Citizens Duped by Developer

There are 20 comments on the Oct 14, 2013, CNN story titled Citizens Duped by Developer. In it, CNN reports that:

The citizens of several small towns in upstate New York have been unknowing duped by a small developer and the local village board.

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catskills reply

Syracuse, NY

#22 Jan 3, 2014
That's just it Catskills!!
Moses does not respect the people of Bloomingburg and he is the one breeding the hate!
angry bloomingburger

Ellenville, NY

#23 Jan 3, 2014
there are plenty of informed people in our community including myself that love the old customs and devotion of secular life of the Hasidm..the 15% that really believe. Lamms ilk is coming to Bloomingburg is all about latching and defunding A grade school districts to perpetuate the next ego tripping parasite community..and terrorizing us IF they dont get their way!!! Look up Ramapo, Monsey and Satmar/ODA fraud They ever think of humbly asking for help?! since they feel they "need" it so much I WOULD LOVE TO HELP BUILD THEM SCHOOLS!!! next
Catskills wrote:
Lived in the Catskills and I can tell you I love the summers when the Hasidim come up. I understand the frustration with traffic and driving habits but that's not everyone. My father is a caretaker for a camp in Parksville and our family has been privileged enough to be exposed to and educated on their community, religion and lifestyle. It's secular and that scares outsiders but do not judge all by the actions of one or two. We've never been treated poorly but I respect their customs as I would expect them to respect mine if I had any that were outright and strict. I'd rather have Hasidim than Monticello Section 8 trash any day. Hasidim take pride in their families, their homes and themselves. As a Catholic woman, I do not fear or resent the new proposed community. I hope they create a year round Woodridge or Woodbourne with shops, restaurants, stores that everyone would be welcome to in the ttown. Stop being blinded by stereotypes and hate, we can't change what's been done. This is America damn it.
angry bloomingburger

Ellenville, NY

#24 Jan 3, 2014
heres what their wonderful spiritual leader wrote, that just ironically hit and ran a yeshiva student while badmouthing all minorities on other pages see for yourself and google this monster.... http://www.topix.com/forum/city/bloomingburg-... Moses Kestenbaum ODA wrote
"Nov 3, 2013 let me add this, if the opposition succeeds in keeping the Jews out, I will buy off this project and convert this to biggest Section 8 housing in Sullivan county , I will not discriminate against anyone, African Americans , Spanish, illegals , Indians, Mexicans, Indians, Nigerians, Haitians, and what have you all the above will have preferential slots that I will advertise in every major newspaper in the USA , so mrs Maryann watch your words and your actions carefully . BTW I am contacting Norman Segal from the ACLU to get involved , and Mrs Marry Ann you could contact the Klu klax clan you idiot"
CTM

Southbury, CT

#25 Jan 4, 2014
My name is Moses too wrote:
Hasidim elsewhere must maintain jobs, forcing them to engage more with the wider society, and study on evenings and weekends.
American Hasidim view the host society as alien but not inaccessible, and increasingly enjoy American materialism if not culture
However, the most extreme Hasidic lifestyle involves a totalistic commitment to Jewish law and survival, a high level of separation of the sexes, and segregation from the modern world.
Yet Moses is the one calling everybody a racist!....
Shaking my head....
..........Sounds like there's a lot of room for improvement of the Hasidic lifestyle then. Since there is a big push for Al Queada to step into the modern world and its' values, don't you think it's time for your culture as well?
My name is moses too

Paul Smiths, NY

#26 Jan 8, 2014
CTM wrote:
<quoted text>..........Sounds like there's a lot of room for improvement of the Hasidic lifestyle then. Since there is a big push for Al Queada to step into the modern world and its' values, don't you think it's time for your culture as well?
CTM, My point here is to share with you all the short comings of amercan hasid. And yes I agree we should step into the modern world. Thats why I preluded by informing of the lifestyles of hasid in countries outside of the U.S.
They are forced to interact with host society, not by local governing bodies but by there own religious governing bodies.
CTM

Southbury, CT

#27 Jan 9, 2014
My name is moses too wrote:
<quoted text>
CTM, My point here is to share with you all the short comings of amercan hasid. And yes I agree we should step into the modern world. Thats why I preluded by informing of the lifestyles of hasid in countries outside of the U.S.
They are forced to interact with host society, not by local governing bodies but by there own religious governing bodies.
..........By interacting is their purpose to learn and adopt the ways of their new country or is it to push for all to become hasid?
My name is Moses too

Paul Smiths, NY

#28 Jan 10, 2014
CTM wrote:
<quoted text>..........By interacting is their purpose to learn and adopt the ways of their new country or is it to push for all to become hasid?
Yes! that's the point! IN other countries outside the US they ARE required to interact with the host society hence "blending" in and becoming members of the COMMUNITY. Not just their own secular community. Dude it's all out there in this age of technology and information. It's all there at your fingertips.
The ways of their new country? What?!?! These people have been in their prospective countries for decades (the u.s.), even centuries (europe/asia)! It's not like they just showed up in any one country like 5 years ago.... form space. This is worldly culture we live in. And if you want to get nitty gritty the hasid in America have "adopted" many "ways" of our country. Have you been to Woodbury Commons? The materialism that the hasid have an appetite for is the sole result of "adopting the ways" of America.
It's clear that there are ignorant people on both sides of this argument....
And yes CTM I am calling you ignorant, as you have so eloquently taken my words and mis-construed them into false point so far from the true meaning of what I am actually portraying. And for the record before you go off about this or that, no I am not jewish. Nor am I christian, or muslim, or any other religious sect that you may try to blanket me under. Theology is just my thing let's say.

You're stooping to Kestenbaum's level of racebating with this behavior. Check yourself.
CTM

Southbury, CT

#29 Jan 10, 2014
My name is Moses too wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes! that's the point! IN other countries outside the US they ARE required to interact with the host society hence "blending" in and becoming members of the COMMUNITY. Not just their own secular community. Dude it's all out there in this age of technology and information. It's all there at your fingertips.
The ways of their new country? What?!?! These people have been in their prospective countries for decades (the u.s.), even centuries (europe/asia)! It's not like they just showed up in any one country like 5 years ago.... form space. This is worldly culture we live in. And if you want to get nitty gritty the hasid in America have "adopted" many "ways" of our country. Have you been to Woodbury Commons? The materialism that the hasid have an appetite for is the sole result of "adopting the ways" of America.
It's clear that there are ignorant people on both sides of this argument....
And yes CTM I am calling you ignorant, as you have so eloquently taken my words and mis-construed them into false point so far from the true meaning of what I am actually portraying. And for the record before you go off about this or that, no I am not jewish. Nor am I christian, or muslim, or any other religious sect that you may try to blanket me under. Theology is just my thing let's say.
You're stooping to Kestenbaum's level of racebating with this behavior. Check yourself.
..........You really are a BS artist. You wrote a paper instead of a simple answer and you lie in it. The jew has had materialism in their soul more than God for thousands of years, golden calf ring a bell? I'm not trying to blanket you under anything, you come onto the thread as "Moses" talking of the jew and now you say you're not? I'm not the one misconstruing anything you liar.
My name is Moses too

Paul Smiths, NY

#30 Jan 13, 2014
CTM wrote:
<quoted text>..........You really are a BS artist. You wrote a paper instead of a simple answer and you lie in it. The jew has had materialism in their soul more than God for thousands of years, golden calf ring a bell? I'm not trying to blanket you under anything, you come onto the thread as "Moses" talking of the jew and now you say you're not? I'm not the one misconstruing anything you liar.
CTM,
Just because my name is Moses doesn't make me a jew by default... SMH. The ignorance of people never seizes to amaze me. Common sense these days..... just isn't so common anymore.
And yes there was a golden calf but if you read the story with insight and inference the calf wasn't about materialism it was about deity, that they chose to worship in the form of a golden calf. You shouldn't sum up all jews as being corrupt and or crooked due to a story you apparently know nothing about. I wish you luck to face this world with such a close minded narcissistic attitude. And furthermore let's not forget the original reason why we came to this sight to begin with.
Again good luck, you're gonna need it.
CTM

Southbury, CT

#31 Jan 13, 2014
My name is Moses too wrote:
<quoted text>
CTM,
Just because my name is Moses doesn't make me a jew by default... SMH. The ignorance of people never seizes to amaze me. Common sense these days..... just isn't so common anymore.
And yes there was a golden calf but if you read the story with insight and inference the calf wasn't about materialism it was about deity, that they chose to worship in the form of a golden calf. You shouldn't sum up all jews as being corrupt and or crooked due to a story you apparently know nothing about. I wish you luck to face this world with such a close minded narcissistic attitude. And furthermore let's not forget the original reason why we came to this sight to begin with.
Again good luck, you're gonna need it.
..........Just proved you are a liar. If you are not a jew, why purposefully mislead people with that name? The deity was gold you liar. They abandoned faith in Moses when he went up the mountain to speak with God, as he was asked to. Did you ever consider God chose to send the jew a Saviour since they were so corrupt then? And it seems nothing has changed for thousands of years. By the way, it has been learned how to cure pork and other meats so one doesn't get sick anymore. So have a ham and cheese sandwich with a glass of milk. That might be a start on bringing Hasidm up to date.
Jewish Disabled Vet

Bronx, NY

#32 Jan 16, 2014
The only Nazi's I know of are Feinstein, Boxer, Bloomberg and of course Schmuer

Is there any wonder why Mrs Clinton called people Phucking Jew Bastards" and these scumbags came out in force t give her Jewish Vote

Anyone weho wants to take away the rights I fought for suck as the oath to defend the constitution

I noticed that Oradox Jews never serve any country they decide to move into .. They have no idea what bing a "Mench" means
CTM

Southbury, CT

#33 Jan 17, 2014
Jewish Disabled Vet wrote:
The only Nazi's I know of are Feinstein, Boxer, Bloomberg and of course Schmuer
Is there any wonder why Mrs Clinton called people Phucking Jew Bastards" and these scumbags came out in force t give her Jewish Vote
Anyone weho wants to take away the rights I fought for suck as the oath to defend the constitution
I noticed that Oradox Jews never serve any country they decide to move into .. They have no idea what bing a "Mench" means
..........Be sure to add blumenthal.
Stop arguing

Pine Bush, NY

#34 Jan 18, 2014
So you want our area,looking like Monroe.Take a stand,keep them out,as it is our taxes are freaking high enough.
My name is moses too

Paul Smiths, NY

#35 Jan 30, 2014
CTM wrote:
<quoted text>..........Just proved you are a liar. If you are not a jew, why purposefully mislead people with that name? The deity was gold you liar. They abandoned faith in Moses when he went up the mountain to speak with God, as he was asked to. Did you ever consider God chose to send the jew a Saviour since they were so corrupt then? And it seems nothing has changed for thousands of years. By the way, it has been learned how to cure pork and other meats so one doesn't get sick anymore. So have a ham and cheese sandwich with a glass of milk. That might be a start on bringing Hasidm up to date.
I will have Ham cheese and milk you basterd. My name is Moses cause I'm a black man from the south you ignorant uneducated backwoods bred whitetrash bigot.
CTM

Southbury, CT

#36 Jan 30, 2014
My name is moses too wrote:
<quoted text>
I will have Ham cheese and milk you basterd. My name is Moses cause I'm a black man from the south you ignorant uneducated backwoods bred whitetrash bigot.
..........Look in the mirror for that ignorant uneducated thing. If you read the news and watched it on TV instead of cartoons you might understand how the jew in politics here in this country is stealing our taxes and rights. Hope you're going to Oz singing, "If I only had a brain".
My name is moses too

Paul Smiths, NY

#37 Feb 24, 2014
CTM wrote:
<quoted text>..........Look in the mirror for that ignorant uneducated thing. If you read the news and watched it on TV instead of cartoons you might understand how the jew in politics here in this country is stealing our taxes and rights. Hope you're going to Oz singing, "If I only had a brain".
I am not stooping to your level of ignorance CTM. You may have the last laugh but it will not be the best as that laugh is for me. I hold far too many degrees to be involved in such a childish manipulating debate all because I voiced my two cents. I wish you the best of luck as you carry on in this life with the narcissistic mentality that you so dutifully portray for after you leave this earth nothing will remain in your name not even a pebble at the bottom of a pond. The only thing that will resonate are your actions in how you treated others. Peace be with you CTM you certainly need it.
CTM

Southbury, CT

#38 Feb 24, 2014
My name is moses too wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not stooping to your level of ignorance CTM. You may have the last laugh but it will not be the best as that laugh is for me. I hold far too many degrees to be involved in such a childish manipulating debate all because I voiced my two cents. I wish you the best of luck as you carry on in this life with the narcissistic mentality that you so dutifully portray for after you leave this earth nothing will remain in your name not even a pebble at the bottom of a pond. The only thing that will resonate are your actions in how you treated others. Peace be with you CTM you certainly need it.
..........Degrees? You got a thermometer in your hand? I'm not treating anyone wrong. I am responding and defending against a lot of corruption that is going on. Why don't you go to the mid-east and see how they like you there. I'm sure they will tell you first why before you leave.
Moses Kestenbaum ODA

New York, NY

#39 Feb 24, 2014
I have already prepared 147 individual summonses to drag every every motha fck stinky ass in bloomingass into court in federal human rights violations . I am already sourcing property in Bermuda to invest all the millions of dollars in judgments that i will win and collect from all these denizen bad dogs who oppose the jews. We have now a full profile on each an every of these dogs, so bloomingass aholes go build my mansions, Thank You
CTM

Southbury, CT

#40 Feb 25, 2014
Moses Kestenbaum ODA wrote:
I have already prepared 147 individual summonses to drag every every motha fck stinky ass in bloomingass into court in federal human rights violations . I am already sourcing property in Bermuda to invest all the millions of dollars in judgments that i will win and collect from all these denizen bad dogs who oppose the jews. We have now a full profile on each an every of these dogs, so bloomingass aholes go build my mansions, Thank You
..........The difference between a dream and a delusion is that the dream can come to fruition with hard work and commitment. Try to get one and get out of your delusion.
My name is Moses too

Paul Smiths, NY

#41 Mar 25, 2014
CTM wrote:
<quoted text>..........Degrees? You got a thermometer in your hand? I'm not treating anyone wrong. I am responding and defending against a lot of corruption that is going on. Why don't you go to the mid-east and see how they like you there. I'm sure they will tell you first why before you leave.
CTM,
I have been to the Middle east and served 4 great years while there. I have had men die in my arms to protect the rights of people such as yourself. Be careful what you say when you know nothing about the person. Again I am not jewish. I wish you luck in your search for peace with your narrow minded ignorant bigoted ways. If I had served in war with you you would definitely have been a recipient of what is known as "friendly fire". Believe that.

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