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dont know nothin

Benton City, WA

#19281 Dec 13, 2012
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
Not my definition of discrimination. It was wikipedia's. I found a host of sites that reported the $63 tax/fee. The one you probably consider "credible" is The Huffington Post's website. If you go to healthcare.gov you can read the entire bill. Go down to page 226 and read the section REINSURANCE AND RISK ADJUSTMENT. It outlines this tax/fee and says the tax is to be determined. The section tells how people will have to pay for reinsurance which is insurance that is purchased by an insurance company (the "ceding company" or "cedant" or "cedent" under the arrangement) from one or more other insurance companies (the "reinsurer") as a means of risk management, sometimes in practice including tax mitigation and other reasons. Maybe you should rethink the fact that you would be more than happy to have an argument on the content of Obamacare. Or at least don't be so careless in making claims of your knowledge in a given subject which you clearly don't have in this case. I told you before I own the company I work for. Are you really making the argument that if you blame the company you work for that the tax/fee doesn't exist? Your argumet that a company should be able to eat that kind of tax shows how very little you know about business.
PART V—REINSURANCE AND RISK ADJUSTMENT
11 SEC. 1341. TRANSITIONAL REINSURANCE PROGRAM FOR IN12
DIVIDUAL AND SMALL GROUP MARKETS IN
13 EACH STATE.
14 (a) IN GENERAL.—Each State shall, not later than
15 January 1, 2014—
16 (1) include in the Federal standards or State
17 law or regulation the State adopts and has in effect
18 under section 1321(b) the provisions described in sub19
section (b); and
20 (2) establish (or enter into a contract with) 1 or
21 more applicable reinsurance entities to carry out the
22 reinsurance program under this section.
23 (b) MODEL REGULATION.—
24 (1) IN GENERAL.—In establishing the Federal
25 standards under section 1321(a), the Secretary, in
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1 consultation with the National Association of Insur2
ance Commissioners (the ‘‘NAIC’’), shall include pro3
visions that enable States to establish and maintain
4 a program under which—
5 (A) health insurance issuers, and third
6 party administrators on behalf of group health
7 plans, are required to make payments to an ap8
plicable reinsurance entity for any plan year be9
ginning in the 3-year period beginning January
10 1, 2014 (as specified in paragraph (3); and
11 (B) the applicable reinsurance entity col12
lects payments under subparagraph (A) and uses
13 amounts so collected to make reinsurance pay14
ments to health insurance issuers described in
15 subparagraph (A) that cover high risk individ16
uals in the individual market (excluding grand17
fathered health plans) for any plan year begin18
ning in such 3-year period.
19 (2) HIGH-RISK INDIVIDUAL; PAYMENT
20 AMOUNTS.—The Secretary shall include the following
21 in the provisions under paragraph (1):
22 (A) DETERMINATION OF HIGH-RISK INDI23
VIDUALS.—The method by which individuals will
24 be identified as high risk individuals for pur25
poses of the reinsurance program established
228
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1 under this section. Such method shall provide for
2 identification of individuals as high-risk indi3
viduals on the basis of—
4 (i) a list of at least 50 but not more
5 than 100 medical conditions that are iden6
tified as high-risk conditions and that may
7 be based on the identification of diagnostic
8 and procedure codes that are indicative of
9 individuals with pre-existing, high-risk con10
ditions; or
11 (ii) any other comparable objective
12 method of identification recommended by
13 the American Academy of Actuaries.
14 (B) PAYMENT AMOUNT.—The formula for
15 determining the amount of payments that will be
16 paid to health insurance issuers described in
17 paragraph (1)(A) that insure high-risk individ18
uals.
there is no fee...don't care if you own your own business and your definition is not wikipedias
dont know nothin

Benton City, WA

#19282 Dec 13, 2012
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
Not my definition of discrimination. It was wikipedia's. I found a host of sites that reported the $63 tax/fee. The one you probably consider "credible" is The Huffington Post's website. If you go to healthcare.gov you can read the entire bill. Go down to page 226 and read the section REINSURANCE AND RISK ADJUSTMENT. It outlines this tax/fee and says the tax is to be determined. The section tells how people will have to pay for reinsurance which is insurance that is purchased by an insurance company (the "ceding company" or "cedant" or "cedent" under the arrangement) from one or more other insurance companies (the "reinsurer") as a means of risk management, sometimes in practice including tax mitigation and other reasons. Maybe you should rethink the fact that you would be more than happy to have an argument on the content of Obamacare. Or at least don't be so careless in making claims of your knowledge in a given subject which you clearly don't have in this case. I told you before I own the company I work for. Are you really making the argument that if you blame the company you work for that the tax/fee doesn't exist? Your argumet that a company should be able to eat that kind of tax shows how very little you know about business.
your definition does not look like mine and that is my source for this definition so do not degrade wikipedias credibility with conservapedias... i've read the law and i've read that section and nowhere does it say a fee is paid by indviduals .. i've tried posting the law o nhere and it would not take but it is on healthcare.gov as you have stated like i posted 10 posts back..i do know that it does not take a genius to own and run a business so please don't act like one when you cannot understand the concept of the law which is going to be implemented and i do know enough about business to know that if you keep thinking the way you do .. you will not be in business very long .. and you are still trying to prove a one sided fear mongoring storry produced by fox news and right wing media.. so do not continue to say i am biased in my posts.. i posts only the facts...and did you read the whole law? did you see where small businesses will be recieving tax credits when such law is implemented?... and i do know what i am talking about far more than some ignorant so called independant who continues to try and prove lies with facts and comes back to bite them .. "please continue governor" LOL if you want to openly make yourself look as bad as your so called "factual" evidence then go ahead be my guest... your knowledge in business is why some companies file for bankruptcy and have to be bailed out... because it's owners like you that THINK they know what their talking about when in all reality couldn't be further from truth...so maybe you should comprehend what you read and your business i'm sure would be far more successful than it currently is.
Redd

United States

#19284 Dec 13, 2012
Captain Obvious wrote:
<quoted text>Barney is a confirmed LIAR. She has absolutely zero credibility.
And of course you do?

I love it how some of you think by referring to a opposing poster as feminine somehow belittles them. Says a lot.
Redd

United States

#19285 Dec 13, 2012
Curmudgeon wrote:
George Bush, Queen Elizabeth, and Vladimir Putin all die and go to hell. While there, they spy a red phone and ask what the phone is for.
The devil tells them it is for calling back to Earth.
Putin asks to call Russia and talks for 5 minutes. When he is finished the devil informs him that the cost is a million dollars, so Putin writes him a check.
Next Queen Elizabeth calls England and talks for 30 minutes. When she is finished the devil informs her that the cost is 6 million dollars, so she writes him a check.
Finally George Bush gets his turn and talks for 4 hours. When he is finished the devil informs him that the cost is $5.00.
When Putin hears this he goes ballistic and asks the devil why Bush got to call the USA so cheaply.
The devil smiles and replies, " Since Obama took over, the USA has gone to hell, so it's a local call."
Yep, England and Russia are much better places to raise a family and make a living than the US...and I hear there's transportation available to each of those countries every day....for those interested.
Greene

Blytheville, AR

#19286 Dec 13, 2012
Redd wrote:
<quoted text>
And of course you do?
I love it how some of you think by referring to a opposing poster as feminine somehow belittles them. Says a lot.
I know what you mean, it doesn't belittle Barney, he likes to be referred to as a woman.
Redd

United States

#19287 Dec 13, 2012
Greene wrote:
<quoted text>
I know what you mean, it doesn't belittle Barney, he likes to be referred to as a woman.
Get used to this, Hillary will be your President come 2016, shoulda been in 2008.
Greene

Blytheville, AR

#19288 Dec 13, 2012
Redd wrote:
<quoted text>
Get used to this, Hillary will be your President come 2016, shoulda been in 2008.
I would have voted for her in'08
Reality Check

United States

#19289 Dec 13, 2012
dont know nothin wrote:
<quoted text>PART V—REINSURANCE AND RISK ADJUSTMENT
11 SEC. 1341. TRANSITIONAL REINSURANCE PROGRAM FOR IN12
DIVIDUAL AND SMALL GROUP MARKETS IN
13 EACH STATE.
14 (a) IN GENERAL.—Each State shall, not later than
15 January 1, 2014—
16 (1) include in the Federal standards or State
17 law or regulation the State adopts and has in effect
18 under section 1321(b) the provisions described in sub19
section (b); and
20 (2) establish (or enter into a contract with) 1 or
21 more applicable reinsurance entities to carry out the
22 reinsurance program under this section.
23 (b) MODEL REGULATION.—
24 (1) IN GENERAL.—In establishing the Federal
25 standards under section 1321(a), the Secretary, in
227
HR 3590 EAS/PP
1 consultation with the National Association of Insur2
ance Commissioners (the ‘‘NAIC’’), shall include pro3
visions that enable States to establish and maintain
4 a program under which—
5 (A) health insurance issuers, and third
6 party administrators on behalf of group health
7 plans, are required to make payments to an ap8
plicable reinsurance entity for any plan year be9
ginning in the 3-year period beginning January
10 1, 2014 (as specified in paragraph (3); and
11 (B) the applicable reinsurance entity col12
lects payments under subparagraph (A) and uses
13 amounts so collected to make reinsurance pay14
ments to health insurance issuers described in
15 subparagraph (A) that cover high risk individ16
uals in the individual market (excluding grand17
fathered health plans) for any plan year begin18
ning in such 3-year period.
19 (2) HIGH-RISK INDIVIDUAL; PAYMENT
20 AMOUNTS.—The Secretary shall include the following
21 in the provisions under paragraph (1):
22 (A) DETERMINATION OF HIGH-RISK INDI23
VIDUALS.—The method by which individuals will
24 be identified as high risk individuals for pur25
poses of the reinsurance program established
228
HR 3590 EAS/PP
1 under this section. Such method shall provide for
2 identification of individuals as high-risk indi3
viduals on the basis of—
4 (i) a list of at least 50 but not more
5 than 100 medical conditions that are iden6
tified as high-risk conditions and that may
7 be based on the identification of diagnostic
8 and procedure codes that are indicative of
9 individuals with pre-existing, high-risk con10
ditions; or
11 (ii) any other comparable objective
12 method of identification recommended by
13 the American Academy of Actuaries.
14 (B) PAYMENT AMOUNT.—The formula for
15 determining the amount of payments that will be
16 paid to health insurance issuers described in
17 paragraph (1)(A) that insure high-risk individ18
uals.
there is no fee...don't care if you own your own business and your definition is not wikipedias
14 (B) PAYMENT AMOUNT.—The formula for
15 determining the amount of payments that will be
16 paid to health insurance issuers described in
17 paragraph (1)(A) that insure high-risk individ18
uals.
This came from the very post I am comenting on. The reinsurance is the fee. I know you don't care if I own my own company but at least post the facts when making an argument. You seem to be proud about your posts being factual and accurate. I was just pointing out another flaw in a long line of flaws your posts contain. Maybe you should quit saying that you are always factual. That way you will lose your credebility a little slower.
Doesnt know anytheither e

Jonesboro, AR

#19290 Dec 13, 2012
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
14 (B) PAYMENT AMOUNT.—The formula for
15 determining the amount of payments that will be
16 paid to health insurance issuers described in
17 paragraph (1)(A) that insure high-risk individ18
uals.
This came from the very post I am comenting on. The reinsurance is the fee. I know you don't care if I own my own company but at least post the facts when making an argument. You seem to be proud about your posts being factual and accurate. I was just pointing out another flaw in a long line of flaws your posts contain. Maybe you should quit saying that you are always factual. That way you will lose your credebility a little slower.
If he were to print facts, he couldn't make his point. Just wait til he starts using statistics.
Redd

United States

#19291 Dec 13, 2012
Doesnt know anytheither e wrote:
<quoted text>
If he were to print facts, he couldn't make his point. Just wait til he starts using statistics.
He..I thought you fellows thought he was a she?
Doesnt know anytheither e

Jonesboro, AR

#19292 Dec 13, 2012
Redd wrote:
<quoted text>
He..I thought you fellows thought he was a she?
If he/she isn't sure what he/she wants to be, how could we?
Curmudgeon

Bexar, AR

#19293 Dec 13, 2012
Redd wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep, England and Russia are much better places to raise a family and make a living than the US...and I hear there's transportation available to each of those countries every day....for those interested.
actually there isnt very much difference. both those countries have folks immigrating to them. both have not enough jobs for the citizens who want to work. both have too many parasites and not enough producers. Both are suffering because of the UN and NWO agenda of redistribution of wealth. Russia has tremendious natural resources . land oil timber minerals & ore. After the pole shift changes the climate Siberia will be warmer & wetter it will take the place of the mississippi delta as the bread basket of the world. The delta will be a swamp and a inland sea. As for the goverment ours only gives lip service to the counstition & bill of rights. One individual can declare Martial Law and its all gone. So in effect we have a king or dictator. And you can bet your booties that person wants to be the first leader of the NWO. If Texas secedes from the union the Churmudgeon would try to be a citizen of the Texas Republic.
Redd

United States

#19294 Dec 13, 2012
Curmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text> If Texas secedes from the union the Churmudgeon would try to be a citizen of the Texas Republic.
Won't happen, when Texas joined the Confederacy against the United States they nullified any pre-existing agreements.

But you're welcome to leave at any time.
Curmudgeon

Bexar, AR

#19296 Dec 13, 2012
Redd wrote:
<quoted text>
Won't happen, when Texas joined the Confederacy against the United States they nullified any pre-existing agreements.
But you're welcome to leave at any time.
The civil war proved the states could leave the union. If that wasnt the case why did they make them all reapply for readmission? And yes I can see myself leaving the USA. Ive done really well. But my grandchildern are having a devil of a time. Inflation has eaten away their gains. And the politicians who endorse the UN agenda has stolden their counstitiona & god given rights. If the New Madrid happens Ill be gone.
Obamanation

Searcy, AR

#19297 Dec 13, 2012
Little Red Hen 2012

"Who will help me plant my wheat?" asked the little red hen.

"Not I," said the cow.

"Not I," said the duck.

"Not I," said the pig.

"Not I," said the goose.

"Then I will do it by myself." She planted her crop and the wheat grew and
ripened.

"Who will help me reap my wheat?" asked the little red hen.

"Not I," said the duck.

"Out of my classification," said the pig.

"I'd lose my seniority," said the cow.

"I'd lose my unemployment compensation," said the goose.

"Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen, and so she did.

"Who will help me bake the bread?" asked the little red hen.

"That would be overtime for me," said the cow.

"I'd lose my welfare benefits," said the duck.

"I'm a dropout and never learned how," said the pig.

"If I'm to be the only helper, that's discrimination," said the goose.

"Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen.

She baked five loaves and held them up for all of her neighbors to see.
They wanted some and, in fact, demanded a share but the little red hen
said, "No, I shall eat all five loaves."

"Excess profits!" cried the cow..(Nancy Pelosi)

"Capitalist leech!" screamed the duck.(Barbara Boxer)

"I demand equal rights!" yelled the goose.(Jesse Jackson)

The pig just grunted in disdain..(Harry Reid)

And they all painted 'Unfair!' picket signs and marched around and around
the little red hen, shouting obscenities.

When the farmer (Obama) came he said to the little red hen, "You must not
be so greedy."

"But I worked, I earned the bread," said the little red hen.

"Exactly," said Barack the farmer. "That is what makes our free enterprise
system so wonderful. Anyone in the barnyard can earn as much as he wants.
But under our modern government regulations, the productive workers must
divide the fruits of their labor with those who are lazy and idle."

And they all lived happily ever after, including the little red hen, who
smiled and clucked, "I am grateful, for now I truly understand."

But her neighbors became quite disappointed in her. She never again baked
bread because she joined the 'party' and got her bread free. And all the
Democrats smiled.'Fairness' had been established.

Individual initiative had died but nobody noticed; perhaps no one cared so
long as there was free bread that 'the rich' were paying for.

And perhaps....this is the end..........
No, not the end because after a while,
there was no bread, or anything else to eat. So, they
all starved equally. Now. The End

EPILOGUE

Bill Clinton is getting $12 million for his memoirs.

Hillary got $8 million for hers.

That's $20 million for the memories from two people, who for eight years
repeatedly testified, under oath, that they couldn't remember anything.

DO WE LIVE IN A GREAT BARNYARD OR WHAT?
Old Army

Vilonia, AR

#19299 Dec 13, 2012
Redd wrote:
<quoted text>
And of course you do?
I love it how some of you think by referring to a opposing poster as feminine somehow belittles them. Says a lot.
Kind of like your repetitive claim that rubes watch Fox News just to see some leg. Double standard liberal.
Redd

United States

#19300 Dec 13, 2012
Curmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text> The civil war proved the states could leave the union. If that wasnt the case why did they make them all reapply for readmission? And yes I can see myself leaving the USA. Ive done really well. But my grandchildern are having a devil of a time. Inflation has eaten away their gains. And the politicians who endorse the UN agenda has stolden their counstitiona & god given rights. If the New Madrid happens Ill be gone.
The States comprising the Confederacy never legally left the Union. I was referring to the agreement made with Texas upon their original entry into the Union

Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700 (1869) was a significant case argued before the United States Supreme Court in 1869. The case involved a claim by the Reconstruction government of Texas that United States bonds owned by Texas since 1850 had been illegally sold by the Confederate state legislature during the American Civil War. The state filed suit directly with the United States Supreme Court, which, under the United States Constitution, retains original jurisdiction on certain cases in which a state is a party.
In accepting original jurisdiction, the court ruled that Texas had remained a state ever since it first joined the Union, despite its joining the Confederate States of America and its being under military rule at the time of the decision in the case. In deciding the merits of the bond issue, the court further held that the Constitution did not permit states to unilaterally secede from the United States, and that the ordinances of secession, and all the acts of the legislatures within seceding states intended to give effect to such ordinances, were "absolutely null".

True about the New Madrid, just a matter of time.
Redd

United States

#19301 Dec 13, 2012
Old Army wrote:
<quoted text>
Kind of like your repetitive claim that rubes watch Fox News just to see some leg. Double standard liberal.
Originally, but I see where your right-wing screwball logic comes to that conclusion.

Since: Dec 10

Kansas City Ks.

#19302 Dec 13, 2012
Obamanation wrote:
Little Red Hen 2012
"Who will help me plant my wheat?" asked the little red hen.
"Not I," said the cow.
"Not I," said the duck.
"Not I," said the pig.
"Not I," said the goose.
"Then I will do it by myself." She planted her crop and the wheat grew and
ripened.
"Who will help me reap my wheat?" asked the little red hen.
"Not I," said the duck.
"Out of my classification," said the pig.
"I'd lose my seniority," said the cow.
"I'd lose my unemployment compensation," said the goose.
"Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen, and so she did.
"Who will help me bake the bread?" asked the little red hen.
"That would be overtime for me," said the cow.
"I'd lose my welfare benefits," said the duck.
"I'm a dropout and never learned how," said the pig.
"If I'm to be the only helper, that's discrimination," said the goose.
"Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen.
She baked five loaves and held them up for all of her neighbors to see.
They wanted some and, in fact, demanded a share but the little red hen
said, "No, I shall eat all five loaves."
"Excess profits!" cried the cow..(Nancy Pelosi)
"Capitalist leech!" screamed the duck.(Barbara Boxer)
"I demand equal rights!" yelled the goose.(Jesse Jackson)
The pig just grunted in disdain..(Harry Reid)
And they all painted 'Unfair!' picket signs and marched around and around
the little red hen, shouting obscenities.
When the farmer (Obama) came he said to the little red hen, "You must not
be so greedy."
"But I worked, I earned the bread," said the little red hen.
"Exactly," said Barack the farmer. "That is what makes our free enterprise
system so wonderful. Anyone in the barnyard can earn as much as he wants.
But under our modern government regulations, the productive workers must
divide the fruits of their labor with those who are lazy and idle."
And they all lived happily ever after, including the little red hen, who
smiled and clucked, "I am grateful, for now I truly understand."
But her neighbors became quite disappointed in her. She never again baked
bread because she joined the 'party' and got her bread free. And all the
Democrats smiled.'Fairness' had been established.
Individual initiative had died but nobody noticed; perhaps no one cared so
long as there was free bread that 'the rich' were paying for.
And perhaps....this is the end..........
No, not the end because after a while,
there was no bread, or anything else to eat. So, they
all starved equally. Now. The End
EPILOGUE
Bill Clinton is getting $12 million for his memoirs.
Hillary got $8 million for hers.
That's $20 million for the memories from two people, who for eight years
repeatedly testified, under oath, that they couldn't remember anything.
DO WE LIVE IN A GREAT BARNYARD OR WHAT?
It would be a greater "BARNYARD" if it contained less bovine emissions.
Redd

United States

#19305 Dec 13, 2012
Obamanation wrote:
Little Red Hen 2012
"Who will help me plant my wheat?" asked the little red hen.
"Not I," said the cow.
"Not I," said the duck.
"Not I," said the pig.
"Not I," said the goose.
"Then I will do it by myself." She planted her crop and the wheat grew and
ripened.
"Who will help me reap my wheat?" asked the little red hen.
"Not I," said the duck.
"Out of my classification," said the pig.
"I'd lose my seniority," said the cow.
"I'd lose my unemployment compensation," said the goose.
"Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen, and so she did.
"Who will help me bake the bread?" asked the little red hen.
"That would be overtime for me," said the cow.
"I'd lose my welfare benefits," said the duck.
"I'm a dropout and never learned how," said the pig.
"If I'm to be the only helper, that's discrimination," said the goose.
"Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen.
She baked five loaves and held them up for all of her neighbors to see.
They wanted some and, in fact, demanded a share but the little red hen
said, "No, I shall eat all five loaves."
"Excess profits!" cried the cow..(Nancy Pelosi)
"Capitalist leech!" screamed the duck.(Barbara Boxer)
"I demand equal rights!" yelled the goose.(Jesse Jackson)
The pig just grunted in disdain..(Harry Reid)
And they all painted 'Unfair!' picket signs and marched around and around
the little red hen, shouting obscenities.
When the farmer (Obama) came he said to the little red hen, "You must not
be so greedy."
"But I worked, I earned the bread," said the little red hen.
"Exactly," said Barack the farmer. "That is what makes our free enterprise
system so wonderful. Anyone in the barnyard can earn as much as he wants.
But under our modern government regulations, the productive workers must
divide the fruits of their labor with those who are lazy and idle."
And they all lived happily ever after, including the little red hen, who
smiled and clucked, "I am grateful, for now I truly understand."
But her neighbors became quite disappointed in her. She never again baked
bread because she joined the 'party' and got her bread free. And all the
Democrats smiled.'Fairness' had been established.
Individual initiative had died but nobody noticed; perhaps no one cared so
long as there was free bread that 'the rich' were paying for.
And perhaps....this is the end..........
No, not the end because after a while,
there was no bread, or anything else to eat. So, they
all starved equally. Now. The End
EPILOGUE
Bill Clinton is getting $12 million for his memoirs.
Hillary got $8 million for hers.
That's $20 million for the memories from two people, who for eight years
repeatedly testified, under oath, that they couldn't remember anything.
DO WE LIVE IN A GREAT BARNYARD OR WHAT?
Pocket change, a woman recently received a hundred million for her formula for low calorie alcoholic mixed drinks.

Besides Chickens make cornbread.

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