old bridge into pikeville

old bridge into pikeville

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misty

Dunlap, TN

#1 Jan 15, 2013
Why r huges sections of the guardrail missing?
just me

Dunlap, TN

#2 Jan 15, 2013
hell its like that every where,bridges every where..one word scrap iron haulers.and no laws in tn to regulate them.
looked at bridge

Pikeville, TN

#3 Jan 16, 2013
No sections missing, if you take time to look under the bridge (while the river is not out of banks) you will find them laying right where they fell. suspect kids with nothing better to do pushed the concrete off the bridge. As far as the scrap iron theory, I suspect it is about 95% concrete, not enough iron to be attractive to thieves.
misty

Dunlap, TN

#4 Jan 16, 2013
looked at bridge wrote:
No sections missing, if you take time to look under the bridge (while the river is not out of banks) you will find them laying right where they fell. suspect kids with nothing better to do pushed the concrete off the bridge. As far as the scrap iron theory, I suspect it is about 95% concrete, not enough iron to be attractive to thieves.
Some people near by want that old bridge destroyed;could be takeing her down little at a time.
mike

United States

#5 Jan 17, 2013
misty wrote:
<quoted text>Some people near by want that old bridge destroyed;could be takeing her down little at a time.
That bridge is over 50 years old part of the reason they moved 30 to where it is now...
really

United States

#6 Jan 17, 2013
That bridge is not safe to drive over and school busses go over it all the time. Not just bridges, just look how bad the roads, sewer system, and all are. City and county mayors need to tell us just how bad the money situation really is.
mike

Cookeville, TN

#7 Jan 17, 2013
really wrote:
That bridge is not safe to drive over and school busses go over it all the time. Not just bridges, just look how bad the roads, sewer system, and all are. City and county mayors need to tell us just how bad the money situation really is.
They tried to close it but PAT ROBERSON screamed murder about it despite the fact they are no homes on that route [old 30] and it narrow and old in fact he tried to claim his family owned the road..
misty

Dunlap, TN

#8 Jan 17, 2013
mike wrote:
<quoted text>They tried to close it but PAT ROBERSON screamed murder about it despite the fact they are no homes on that route [old 30] and it narrow and old in fact he tried to claim his family owned the road..
u r so right,pikeville needs that old bridge,this is a shortcut into town.The state should be notified and it fixed.We pay a lot of gas taxes,that is meant to fix the roads,why can't 30 east up the mt get fixed? School children are bused up and down that dangerous rd.five days a wk.
mike

Cookeville, TN

#9 Jan 18, 2013
misty wrote:
<quoted text>u r so right,pikeville needs that old bridge,this is a shortcut into town.The state should be notified and it fixed.We pay a lot of gas taxes,that is meant to fix the roads,why can't 30 east up the mt get fixed? School children are bused up and down that dangerous rd.five days a wk.
First off the bridge longer belongs to the state but the city or county and road up the mountain is unstable[landslides]that why they never finished it MISTY..
misty

Dunlap, TN

#10 Jan 18, 2013
mike wrote:
<quoted text>First off the bridge longer belongs to the state but the city or county and road up the mountain is unstable[landslides]that why they never finished it MISTY..
If the dam road is so unstable,can't be fixed,dangerous to drive on,then why r the children being transported up and down it five days a wk? TDOT needs to repair this road{hw 30}or find someone who can.The road is not the only thing unstable,TDOT is for sure keeping it open. One more thing,i dislike u too.
mike

Cookeville, TN

#11 Jan 19, 2013
misty wrote:
<quoted text>If the dam road is so unstable,can't be fixed,dangerous to drive on,then why r the children being transported up and down it five days a wk? TDOT needs to repair this road{hw 30}or find someone who can.The road is not the only thing unstable,TDOT is for sure keeping it open. One more thing,i dislike u too.
Again the bridge no longer belongs to the state that was done when they rerouted 30 as for the mountain stretch again its landslides its just unstable..
Pat Roberson

Pikeville, TN

#12 Jan 26, 2013
For the record, the state had plans to demolish the old bridge and the road by scarifying (plow up with bulldozer and then spread small amount of soil over it and plant in grass. I in fact did petition the state to leave pavement as it was to make a decent road across the farm. The old bridge was built in 1927 with an agreement between state authorities and my grandmother. There was never a right of way purchased and my grandmother granted easement to the state with the understanding if the road was ever taken out of state control, it would revert back to the farm. In the 1970's state legislator passed a law to turn all easements to right of ways without paying for any of it. Hence the name of Stolen Highway was correctly applied to this stretch of road. Local business owners begged the state to leave the bridge after I got approval to leave the pavement.(Yes, I have enjoyed the shortcut to town which saves me a whole quarter of a mile to the middle of town.)With the agreement from the state, the city of Pikeville must now maintain the bridge and road with no additional funds from the state to be supplied. Cost of replacing the bridge, just my estimate 2 million dollars. According to state bridge inspectors a bridge will be condemned in 20 years from time of completion if no maintenance is done.
Let's be real for a few minutes. using the figures of a 2 million dollar bridge with a life span of 20 years, it would cost $273.97 every day to just replace the bridge over 20 years, no maintenance included. If 2000 cars a day cross the bridge, it would cost 13.6985 cents per car to cross it. to have 2000 cars a day cross the bridge that would amount to one car ever 43.2 seconds every day of the week. That traffic volume is not there even on school days. There may be a thousand cars a day that crosses the bridge, This would raise the amount of cost to over 27 cents per car to replace it.
Considering the cost of gas at $3.50 per gallon, most cars get 20 mpg, the cost of gas per car is only 4 cents per trip to make the longer trip. add another dime on wear and tear on a car this would bring the total cost per commuter to 14 cents to drive around the extra 1/4 mile to town. It would be a savings to tax payers for the city to pay every one who uses the bridge 20 cents for their added cost than to replace the bridge.
mike

Cookeville, TN

#13 Jan 26, 2013
Pat Roberson wrote:
For the record, the state had plans to demolish the old bridge and the road by scarifying (plow up with bulldozer and then spread small amount of soil over it and plant in grass. I in fact did petition the state to leave pavement as it was to make a decent road across the farm. The old bridge was built in 1927 with an agreement between state authorities and my grandmother. There was never a right of way purchased and my grandmother granted easement to the state with the understanding if the road was ever taken out of state control, it would revert back to the farm. In the 1970's state legislator passed a law to turn all easements to right of ways without paying for any of it. Hence the name of Stolen Highway was correctly applied to this stretch of road. Local business owners begged the state to leave the bridge after I got approval to leave the pavement.(Yes, I have enjoyed the shortcut to town which saves me a whole quarter of a mile to the middle of town.)With the agreement from the state, the city of Pikeville must now maintain the bridge and road with no additional funds from the state to be supplied. Cost of replacing the bridge, just my estimate 2 million dollars. According to state bridge inspectors a bridge will be condemned in 20 years from time of completion if no maintenance is done.
Let's be real for a few minutes. using the figures of a 2 million dollar bridge with a life span of 20 years, it would cost $273.97 every day to just replace the bridge over 20 years, no maintenance included. If 2000 cars a day cross the bridge, it would cost 13.6985 cents per car to cross it. to have 2000 cars a day cross the bridge that would amount to one car ever 43.2 seconds every day of the week. That traffic volume is not there even on school days. There may be a thousand cars a day that crosses the bridge, This would raise the amount of cost to over 27 cents per car to replace it.
Considering the cost of gas at $3.50 per gallon, most cars get 20 mpg, the cost of gas per car is only 4 cents per trip to make the longer trip. add another dime on wear and tear on a car this would bring the total cost per commuter to 14 cents to drive around the extra 1/4 mile to town. It would be a savings to tax payers for the city to pay every one who uses the bridge 20 cents for their added cost than to replace the bridge.
YOU WANT PEOPLE TO PAY A TOLL TO USE THE BRIDGE-be serious PAT-your fought that battle and lost get over it man.Besides as a measure of revenge you had it named STOLEN HIGHWAY and besise not many vechiles use it anyway...
Pat Roberson

Pikeville, TN

#14 Jan 26, 2013
no where did I mention a toll booth, I merely put the cost of a new bridge into perspective. I have not lost any battles, and I have a powerful back up on my side, Nature will take care of the bridge and road if no repairs are made. The clock is ticking and the bridge is crumbling at the bases. I sure hope no one gets hurt before city leaders take action to close it.
taxpayer

United States

#15 Jan 26, 2013
Fact is, the bridge is dangerous to drive on and our city don't have the money to fix it. Have you seen how bad the roads are? The bridge and that whole road should have been let go. Our town is to broke to fix it
joey

Dunlap, TN

#16 Jan 26, 2013
Pat Roberson wrote:
For the record, the state had plans to demolish the old bridge and the road by scarifying (plow up with bulldozer and then spread small amount of soil over it and plant in grass. I in fact did petition the state to leave pavement as it was to make a decent road across the farm. The old bridge was built in 1927 with an agreement between state authorities and my grandmother. There was never a right of way purchased and my grandmother granted easement to the state with the understanding if the road was ever taken out of state control, it would revert back to the farm. In the 1970's state legislator passed a law to turn all easements to right of ways without paying for any of it. Hence the name of Stolen Highway was correctly applied to this stretch of road. Local business owners begged the state to leave the bridge after I got approval to leave the pavement.(Yes, I have enjoyed the shortcut to town which saves me a whole quarter of a mile to the middle of town.)With the agreement from the state, the city of Pikeville must now maintain the bridge and road with no additional funds from the state to be supplied. Cost of replacing the bridge, just my estimate 2 million dollars. According to state bridge inspectors a bridge will be condemned in 20 years from time of completion if no maintenance is done.
Let's be real for a few minutes. using the figures of a 2 million dollar bridge with a life span of 20 years, it would cost $273.97 every day to just replace the bridge over 20 years, no maintenance included. If 2000 cars a day cross the bridge, it would cost 13.6985 cents per car to cross it. to have 2000 cars a day cross the bridge that would amount to one car ever 43.2 seconds every day of the week. That traffic volume is not there even on school days. There may be a thousand cars a day that crosses the bridge, This would raise the amount of cost to over 27 cents per car to replace it.
Considering the cost of gas at $3.50 per gallon, most cars get 20 mpg, the cost of gas per car is only 4 cents per trip to make the longer trip. add another dime on wear and tear on a car this would bring the total cost per commuter to 14 cents to drive around the extra 1/4 mile to town. It would be a savings to tax payers for the city to pay every one who uses the bridge 20 cents for their added cost than to replace the bridge.
the bridge don't belong to the state,they have no reason to inspect or condemn it.Anyway,the bridge is in better shape,than highway 30,up the mountian.TDOT can't build a road over a hill,they sure can;t build a bridge.With a little work,that strech of realestate would make a good walking path.
just me

United States

#17 Jan 26, 2013
Pat Roberson wrote:
no where did I mention a toll booth, I merely put the cost of a new bridge into perspective. I have not lost any battles, and I have a powerful back up on my side, Nature will take care of the bridge and road if no repairs are made. The clock is ticking and the bridge is crumbling at the bases. I sure hope no one gets hurt before city leaders take action to close it.
heard the city is working with a local firm to do a complete rebuild guess who that firm is

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