The Future of Eastern Kentucky

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Since: May 10

Elkhorn City, KY

#1 Oct 15, 2013
Please Sign the Petition John Hatfield have started.
https://www.change.org/petitions/congress-rep...
here are some job idea's for here
Textile Mills
Plastic Mills
Metal and Steel Mills
Paper Mills
Factories
Activated Carbon Industries

Since: May 10

Elkhorn City, KY

#2 Oct 15, 2013
Never Happen

Clay City, KY

#3 Oct 15, 2013
Boys and girls you are about 50 years to late, Federal government is broke, State is broke or will be when they lose their share of coal severance that goes into the general fund. dounty is broke and we are getting less coal severance, will be cut to nothing over time.
The coal severance was set up to do what you are asking for, non-coal jobs, diversify for a time such as this when the coal industry is going away.

Good luck but it ain't going to happen, we are going back to an impoverished, backwater rural area with nothing but poverty and misery and no hope. You can thank the Judge Exec and fiscal courts over the last 50 years for the mess we are in today. Wasted the coal severance for over 30 years and none of them ever tried to get non coal industry in here.

Since: May 10

Elkhorn City, KY

#4 Oct 15, 2013
Well if we always say things will never work and dont give them a try they wont work but if we start standing together yes they will work.
Larry

Pikeville, KY

#5 Oct 15, 2013
Get out while you can!
Pikeville Commons Joke

Pikeville, KY

#6 Oct 17, 2013
Ray Ratliff wrote:
Well if we always say things will never work and dont give them a try they wont work but if we start standing together yes they will work.
Pikeville Commons will save Eastern Ky.
Misery Payne

Clay City, KY

#7 Oct 17, 2013
Pikeville Commons Joke wrote:
<quoted text>Pikeville Commons will save Eastern Ky.
How they gonna do that? Put in a Save a Lot, a Dollar Tree and a Food Stamp Office! How about a Payless Shoes and drag Eric's Statue of Abe Lincoln up there, put in another disability mill. Maybe an unemployment office satellite.

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#8 Oct 17, 2013
You may wanna read / join in our discussion with "Pike County Speaks Out"! We have a lot of folks who have brought many questions that we are gonna demand answers for from our great leaders! Until we can hold them accountable and get the right leaders in office is the ONLY way this county can prosper...so please feel free to join us as we will be getting a meeting together soon so we can stand united as a group and show the county officials we are serious!!! Thanks..
Smores

Fort Worth, TX

#9 Oct 17, 2013
Onama has killed Appalachain America. You that voted for him got what you deserve. In 5 years property values here will be half of what they are now. Thinking of buying a home your stupid.
the truth

Richmond, KY

#10 Oct 17, 2013
Pike county is a shit hole and has always been a shit hole.

People come here and get stuck and never leave because it's a trap. Or they are born here and can't escape.

You can't blame anyone for how this place is.

It is what is because that is what it is.

It's never been a good place for anyone.

That is unless you like being a hillbilly red neck and considered ignorant by the rest of the country and like living in misery.

Coal is dead because coal can't be mined forever. It has a finite point.

We need new forms of energy and we need a better government.

Leave Pike County if you can. I doubt it but I'd like to see people just leave this place like a ghost town.
Reality

Grethel, KY

#11 Oct 17, 2013
Until people take the initiative to improve their way of life, there seems to be little hope. HOWEVER...some of the positive aspects of the people of Eastern Kentucky are an incredible resiliency, a sincere love for family and friends, and incredible sense of faith.
Face of the matter is this:
Far too many people allowed people like Eric Conn to influence them into cashing in their hopes and dreams for a monthly check that is less than sufficient while he pocketed millons...and this became something that was attractive to far too many people. Additionally, the drug problem grew exponentially when all these people who had nothing to do with their spare time were exposed to the deadly disease of addiction and the "numbing effects" that seemed to take away the pain. Even today, a majority of folks are taking pain killers and nerve medications that they do not need and are making their situations worse. Sadly, most remain in denial of even having a problem. Our government recognized that way too many people were using the coal mining industry as a way of out through compensation claims and disability and began to vanquish the possibilities of it ever being a productive way of life for the people to live here.
Until the people of Eastern Kentucky recognize these problems...decide to get back to work, educate their children, discontinue the use of medications that are only making matters worse for them and their loved ones...it would seem there is little hope. However...when it comes to love and faith and resiliency...those are some awesome building blocks for a strong foundation to build upon. Just hope everyone wakes up out of this stupor and see the light!
Reality

Grethel, KY

#12 Oct 17, 2013
Smores wrote:
Onama has killed Appalachain America. You that voted for him got what you deserve. In 5 years property values here will be half of what they are now. Thinking of buying a home your stupid.
Not really...we ain't dead. Most of what is going on was taking shape years ago...it's not Obama. The people here allowed it to happen to themselves. Personal responsibility and accountability are the problems...and please...don't use your political aspirations and agenda to promote hate/anger and finger pointing. That's part of the problem in Washington. If you're a true Christian, you should know that promoting hatred to your fellow man isn't the right way! Please...help the people here by motivating them in a positive manner...it's the only thing that works in the long run. Thanks.
Reality

Grethel, KY

#13 Oct 17, 2013
Never Happen wrote:
Boys and girls you are about 50 years to late, Federal government is broke, State is broke or will be when they lose their share of coal severance that goes into the general fund. dounty is broke and we are getting less coal severance, will be cut to nothing over time.
The coal severance was set up to do what you are asking for, non-coal jobs, diversify for a time such as this when the coal industry is going away.
Good luck but it ain't going to happen, we are going back to an impoverished, backwater rural area with nothing but poverty and misery and no hope. You can thank the Judge Exec and fiscal courts over the last 50 years for the mess we are in today. Wasted the coal severance for over 30 years and none of them ever tried to get non coal industry in here.
It's never too late to rewrite your story! Hide and watch!
cooter

UK

#14 Oct 18, 2013
Plain and simple ..people dont want to work, people are lazy
Margie

Williamson, WV

#15 Oct 18, 2013
cooter wrote:
Plain and simple ..people dont want to work, people are lazy
Its easier sitting on your bum and receiving government assistance.I know there are a lot of people who deserve it,but you have a lot of freeloaders abusing the system.(AKA)Fox News Is A Joke is a prime example!
Incompetent Fiscal Court

Clay City, KY

#16 Oct 18, 2013
Reality wrote:
Until people take the initiative to improve their way of life, there seems to be little hope. HOWEVER...some of the positive aspects of the people of Eastern Kentucky are an incredible resiliency, a sincere love for family and friends, and incredible sense of faith.
Face of the matter is this:
Far too many people allowed people like Eric Conn to influence them into cashing in their hopes and dreams for a monthly check that is less than sufficient while he pocketed millons...and this became something that was attractive to far too many people. Additionally, the drug problem grew exponentially when all these people who had nothing to do with their spare time were exposed to the deadly disease of addiction and the "numbing effects" that seemed to take away the pain. Even today, a majority of folks are taking pain killers and nerve medications that they do not need and are making their situations worse. Sadly, most remain in denial of even having a problem. Our government recognized that way too many people were using the coal mining industry as a way of out through compensation claims and disability and began to vanquish the possibilities of it ever being a productive way of life for the people to live here.
Until the people of Eastern Kentucky recognize these problems...decide to get back to work, educate their children, discontinue the use of medications that are only making matters worse for them and their loved ones...it would seem there is little hope. However...when it comes to love and faith and resiliency...those are some awesome building blocks for a strong foundation to build upon. Just hope everyone wakes up out of this stupor and see the light!
Bullshit, people can only improve their life when society allows them an avenue to do so. When you have industry and diversity in the economy you have a strong working and middle class. Nobody chooses to live on from $600 to 1000 a month when they can live like human beings. You can't have any kind of a real life on welfare. The county gamily and clique lead county government kept industry out of here early on to keep a steady cheap work force for the mines. Then this all blew up on them when the mines become mechanized and the coal corporations did not need as many men to mine the coal. Now that coal is dying we are in real trouble because we failed to diversify, when you put all your eggs in one basket as Detroit and Pike County did you will be a dead city or county.
All the present organizations know how to do is raise taxes on property owners to support their present waste and mismanagement. They, even as we are losing a whole industry, the only industry in the county are doing nothing. The city is working to bring people into Pikeville to spend money on the weekends to help support local business, Main Street Live, Muscle on Main, and other entertainment venue's. What is the county doing? Wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars over 8 years on an ATV Trail System while the one in Mingo County brings hundreds of thousands of dollars into their local economy. We need to switch governments, trade the fiscal court to Pikeville City and let the city government take over the county. At least they are thinking and trying to do something.
Reality

Grethel, KY

#18 Oct 18, 2013
Incompetent Fiscal Court wrote:
<quoted text>
Bullshit, people can only improve their life when society allows them an avenue to do so. When you have industry and diversity in the economy you have a strong working and middle class. Nobody chooses to live on from $600 to 1000 a month when they can live like human beings. You can't have any kind of a real life on welfare. The county gamily and clique lead county government kept industry out of here early on to keep a steady cheap work force for the mines. Then this all blew up on them when the mines become mechanized and the coal corporations did not need as many men to mine the coal. Now that coal is dying we are in real trouble because we failed to diversify, when you put all your eggs in one basket as Detroit and Pike County did you will be a dead city or county.
All the present organizations know how to do is raise taxes on property owners to support their present waste and mismanagement. They, even as we are losing a whole industry, the only industry in the county are doing nothing. The city is working to bring people into Pikeville to spend money on the weekends to help support local business, Main Street Live, Muscle on Main, and other entertainment venue's. What is the county doing? Wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars over 8 years on an ATV Trail System while the one in Mingo County brings hundreds of thousands of dollars into their local economy. We need to switch governments, trade the fiscal court to Pikeville City and let the city government take over the county. At least they are thinking and trying to do something.
What? An ATV trail? You better get some initiative put into the minds and hearts of the people who live here! That's the problem...the tools for providing the people with a higher standard of living are there! I see people who have no desire to work and WANT welfare...each and every day! This isn't a fiscal court or some stupid organizational problem...it's a people problem. LAZY...A SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT! You're absolutely clueless!
Dumb Just Plain Dumb

Clay City, KY

#19 Oct 18, 2013
Reality wrote:
<quoted text> What? An ATV trail? You better get some initiative put into the minds and hearts of the people who live here! That's the problem...the tools for providing the people with a higher standard of living are there! I see people who have no desire to work and WANT welfare...each and every day! This isn't a fiscal court or some stupid organizational problem...it's a people problem. LAZY...A SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT! You're absolutely clueless!
What color is the sky in the world you live in. The people that want to work can't find a job, especially a living wage job. If 10% of the people on welfare wanted a job right now where would they find it in Pike County.
If you put 80% of them off welfare most business in Pike County would go under, you don't see people that own a business cry about the welfare money, it is more than half their monthly intake.
If you offered living wage jobs with benefits 50% would come off welfare if offered that kind of job with benefits. Except maybe the legit disability cases.
It is a society problem, a corporate lobby problem that owns state and federal government. ATV was just one non coal recreation venue that brings money to local business and would enable them to hire a few people. Mingo County and Williamson don't scoff at it, the hotels and restaurants have had to hire extra help to serve that trail system over there. It brings hundreds of thousands of dollars into Mingo County, you are to stupid to understand the kind of activities Pigeon Forge make their living on.
Kylie

Eubank, KY

#20 Oct 19, 2013
Pikeville Commons Joke wrote:
<quoted text>Pikeville Commons will save Eastern Ky.
Thanks for the laugh.
Historian

Paducah, KY

#21 Oct 19, 2013
If you want to see the future of eastern Kentucky, look at the history of western Kansas. For example, Cheyenne County:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheyenne_County,...

The population peaked at 6,948 people in 1930. The county now has 2,726 people.

Most eastern Kentucky counties will probably go the same demographic route - and the amount of coal mined will have very little to do with it. Cheyenne County had nothing except agriculture. No industry. It still has an immense amount of agriculture. Today it grows far more grain than it did at its peak population times. But a lot fewer farmers do the work. Coal mining has gone the same route - a lot less miners dig a vastly larger tonnage of coal than in the past.

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