Bill Hickman/Frankie Justice

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Pike Countian

Phelps, KY

#1 Jul 11, 2010
Should these 2 people resign from their appointed/elected positions?
district six

Pikeville, KY

#2 Jul 11, 2010
Pike Countian wrote:
Should these 2 people resign from their appointed/elected positions?
They should resign in shame. The sleaze factor surrounding these two is a 100+. A stigma of corruption and cronyism is all over them now, and it includes Senator Ray S. Jones! Issues relative to their 'secret' relationship and backroom dealings are under close scrutiny. Some are actually hoping their plan works, so there will be more problems for them.
Floyd Countian

Phelps, KY

#3 Jul 11, 2010
Where does your County Judge fit in all of this? It's like he is not opposed to any of the things going on in your County that involve UMG or the City of Pikeville. Your Water District is being run by a company who ran illegal, untrue, and malicious political ads against a Magistrate/Lawyer. They are involved in a Whistleblower suit. The list of questionable activities goes on and on and on and I understand the State Auditor is in town. At what point will someone say enough is enough, let's make Pike County proud and not the laughing stock of the Commonwealth.
district six

Pikeville, KY

#4 Jul 11, 2010
Floyd Countian wrote:
Where does your County Judge fit in all of this? It's like he is not opposed to any of the things going on in your County that involve UMG or the City of Pikeville. Your Water District is being run by a company who ran illegal, untrue, and malicious political ads against a Magistrate/Lawyer. They are involved in a Whistleblower suit. The list of questionable activities goes on and on and on and I understand the State Auditor is in town. At what point will someone say enough is enough, let's make Pike County proud and not the laughing stock of the Commonwealth.
Very well said! Their county judge is the mayor's puppet. He has either sat idly by, or participated in, several very questionable, and several obviously corrupt maneuvers by Little frankie. I don't know what hold the mayor has on HIS city commission members and the 'judge', but it's for damn sure he has NO pull, whatsoever on Chris Harris and Jeff Anderson.

I want to publicly thank Chris Harris and Jeff Anderson for standing up for Pike County, as the County and city officials try to bring us down. Had it not been for your bravery and honesty, we would, again, be ripped off by the already filthy rich who are in public office. We can only wish the 'judge' had some backbone. Keep up the good work!! You have the respect and admiration of Pike Countians.
funny

Winchester, KY

#5 Jul 11, 2010
People around here crack me up!!! Other elected officials were involved with this scandal, too, but no mention of that!! You just want the heads of a lacky and a city official. I am sure when the next election comes around all this will be forgotten where some are concerned.
district six

Pikeville, KY

#6 Jul 11, 2010
funny wrote:
People around here crack me up!!! Other elected officials were involved with this scandal, too, but no mention of that!! You just want the heads of a lacky and a city official. I am sure when the next election comes around all this will be forgotten where some are concerned.
"People around here"? Just what the hell does that mean? And just WHAT are you trying, and failing, to say? Give us a little of your gifted insight, so we can add to our list of criminals in office. Those among us who simply imply something, but fear naming names, comprise the biggest problem we have. From your post, you seem afraid to name the one/ones you refer to. There are way too many like you out there.... Accept the challenge? We will respect you for it. This is a public forum, and being that, is a place to vent our rage and/or opinion. We, the people, are damn sick of being taken to the cleaners by those giving us lip service. This scandal is not to be allowed to crawl under the rug, like the paid personal photographer and plaques of rutherford's face did. If enough of us speak out, there will be way too many for these 'boss hoggs' to reek their vengeance upon. Little frankie is prone to temper tantrums, but we far outnumber him and his puppets if we speak as one.
funny

Winchester, KY

#7 Jul 12, 2010
It shouldn't take a genius to figure out that the one who started this whole thing by forming the concerned citizens group and contributing to it is our very elected Senator Jones. I just find it odd that most people on this site and others are all for getting rid of Frankie Justice and now semmingly Bill Hickman, but very little, if anything, has been written or said about our elected Senator. All the blame seems to be landing at the mayor's feet. Yes, he should be punished for hitting Boggs, but he didn't start this scandal/power struggle with Chris Harris. There is even one thread that seems to blame Frankie Justice for starting the citizens group and using his power and influence to get the other parties involved. That is just crazy!!
I just wonder when election time rolls around who will be re-elected?
district six wrote:
<quoted text> "People around here"? Just what the hell does that mean? And just WHAT are you trying, and failing, to say? Give us a little of your gifted insight, so we can add to our list of criminals in office. Those among us who simply imply something, but fear naming names, comprise the biggest problem we have. From your post, you seem afraid to name the one/ones you refer to. There are way too many like you out there.... Accept the challenge? We will respect you for it. This is a public forum, and being that, is a place to vent our rage and/or opinion. We, the people, are damn sick of being taken to the cleaners by those giving us lip service. This scandal is not to be allowed to crawl under the rug, like the paid personal photographer and plaques of rutherford's face did. If enough of us speak out, there will be way too many for these 'boss hoggs' to reek their vengeance upon. Little frankie is prone to temper tantrums, but we far outnumber him and his puppets if we speak as one.
district six

Virgie, KY

#8 Jul 12, 2010
funny wrote:
It shouldn't take a genius to figure out that the one who started this whole thing by forming the concerned citizens group and contributing to it is our very elected Senator Jones. I just find it odd that most people on this site and others are all for getting rid of Frankie Justice and now semmingly Bill Hickman, but very little, if anything, has been written or said about our elected Senator. All the blame seems to be landing at the mayor's feet. Yes, he should be punished for hitting Boggs, but he didn't start this scandal/power struggle with Chris Harris. There is even one thread that seems to blame Frankie Justice for starting the citizens group and using his power and influence to get the other parties involved. That is just crazy!!
I just wonder when election time rolls around who will be re-elected?
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I must have missed something. Little frankie is the one I thought was the #1 culprit in this shameful episode in the county political mess. Was Ray Jones the 'mastermind' behind the whole thing? I understand he or family members stand to gain monetarily from some deal on pipe and the water system purchasers, but doesn't Frankie have some monetary interest in getting his way too?
Pike Countian

Virgie, KY

#9 Jul 12, 2010
Frankies monetary interest will probably be how much money is he going to have to pay Chris Harris for sponsoring a malicious, untrue, unproven, shameful attack ad against him. Hopefully some of the other people will have to pony up, like Greg, Ms. Litafik, Mr. Mcpeek, MGC, UMG, MWD, and all the others who think they are above the law! Chris, all i can say is you are the one who can change it for everyone. Word of Caution, if you get around Frankie, don't turn your back!
district six

Virgie, KY

#10 Jul 12, 2010
Pike Countian wrote:
Frankies monetary interest will probably be how much money is he going to have to pay Chris Harris for sponsoring a malicious, untrue, unproven, shameful attack ad against him. Hopefully some of the other people will have to pony up, like Greg, Ms. Litafik, Mr. Mcpeek, MGC, UMG, MWD, and all the others who think they are above the law! Chris, all i can say is you are the one who can change it for everyone. Word of Caution, if you get around Frankie, don't turn your back!
Little frankie justice will NOT attack someone he doesn't already know will lay down and take it.

I hope Chris Harris takes this to court. Has anyone heard the latest scuttlebutt on this subject? All these people associated with the water system who conspired to take Chris out of office should have to explain their combined fear/hatred for the same man by so many associated with the same companies. I can see where Senator Ray S. Jones apparently had something of monetary value to lose if Chris was blocking certin questionable ventures, but how were these others going to benefit?

How were Frankie and Bill Hickman planning to benefit by 'stacking' the airport board, when the previous board had shown superb management skills and ability with superior fiscal responsibility? There can be NO legal/moral reason for what Frankie did up there. Why did Frankie's city commissioners allow the mayor to make such an obviously personally motivated move?

When will the good people of the city of Pikeville and Pike county ever be able to hold their heads up and be proud of our political choices again? How can we know what a self-serving liar will do to get our votes next time? We need accountability in office, not just at the polls, but mid term, and all other times an elected official is representing us, and himself, as our emissary and champion of honesty in Eastern Kentucky government.

Sleazy politicians, such as we are witnessing now, are making us look like Kentucky's, and indeed, the entire country's 'court jesters'.
Pike Countian

Virgie, KY

#11 Jul 12, 2010
Rumor has it that in District One the City teamed up with Darrell Pugh to try and take the Anderson boy out because he took a stance on some water and sewer issues. I even heard the City Manager and the Commissioners had signs in their yards for the Pugh man. What is going on with all the water/sewer stuff anyway and what the hell is going over at Mountain Water?
i believe

Winchester, KY

#12 Jul 12, 2010
district six wrote:
<quoted text> Little frankie justice will NOT attack someone he doesn't already know will lay down and take it.
I hope Chris Harris takes this to court. Has anyone heard the latest scuttlebutt on this subject? All these people associated with the water system who conspired to take Chris out of office should have to explain their combined fear/hatred for the same man by so many associated with the same companies. I can see where Senator Ray S. Jones apparently had something of monetary value to lose if Chris was blocking certin questionable ventures, but how were these others going to benefit?
How were Frankie and Bill Hickman planning to benefit by 'stacking' the airport board, when the previous board had shown superb management skills and ability with superior fiscal responsibility? There can be NO legal/moral reason for what Frankie did up there. Why did Frankie's city commissioners allow the mayor to make such an obviously personally motivated move?
When will the good people of the city of Pikeville and Pike county ever be able to hold their heads up and be proud of our political choices again? How can we know what a self-serving liar will do to get our votes next time? We need accountability in office, not just at the polls, but mid term, and all other times an elected official is representing us, and himself, as our emissary and champion of honesty in Eastern Kentucky government.
Sleazy politicians, such as we are witnessing now, are making us look like Kentucky's, and indeed, the entire country's 'court jesters'.
I believe Mr Hickman is just Ray Jones' answer boy. He is his partner at the law firm, so he probably just does what he is told - like serve on the board and donate to the concerned citizens group Ray and UMG started. I seriously doubt he and Frankie conspired together to "stack" the airport board. Doesn't the county judge have something to do with appointments to the airport board, too?
funny

Winchester, KY

#13 Jul 12, 2010
district six wrote:
<quoted text> I must have missed something. Little frankie is the one I thought was the #1 culprit in this shameful episode in the county political mess. Was Ray Jones the 'mastermind' behind the whole thing? I understand he or family members stand to gain monetarily from some deal on pipe and the water system purchasers, but doesn't Frankie have some monetary interest in getting his way too?
Yes, you did miss something. The very first article ANE printed about the Citizens for Eastern Ky Government stated that the group originally had received donations, at that time, from Jones and Hickman and UMG for the advertisements bashing Chris Harris. Later the paper discovered that Jerry's and some others from out of the area had later donated, too. The paper states that the mayor was asked by the members of the group to donate. Maybe Ray wasn't the "mastermind" but he jumped on the bandwagon pretty quick. It does seem that Jones and his family would stand to gain monetarily. Frankie's part doesn't seem as financially connected as does he just wanted revenge on Chris Harris for "not being a friend of the city". Translation- wouldn't do what Frankie told him to do.
district six

Virgie, KY

#14 Jul 12, 2010
Pike Countian wrote:
Rumor has it that in District One the City teamed up with Darrell Pugh to try and take the Anderson boy out because he took a stance on some water and sewer issues. I even heard the City Manager and the Commissioners had signs in their yards for the Pugh man. What is going on with all the water/sewer stuff anyway and what the hell is going over at Mountain Water?
It's more than just rumor, my friend. Apparently the mayor and his lemmings sought to 'stack' the Fiscal Court of Pike County, just as they did the Pike County Airport board. Now, rumor DOES have it that Frankie was absolutely irate and inconsolable when his handpicked people failed to unseat two HONEST Magistrates. Jeff Anderson was under fire by the city the same as Chriss Harris. Those appear to be the only two seats the city was interested in changing. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to look at that situation, and justifiably ascertain that those two magistrates are the only ones standing in the way of some mighty suspicious activity by our elected officials.

When Frankie was first asked about the newly discovered and breaking story of his DEEP involvement in the contemptible and scurrilous lies told on Chris Harris, and later withdrawn from local networks, he passed the buck to his sidekick Donovan Blackburn for answers. This seems mighty strange, that the mayor would USE the city paid manager to answer for his PERSONAL evil, and most like illegal actions. Then poor Donovan, possibly under threat, made excuses that Frankie didn't know where the donated money went. Later, the story was that Frankie did it because he thought Chris Harris didn't have the city's interest at heart. Which story are we to believe? One HAS to be a damn LIE, and possibly BOTH are. How do we know when Frankie is lying? Could it be any, and every time his mouth is moving?

I don't like coming down on anyone like this, but where is the outrage? We TRUSTED this 'man', and we trusted Senator Ray S Jones. We need to demand the two men step down in disgrace. If they are the people they pretended to be when running for office, they would have already done the only honorable thing. But there seems to be NO HONOR in their lives nor in their attitudes toward their own constituents.
Pike Countian

Virgie, KY

#15 Jul 12, 2010
Where is the KY Bar Association in all of this activity by two licensed attorneys against another licensed attorney. If this is what it's coming to in Pike County, I say we declare MARTIAL LAW and let Frankie and Crew bitchslap away!
district six

Virgie, KY

#16 Jul 12, 2010
i believe wrote:
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I believe Mr Hickman is just Ray Jones' answer boy. He is his partner at the law firm, so he probably just does what he is told - like serve on the board and donate to the concerned citizens group Ray and UMG started. I seriously doubt he and Frankie conspired together to "stack" the airport board. Doesn't the county judge have something to do with appointments to the airport board, too?
You raise some qood questions, and I know someone who can straighten me out with answers. I do know the mayor appoints part of the board, and the city the other. I'll get back later with the low down on what happened. Ray Jones is not supposed to be able to appoint his partner to the chair of any board that I know of. But it looks like he had a big say in what was done.
What Justice

Lawrenceburg, KY

#17 Jul 12, 2010
Wait until you see how much Severance Tax the City of Pikeville has requested this Year. It is unfair to the rest of the County, but the City Commission doesn't seem to care?
Laughing

Pikeville, KY

#18 Jul 12, 2010
This bologna beats about anything I've read in a while. Like the Citizens used to hold their head up and chest stuck out all full of pride. Proud of our political choices as they were referred to in an earlier post. Sounds like more of the same that has always went on and will continue. Only this time a few more are mad because they are getting left out. So they are trying to stir people up so they can get in and get a few dollars too. One poster even stooped so low as to call a couple of them honest Politicians, like such a thing actually exists. A person that would believe that would surely believe in bigfoot, Santa, Aliens, and the tooth fairy. Get real, the people know this is a bunch of bull and know that nothing will really change. Only thing that really changes is the people who are doing it. Seems this time a couple feel left out and are determined to try to get theirs too. The people don't really give a flying crap about all the silly infighting. We will hold our heads up, but not because of any of you.
Hmmm

Hardy, VA

#19 Jul 12, 2010
The problem with the people around here is they just lay down and keep letting them do it to them.You can't blame them if they fill their pockets with money everyday, because not having a backbone and stand up to it they will keep doing it.Don't call Jack Conway from what I have heard he is just trying to fill his pockets.If justice is one way then we don't need it here in KY.
Laughing

Pikeville, KY

#20 Jul 13, 2010
Hmmm wrote:
The problem with the people around here is they just lay down and keep letting them do it to them.You can't blame them if they fill their pockets with money everyday, because not having a backbone and stand up to it they will keep doing it.Don't call Jack Conway from what I have heard he is just trying to fill his pockets.If justice is one way then we don't need it here in KY.
Just more of the same, only got a few whining because they aren't in the click and want to stir up a rukus so they can get in. Too bad the people have heard it all before and could care less either way, knowing even if they change the people, nothing will change.

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