers, not your sarcasim!
black mtn nc resident

Candler, NC

#22 Mar 30, 2009
my heart goes out to you ppl there in carthage. while everyone bickers over gun laws and security in nursing homes there are 8, no 9 families whose hearts are breaking. please, lets pray for the families of the victims and the shooter as well as the injured officer.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#23 Mar 30, 2009
Spunk Nutley wrote:
If the nursing home residents and nurses were packing heat, this would have never happened. It's really their fault for not exercising their right to bear arms.
Jesus Christ, please bless our guns and keep those socialist lib-tards from stripping us naked of our freedoms, they're the REAL monsters, Amen. As for the victims, they're collateral damage.
you are right.

My grandpa can't recognize me, or feed himself; but he can probably still pull a trigger.

Who will pay for the new TV's?

Why won't health aides work with demented, old senile people with guns?
Are they all commies?
Anonymous

Albemarle, NC

#24 Mar 30, 2009
Spunk Nutley wrote:
If the nursing home residents and nurses were packing heat, this would have never happened. It's really their fault for not exercising their right to bear arms.
Jesus Christ, please bless our guns and keep those socialist lib-tards from stripping us naked of our freedoms, they're the REAL monsters, Amen. As for the victims, they're collateral damage.
This nut should be banned from this forum! The victims are victims not collateral damage! You want Jesus Christ to bless your arms, which is what killed these innocent people! If everyone had guns there who knows how many more people would have been killed!

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 2
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Pinehurst Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Dora Bell Holden and Herman(Harmon) Franks (Dec '11) Mar 11 tony-freeman 4
J&C Consignment in Pinehurst Feb '17 sadair 1
News Ex-wife charged with murder (Dec '08) Jan '17 Dolly 38
News Lost Dog, Bernese Mountain Dog in Southern Pine... Dec '16 TGreenslit 1
Any restaurants open for Thanksgiving dinner? (Nov '09) Nov '16 Clammers 10
News Village Urges Publix Developer to Reconsider Ac... Oct '16 Native 7
News Village Still Mulling Position on Publix Shoppi... (Sep '16) Sep '16 Dick Tracy 2

Pinehurst Jobs

More from around the web

Personal Finance

Pinehurst Mortgages