How Long Before NSA Leaker Edward Sno...

How Long Before NSA Leaker Edward Snowden Suffers Drone Attack Or Abduction?

Created by PAT RlOT on Jun 12, 2013

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obama hater

Wichita, KS

#1 Jun 13, 2013
he'll just disappear like the Benghazi video maker..he's still in jail I think....

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#2 Jun 13, 2013
If Snowden continues to leak US secrets to China, then he should be abducted. As it stands, unless he can provide China something good, he'll be extradited back to the US, all legal like before anything else can happen.

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#4 Jun 13, 2013
GOP wrote:
Snowden is a hero. The poor guy NObama set up to take the fall over Benghazi was just...A scapegoat.
Not one person was even concerned about the "Video" of all the people questioned in Benghazi. It's a good lesson on NObama's anti-Americanism.
Now Nobama's going to send Al Qaeda tens of thousands of high tech weapons in Syria just like he did in Egypt with the muslim brotherhood.
Snowden is leaking US intelligence secrets to China, in no way is he a hero, frankly he's borderline treasonous.

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#6 Jun 13, 2013
GOP wrote:
<quoted text>Your opinion on yet another subject is predictable.
I don't think the Chinese care at all about our own government spying on us on this side of the Pacific. Why would they?
If NObama is doing it it's fine with you, whatever it is or how intrusive.
No one is saying China cares about us, spying on us numb nuts. Is the extent of your knowledge of this specific case? You should really pull your head out of your ass more often. Maybe then you would see where Snowden is informing the Chinese government, of our intelligence activities, such as the NSA has been hacking the Chinese government for years. As I said, leaking information about our government, to us the American public is one thing. Divulging our intelligence secrets and tactics to foreign governments is treason. Also it's amusing to see you make yet one more ignorant assumption about me. Not once have I said I support the NSA's actions. I was against the Patriot Act when Bush signed it, and I'm against it today. But it's nice to see an obvious right winger like you, who I would bet money supported this Act after 9/11 switching your stance now, because its a Democrat running the show.

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#9 Jun 13, 2013
GOP wrote:
<quoted text>So now I'm "numb nuts"?
Tell us why the present administration feels a need to spy on us citizens by the millions. Tell us why they feel a need to pry into our credit card activity. Tell us why it should have been allowed to continue.
Why did the previous admin feel the need? This didn't begin with Obama. Ask Congress, both sides, why it's been allowed to continue. Ask them why it was allowed in the first place. Though to be honest, what the NSA is doing now, isn't as bad as what they were doing before. As of right now, as far as phones go, they are only collecting what numbers are calling what numbers, duration of said call, and dates when the call was made. They claim they're not even collecting names. I dunno. But what we do know, was that under Bush, they were activity wiretapping, and listening to our conversations. This happened for a long time under Bush. And according to the former head of the Bush Admins NSA, the Obama admin, is handling it better, with more oversight, and more transparency than they ever did under Bush. Does that make it right? No. But these are the facts, as we know them.

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#10 Jun 13, 2013
GOP wrote:
Someone said murdering American citizens with drones was legal because "the president said so".
That's the way of treasonous thinking/acting liberals. "Treason is what NObama is doing to all of the American people.
If China gleans a little info while that's the only way we can stop Nobama...then tell the Chinese more and more.
And there you go slipping off in to your little world of ignorance again.

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#12 Jun 13, 2013
GOP wrote:
More and more and more and more and more and more and more a bunch of YO Bomma ass kissers maddeningly blame President George W. Bush for the Son of a b*tch destroying this country now. It's a good time in America to be a black man and wanting to destroy the country from within.
YO Bomma worshippers are surely the most stupid retards to ever exist at one time.
You honestly can't seem to grasp anything you read can you? You honestly can't see past your own ignorant bias, to see what is actually written can you? Where did I blame Bush for what Obama is doing? I factually stated that this began with Bush. Did it not? Are you denying that fact? Can you for once have an honest discussion? How am I worshipping Obama? I said I disagree with what the NSA is doing. Honestly this is why it's worthless to talk to you. You apparently are incapable of operating in the world like a fully functioning adult.
Historian

Cadiz, KY

#13 Jun 14, 2013
Anyone who thinks the U.S. should or would launch a drone or cruise missile strike against a target in China (or Russia) is insane. That would start World War III.

It would also be a bad move to pressure China into returning Snowden to the U.S.A. At some point in the future they would demand that we hand over some high level Chinese dissident who sought refuge in the U.S.A., one that we considered a hero.

As for Snowden's revealing the fact that the U.S. government is spying on all of us, he did the American people and the cause of individual freedom a tremendous service.

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#14 Jun 14, 2013
Historian wrote:
Anyone who thinks the U.S. should or would launch a drone or cruise missile strike against a target in China (or Russia) is insane. That would start World War III.
It would also be a bad move to pressure China into returning Snowden to the U.S.A. At some point in the future they would demand that we hand over some high level Chinese dissident who sought refuge in the U.S.A., one that we considered a hero.
As for Snowden's revealing the fact that the U.S. government is spying on all of us, he did the American people and the cause of individual freedom a tremendous service.
We don't have to pressure China, we have a long history extradition with them. As was stated in one of the many articles about this, Snowden could not have picked a worse country to run to, to seek refuge.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#15 Jun 14, 2013
A very wise man told us once, what you do in moderation, your children will do in excess. Taking that from the personal aspect into the more generalized aspect, what one generation does in moderation, the next generation will do in excess. even though all this listening, eavesdropping and contingencies originated in previous presidencies, most will have to admit this presidency has carried eavesdropping to new heights, same with the debt. All this spying on subjects didn't originate with Bush even Shrub carried to higher heights than the previous presidencies. Spying began when man began but the spying technology Obama has, even surpasses what Shrub had. Reason is the speed technology is moving at. Look at how outdated the very computer I am computing on is. Look what one can do with a phone today compared to a year ago. The problem comes in with the advancing of the spying keeping up with the advancement with the technology. Just because the technology is there to spy on everybody doesn't mean it should be used. In the final result what is the difference in spying on people through telecommunications than the Torquemada government people looking for the smokeless chimneys on Sabbath in Christian Spain to condemn, torment, torture and kill Jews. No difference in 16th century Spain and the methods of 21st century America. What is the difference between 1930s Nazi Germany having their spies walking about the towns and cities than 21st century America? the difference is scope, magnitude and efficiency. Hitler and Stalin would have killed, well, actually they did, but the little corporal and the Georgian would have killed more for the technology of 21st century America. Technology may have made it easier for the farmer and housewife but it sure has brought a lot of spying to all of us. Auf Weidersehn!

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#18 Jun 15, 2013
"One man's treason is another man's triumph." Who said that you ask? I did, just now. I will be honest, I am still somewhat on the fence about Snowden and am not willing to claim he is this or that yet at this time but I will say this: Snowden did do us all a great favor by revealing the extent of the abuses of power taking place currently in the U.S. Government. The Obaminions will do their usual mindless deflection tactic of Blame Bush but anyone with logical common sense easily sees that The Obama Administration is flat out light years beyond anything Bush carried out under The Patriot Act. Firstly, why won't any of the ObZombies address the fact that Obama The Candidate campaigned on PROMISES of NOT supporting the "broad" sweep of the Pat Act being used against Americans? Now we learn that not only is his Administration utilizing it's capabilities but that they are waaayyyyy beyond it's intended parameters and are using it as if the American Public were already criminals. Sorry but there are so many holes in NObama's excuses that none of his BS can hold water..what does the average American's credit card transactions have to do with fighting "terrorism"?(mind you though that NObama himself declared the "war on terror" to be basically over just 2 weeks ago) or what does our internet queries have to do with combating terrorism? And if this NSA sweeping/mining was so reliable then how come Tsarnev got away with the Boston Bombing despite prior "heads up" from Russian Intelligence? None of this Administration's reasoning actually contains any REASONING if you dissect it at face value.

As for U.S./China "relations": Come on people, it's 2013 and everyone should know or at least suspect that modern warfare and espionage takes place right here where we are = The Internet. We've been well aware of China's hacking our stuff for a few years now and surely no one here is so naive to think that we do not do the same thing to them and many others. The problem is that much of this technology meant to be implemented and used against foreign agencies, enemies, etc. has fallen into a dishonorable regime's hands and they are using it against Americans and doing so unjustly and criminally so as they seek to eradicate the protections of The U.S. Constitution and that is the main goal: Destroy that "sacred" document. The Obaminions Will never admit such but it's a well known factor that NObama is a Globalist who is all in favor of the One World Government. To achieve such a grandiose dream and make it manifest then The Constitution MUST be destroyed for in a Global Dominion it has no place or validity for there will be NO Nations, NO Sovereign lands or realms..only a "unified" world all working hand in hand as one. One Mind, One Accord, One Government, ONE LEADER....and ONE HELL ON EARTH.

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#19 Jun 17, 2013
I don't think anything extremely drastic will happen to Snowden anytime soon..not like his murder or disappearance, not yet anyway. It is too soon, too close to his expose of the NSA's criminal activities against Americans and to kill Snowden now would only make a martyr of him. That does not mean that the U.S. Government won't indict him though or issue a warrant for his arrest as I'm sure U.S. Officials are already in talks with China to get him in custody and extradited to the United States as soon as they possibly can...IF they can that is. China may do all they can to protect and shelter Snowden because if he is legit then he can provide them a literal treasure
trove of information, techniques, etc.

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#20 Jun 24, 2013
I think the jury shall remain "Out" for awhile concerning how history will see Edward Snowden's actions in the long run. I think it was an early rush to judgement in saying he is a hero, especially seeing now where he has been since his expose of the NSA's criminal activities: China, Russia.. plans to go to Cuba and eventually seek asylum in Ecuador? Several nations that epitomize everything that America supposedly does not stand for, nations that do their best to suppress Liberty and Freedoms for their citizenry. For me personally there is a lot about Snowden that just is not adding up for example, how did a High School drop out get so far ahead in the National Security structure?

Plus, I think Snowden knows more than he has revealed too and that the American justice system does NOT really want to capture him. Why is that you ask? Think about it...if we wanted other countries to help and cooperate in arresting Snowden and sending him back here then why did the U.S. charge him with Espionage? Espionage is a crime punishable by death via execution, something more foreign nations are against and therefore are usually reluctant to help us take someone into custody for extradition here. Instead the U.S. could have charged him with one of several available Theft options like Theft By Unlawful Taking for instance, charges that most countries would agree with and help to enforce by helping in his arrest and extradition. Instead, the Espionage charge is something most other countries will not agree with nor help enforce. I think this was a purposeful, intended move on the part of the U.S. to make it seem as if yes, we do want Snowden's arrest and prosecution yet behind the scenes they actually do not. I wonder why?
Traveler

Paducah, KY

#21 Jun 24, 2013
PAT RlOT wrote:
I think the jury shall remain "Out" for awhile concerning how history will see Edward Snowden's actions in the long run. I think it was an early rush to judgement in saying he is a hero, especially seeing now where he has been since his expose of the NSA's criminal activities: China, Russia.. plans to go to Cuba and eventually seek asylum in Ecuador? Several nations that epitomize everything that America supposedly does not stand for, nations that do their best to suppress Liberty and Freedoms for their citizenry. For me personally there is a lot about Snowden that just is not adding up for example, how did a High School drop out get so far ahead in the National Security structure?
Snowden's choice of Hong Kong is understandable. It is a semi-autonomous part of China. The Chinese have veto power over extradition from it, so not only Hong Kong but China had to approve before he could be extradited to the US. Traveling by way of Russia is also understandable. An Aeroflot flight from Hong Kong to Russia is the only way that he could go anywhere, even to Iceland, which he said was his first choice as place of asylum, without the plane landing in a country that would take him off it and send him to the US. Aeroflot flights also go non-stop to Cuba. Cuban planes go non-stop to Venezuela, which is not likely to send him to the US. Venezuela's national airline flies non-stop to Ecuador.

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#22 Jun 24, 2013
Traveler wrote:
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Snowden's choice of Hong Kong is understandable. It is a semi-autonomous part of China. The Chinese have veto power over extradition from it, so not only Hong Kong but China had to approve before he could be extradited to the US. Traveling by way of Russia is also understandable. An Aeroflot flight from Hong Kong to Russia is the only way that he could go anywhere, even to Iceland, which he said was his first choice as place of asylum, without the plane landing in a country that would take him off it and send him to the US. Aeroflot flights also go non-stop to Cuba. Cuban planes go non-stop to Venezuela, which is not likely to send him to the US. Venezuela's national airline flies non-stop to Ecuador.
Hello Trav, it is I, The Legend Himself but I imagine you already knew that. Where have you been lately, man? I've missed your insightful, intelligent take on these things along with my own and our Patriotic Brothers Dunadd, GOP, KYboy, Big Cat, Paul Revere, etc. known as collectively as The A.C.E.s (American Constitutionalist Enforcers). So it is good
to see you.

I guess you saw where Hong Kong(?) blamed "paperwork" on their allowing Snowden to jump, huh?
Traveler

Paducah, KY

#23 Jun 24, 2013
PAT RlOT wrote:
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Hello Trav, it is I, The Legend Himself but I imagine you already knew that. Where have you been lately, man?
Off in parts mysterious looking for a job. Things are tough everywhere, even for somebody with a good education and 30 years of experience - which brings me to your question about how Snowden, a 20-something year-old high school dropout got an SCI "Secure Compartmented Information" security clearance and a $122,000 a year job that seemingly gave him free access to the NSA's computers. As Patrick Henry said, "I smell a rat" and it ain't named Edward Snowden. I'm betting there's a lot of PYOA going on at NSA, Booz Allen Hamilton, and God know where else right now.

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#24 Jun 25, 2013
Traveler wrote:
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Off in parts mysterious looking for a job. Things are tough everywhere, even for somebody with a good education and 30 years of experience - which brings me to your question about how Snowden, a 20-something year-old high school dropout got an SCI "Secure Compartmented Information" security clearance and a $122,000 a year job that seemingly gave him free access to the NSA's computers. As Patrick Henry said, "I smell a rat" and it ain't named Edward Snowden. I'm betting there's a lot of PYOA going on at NSA, Booz Allen Hamilton, and God know where else right now.
Yeah, there's a lot to Snowden that isn't adding up. Now he's claiming that he specifically sought a job with the NSA to find and expose corrupt practices to begin with. I'm really beginning to think he was a mole planted by some Anti- American nation like China or Russia, who knows? Perhaps he had fraudulent paperwork or something that got passed hiring checks. The fact the U.S. charged him with Espionage instead of Theft knowing that most foreign countries will not extradite someone facing the Death Penalty makes me think America really does not want him caught. Has anyone even thought that he may be a reverse agent that is now feeding bogus BS (info, intel) to China, Russia, etc.?
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#25 Jun 25, 2013
Here's what I think about this Snowden deal. What the Obama Administration along with their European Socialist backers want the most is to negate the American Constitution by, at the same time, declaring martial law. I think this whole thing is a setup to further infuriate and enflame the American people to take action against DC. There is talk going around about getting a 3-4 million people march into DC and all it would take is a dozen or so government plants to start trouble, causing the law enforcement and military to come in. That is the total dream of the leftists. Declaring martial law thereby negating the Constitution, rendering it useless. The American left is no different than the German, Russian and other leftists of the 1920s and 30s, they work the same. Leftism has never taken over any country without fighting, case in point in the American psyche, Viet Nam. The main reason for all the surveillance is incitement.

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#26 Jun 25, 2013
dunadd wrote:
Here's what I think about this Snowden deal. What the Obama Administration along with their European Socialist backers want the most is to negate the American Constitution by, at the same time, declaring martial law. I think this whole thing is a setup to further infuriate and enflame the American people to take action against DC. There is talk going around about getting a 3-4 million people march into DC and all it would take is a dozen or so government plants to start trouble, causing the law enforcement and military to come in. That is the total dream of the leftists. Declaring martial law thereby negating the Constitution, rendering it useless. The American left is no different than the German, Russian and other leftists of the 1920s and 30s, they work the same. Leftism has never taken over any country without fighting, case in point in the American psyche, Viet Nam. The main reason for all the surveillance is incitement.
Greetings, Brother Dun. I can see a lot of merit and validity in your statement. I too have long believed that Martial Law is the desired result of much that is going on. It's almost as if The Obama Administration is testing how much they can get away with as every day a new scandal of possible disastrous implications arises, each one more serious than the last in hopes people WILL revolt, riot, rebel, rampage, whatever. If that were to happen then of course The Constitution could be suspended and Martial Law implemented but to belie the obvious: I don't think the American Sheeple have the spines, balls, or guts to Fight the Fascist Future quickly accelerating down upon them. The complacent herd of cattle called Americans are in danger of losing all yet they continue to graze oblivious to the gun being placed to the back of their heads.

The whole Snowden drama is emboldening major antagonists against us as well as China and Russia are both thumbing their noses at us basically and slapping us around with obvious bullsh!t antics
and subterfuge. I'm beginning to think Snowden is a double agent more and more myself.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#27 Jun 25, 2013
Hey, Brother PAT RIOT. I certainly agree Snowden is at least a double agent plus I wouldn't be surprised if DC, Beijing, Moscow and others are working in unison to further their plan. There's not a doubt in my mind the power source behind the Obama presidency is the European Socialists and the IMF. Moscow, Strasbourg, Beijing and DC are not as big of enemies as it is shown to the world.

That last sentence of the first paragraph of yours bears repeating. The complacent herd of cattle called Americans are in danger of losing all yet they continue to graze oblivious to the gun being placed to the back of their heads. And I indeed don't think the American Sheeple have the spines, balls or guts to fight the Fascist Future quickly accelerating dwon upon them. I realize I am using your sentences but truthers don't mind using each others sentences as the truth is the truth no matter who says it.

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