What Should Be Done About Gun Violence?

What Should Be Done About Gun Violence?

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Since: Sep 09

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#1 Jan 16, 2013
What can be done to reduce gun violence? All I have heard from the Conservatives and gun-nuts is 'oppose gun laws'. Plus, their cry of 'buy more guns'.

But other than those two things they have said 'nothing'.

Even though the Republicans in Washington diss President Obama for his proposals pertaining to reducing violence the Republicans have offered what? Nothing. Nothing at all.

This is a first-world high-tech nation with a vast resource for handling problems. But yet our streets are dangerous. It shouldn't be like this.

I'm waiting for your (the gun -nuts) ideas on reducing gun violence. I wonder if any will address this in any way other than repeating the two things in my first paragraph over and over?

Enough small things pertaining to different elements of gun violence can cut away at things like peeling an onion.

For example. How many people are shot due to drinking? People drinking are more apt to become angry and when armed more easily use that gun when they normally would handle it differently. Also, studies and interviews of people in prisons have shown a vast number committed their crimes while drinking or doing drugs. Heck, as a side issue ..... how many gun 'accidents' happen while drinking?

Make it a crime (subject to a citation or arrest) to drink while in possession of a gun. I don't mean be drunk, but drink. It is illegal to drive a car with an open container of alcohol in the vehicle ..... why not for carrying a gun and drinking?

I have other views, some small, some on a larger scale, but I'll wait on posting them until I see what others put.

Rather than only posting on threads how you oppose the Liberals' proposed changes and laws ..... here is your chance to post what you think should be done to reduce violence in America.

If you have no input as to how to reduce it then expect us to pass laws that you may not like. Because the rate of violence is too great in America for it to be permitted to continue. People have become fed up with it.
KELLERMAN

Marengo, OH

#2 Jan 16, 2013
All guns should be removed from society. this country is the most violent society when it comes to guns. I see know reason for the Americans to continue this lunacy. If nothing comes out of the gun legislation than perhaps the heavy artillery can be removed from society or least limit the rounds that can be sold. it would be the best for our society to remove all guns, but I don't see this happen due to the mind set of the American people.
old dude

Pikeville, KY

#3 Jan 16, 2013
Since you asked I will give you my 2 cents: Put crazy people away. How do you determine if a person is crazy? Common sense: If any person at large in society whether it be school,workplace or just in your neighborhood is an OBVIOUS NUT or shows repeated CRAZY actions everyone around them should report them to the authorities who should FORCE that person to be evaluated by mental health authorities. SCHIZO'S can NOT be cured. Gang bangers should be locked up for life if they use a gun in a crime as should anyone else. Drug addicts should be imprisoned until no longer an addict;maybe not in a general prison but in a drug treatment institution locked away from the general public. Quit trying to assimilate the crazies into mainstream society,it has not worked since the closing of mental institutions. Start by FORCING the police to overwhelm known gang controlled areas of our cities. Hire as many as needed to bust up these areas. That would be a start. Now flame away at me for stepping on people's civil rights but criminals and the criminally insane SHOULD have MINIMAL civil rights.

Since: Sep 09

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#4 Jan 16, 2013
old dude wrote:
Since you asked I will give you my 2 cents: Put crazy people away. How do you determine if a person is crazy? Common sense: If any person at large in society whether it be school,workplace or just in your neighborhood is an OBVIOUS NUT or shows repeated CRAZY actions everyone around them should report them to the authorities who should FORCE that person to be evaluated by mental health authorities. SCHIZO'S can NOT be cured. Gang bangers should be locked up for life if they use a gun in a crime as should anyone else. Drug addicts should be imprisoned until no longer an addict;maybe not in a general prison but in a drug treatment institution locked away from the general public. Quit trying to assimilate the crazies into mainstream society,it has not worked since the closing of mental institutions. Start by FORCING the police to overwhelm known gang controlled areas of our cities. Hire as many as needed to bust up these areas. That would be a start. Now flame away at me for stepping on people's civil rights but criminals and the criminally insane SHOULD have MINIMAL civil rights.
I'm not going to diss you. There are parts of it I agree with.

Since: Sep 09

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#5 Jan 16, 2013
Here is some related information ..... according to the Center for Disease Control, deaths from firearms may outnumber car fatalities by 2015. Better laws (required seat-belts, harsher penalties for drunk driving, intersection cameras, etc) and enforcement concerning driving cars is reducing the number of auto-related deaths. But no action is taking place to reduce gun deaths.

Another thing related to this. The little twelve year old girl shot in the parking lot in Hazard last Tuesday died today. It's sad.
GodLovesYou

Mesquite, NV

#7 Jan 17, 2013
I'm for tighter gun controls, especially in pike county. There are just too many guns in pike county, in the hands of criminals and desperate people and people unfit to have firearms.

This is why KY and Pike county need to work together to take guns off the streets.

You people are still shooting each other up like it's the hatfield and mccoy days.

And now it's over meth and your painkillers.
haha

Macon, GA

#9 Jan 17, 2013
___Jenny___ wrote:
Here is some related information ..... according to the Center for Disease Control, deaths from firearms may outnumber car fatalities by 2015. Better laws (required seat-belts, harsher penalties for drunk driving, intersection cameras, etc) and enforcement concerning driving cars is reducing the number of auto-related deaths. But no action is taking place to reduce gun deaths.

Another thing related to this. The little twelve year old girl shot in the parking lot in Hazard last Tuesday died today. It's sad.
No laws that can be passed regarding guns is going to take guns out of criminals' hands. Do you think they are gonna walk to the police station and say, "here's my gun I'm a criminal I'm not supposed to have this." Not in this world! You tell me a gun law that will take guns out of criminals hands and ill tell you about some oceanfront property in Oklahoma I'd like to sell you.
Alley Oops

Elkhorn City, KY

#10 Jan 17, 2013
Deception !.. people slow down ,stop listen whats going round .
haha

Macon, GA

#11 Jan 17, 2013
crazy indian wrote:
<quoted text>RATHER FUNNY: dont you think: that we have these Great Mind's, that Can and do pass Stupid Law's, to Stop us along the Road: to SEE: IF" we have a Damn Stupid SEAT BELT ON, And take us to Jail or Fine Us; BUT" Can Not Stop US to Check For Gun's. This thing called the Constitution Need's to Be Voided: such as it is in today's World. OR: it needs to Be Reformed: and Re-Written too Address our Need's of Today. IN It's Day it served a great Purpose: in our world today, IT" does not fit our Need's.
Why don't you go move to North Korea. It is people like you that make this country look terrible. You are a disgrace to any American that has ever lived. Our country was founded on the Constitution. It will NEVER be taken away or just be used as a museum piece as long as us Americans are around. It held true as a way to govern these United Stated then, and it hold true today. You don't like it? There's plenty of other countries that you can move to.
think

Langley, KY

#12 Jan 17, 2013
crazy indian wrote:
Ban: all right's to Own Gun's and the Right to Vote" To Anyone: Under the Age of 40. IF" Anyone under 40 is caught with a Gun: Give them their choice, Be deported or Hanged. Let them Chose: Where their ass want's to be dropped out the ass end of a Plane.
Then; require all Citizen's 40 and over, to pass a Mental EXAM, to qualify" to own a GUN or Vote. DO: as Negro REV; James Manning, SAY"S: Remove" ANNIHILATE" or KILL, All NEGRO's.
IF" as He Say's: YOU WHITE PEOPLE, Want to Save Your selves: And This COUNTRY. WHITE MAN" This is What YOU; Have Allowed This Country, TO COME TO BE.
You think our warriors fighting for our freedom can not have a gun in the country they are fighting for? What happens when our troops get back from a deployment? Do they take their weapons out in international waters and put them up for only the people over 40 to carry from either the ship or plane to the armory? You keep talking about the Rev. James Manning, until you practice what you preach, why don't you shut up about him. Do you have a man crush or something? Until you start doing what your hero says, why don't you stop talking about it, If you really believe in him, do as he says. I take it you are a pussy just like him, all talk about what should be done but you wont do a thing about it. You are hoping others will do your dirty work.
old dude

Ransom, KY

#13 Jan 17, 2013
It is a known fact that most of the gun murders happening today are criminals killing each other;mostly blacks killing blacks in big cities. It's also a known fact that the same people involved in criminal activity continue to be involved in such activity when they are not locked up. Some people will ALWAYS be criminals although when they get old enough like in their senior years many do slow down and don't cause as much trouble. Drug trafficking is a major source of gun related deaths. Personally I think any and all drugs should be made available free of charge to those who want them .Pile them high on every street corner in America and holler "gray mare". Problem solved;wouldn't take long until every addict overdosed to death.
Spectator

Lexington, KY

#17 Jan 17, 2013
does the constitution give you the right to own a tank or nuclear weapons. whats the differnce with a gun that shoots 100 rounds in a minuite?
JOE NOBODY

Bloomington, IN

#18 Jan 17, 2013
Crazy Indian, what you smokin' in pipe?
haha

Pikeville, KY

#19 Jan 17, 2013
Spectator wrote:
does the constitution give you the right to own a tank or nuclear weapons. whats the differnce with a gun that shoots 100 rounds in a minuite?
Do as your username insinuates and just spectate this thread because, as your post shows, you don't have the knowledge or intelligence to pose a valid argument.
Marion

Pikeville, KY

#20 Jan 17, 2013
Stop passing out pills like they are some sort of candy. Around here, most of these people take a pill for farting. Get to the toot of the problems and try working on them instead of pushing pills. Get some of these Xanax's off the street. Those alone make people crazy. These people on the pills need to be re-evaluated by someone they can't fool. These Psychiatrists get fooled day in, day out by people. Can they not see through the facade? Start there, not by banning firearms. Put a ban on the pills.

Since: Sep 09

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#21 Jan 17, 2013
haha wrote:
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No laws that can be passed regarding guns is going to take guns out of criminals' hands. Do you think they are gonna walk to the police station and say, "here's my gun I'm a criminal I'm not supposed to have this." Not in this world! You tell me a gun law that will take guns out of criminals hands and ill tell you about some oceanfront property in Oklahoma I'd like to sell you.
So your answer is do nothing, allow violence to continue as it is?

With better laws and enforcement traffic deaths have fallen and are projected to continue falling. The same can be done with guns.
haha

Tucker, GA

#23 Jan 17, 2013
___Jenny___ wrote:
<quoted text>So your answer is do nothing, allow violence to continue as it is?

With better laws and enforcement traffic deaths have fallen and are projected to continue falling. The same can be done with guns.
You give me a gun law, ill tell you how it's useless and won't work. What's your proposal?

Since: Sep 09

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#24 Jan 17, 2013
haha wrote:
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You give me a gun law, ill tell you how it's useless and won't work. What's your proposal?
That's what I thought. Most of you who scream about Liberals being proactive about violence have no answer of your own. So don't complain that our proposals 'are' going into law. It's because they are the 'only' proposals.
haha

Macon, GA

#25 Jan 17, 2013
___Jenny___ wrote:
<quoted text>That's what I thought. Most of you who scream about Liberals being proactive about violence have no answer of your own. So don't complain that our proposals 'are' going into law. It's because they are the 'only' proposals.
It's because us conservatives don't waste our time coming up with so called "feel good laws and legislation". That is all gun laws are. You know as well as I do that no law that you can enact is going to turn a criminal with guns into a law abiding citizen. They are not gonna give up their guns because a law says so. They are CRIMINALS. Get your head out of the gutter. You still never gave a proposal.
awake

Chesterfield, MO

#27 Jan 17, 2013
United States constitution part of the United States Bill of Rights the 2nd Amendment
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Kentucky Constitution Section 1. part 7
Seventh: The right to bear arms in defense of themselves and of the State, subject to the power of the General Assembly to enact laws to prevent persons from carrying concealed weapons.

No where in either the united states or Kentucky constitution do they have the authority to remove guns from the people they can however enact laws to prevent persons from carrying concealed weapons. No restrictions on open carry what so ever.what part of shall not be infringed do you people not understand.

infringed: to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another.

encroach: to trespass upon the property, domain, or rights of another, especially stealthily or by gradual advances.

Throughout history corrupt governments are responsible for the mass murder of there own people under the deceptive guise of “gun control,” all of which the said dictators implemented.
If you don't know who these people are, you are part of the problem.If you don't know history. history will repeat its self over and over again.
Adolf Hitler Germany 1938-1945
Josef Stalin Soviet Union 1924-1953
Mao Zedong China 1935-1952
Idi Amin Uganda 1971-1979
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