The prison system in the land of th...

The prison system in the land of the free

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Jesus Lover

Logan, WV

#1 Aug 7, 2012
We're in trouble. This system needs an overhaul. How many people are made criminals by comitting victimless crimes. Our prisons and jails are full of people serving time over things like possesion of small amounts of marjuania or other drugs. etc. Many people break the law and don't even realize they are doing so and end up there with a criminal record that follows them for life. I have been thinking about this for some time and when Pat Robinson began a series on this, I really understood the magnitude of the problem. America is suppose to be the land of the free. Prisoners are not free. I don't know the solution, any suggestions??
wtf

Richmond, KY

#2 Aug 7, 2012
Jesus Lover wrote:
We're in trouble. This system needs an overhaul. How many people are made criminals by comitting victimless crimes. Our prisons and jails are full of people serving time over things like possesion of small amounts of marjuania or other drugs. etc. Many people break the law and don't even realize they are doing so and end up there with a criminal record that follows them for life. I have been thinking about this for some time and when Pat Robinson began a series on this, I really understood the magnitude of the problem. America is suppose to be the land of the free. Prisoners are not free. I don't know the solution, any suggestions??
Yes, get a job you freaking deadbeat.
Mel

Frankfort, KY

#3 Aug 7, 2012
Yes, the law seems to be more strict for lesser crimes. It seems people get more tie for illegal drugs than they do for killing someone. I don't condone the use of illegal drugs, but I think the punishment to fit the crime. If you murder someone, then you should be put to death. If you get caught in the possession of illegal drugs, then the puishment should be less severe. Of course, it depends on if you were driving a vehicle while under the influence or if you merely just had it on you at your home or walking down the street. I don't think someone with a little marijuania should serve any jail time or even be fined. As long as the useage of it was not endangering the lives of others then there should be no punishment. Now, I know what many people will say. They will say that I am only saying this just because I use marijuania. Actually, I have never used it nor will I ever. I've not even been drunk. But the present "war on drugs" is not working. Jail time is not the answer. It did not work during prohibition when they tried to ban alcohol. Neither will it work for marijuana. The legal system needs an improvement.
Jesus Lover

Logan, WV

#5 Aug 7, 2012
wtf wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, get a job you freaking deadbeat.
Ive many jobs, I spread Gods word, feed the hungry, minister to the sick, etc. I try to raise moral consciousness and of course thats where I left you behind. What do you do? Oh, let me guess, nothing. There are people in this area who differ from you, in as much that they are socially conscious and intelligent. That must bother you. I have a suggestion, don't read the post and stay wrapped in your current state of mind. God bless you.
Stan and Kyle

United States

#6 Aug 7, 2012
Hey Legend, America has more people in jail that Russia and Chins combined.
Homer

Richmond, KY

#8 Aug 7, 2012
Weed is an intoxicant and a gateway drug. Users and dealers both should be incarcerated. Relaxing the laws on something that is plaguing society is not the answer. Even stiffer penalties would be the best solution. The story was on the Jenkins forum about Fat Back getting busted for drug possession, and how he ratted to stay out of jail. But to holler you are a Jesus lover and want criminal drug offenders to not be punished is pathetic. It's almost as bad as making up some pretend humanitarian jobs he pretends to do. Hard to do much of anything when you are on a gossip forum 24/7. Of course sponging off daddy allows such a bum to sit around and dream up nonsense. From what I've seen most children, and people in general shun filthy long haired vagrants, dressed up like an EMO kid, pretending to be a punk rocker. A grown man acting like a preteen. When a community considers you to be trash it is hard to preach the word to them.

“Hustlin' all day”

Since: May 12

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#9 Aug 7, 2012
Homer wrote:
Weed is an intoxicant and a gateway drug. Users and dealers both should be incarcerated. Relaxing the laws on something that is plaguing society is not the answer. Even stiffer penalties would be the best solution. The story was on the Jenkins forum about Fat Back getting busted for drug possession, and how he ratted to stay out of jail. But to holler you are a Jesus lover and want criminal drug offenders to not be punished is pathetic. It's almost as bad as making up some pretend humanitarian jobs he pretends to do. Hard to do much of anything when you are on a gossip forum 24/7. Of course sponging off daddy allows such a bum to sit around and dream up nonsense. From what I've seen most children, and people in general shun filthy long haired vagrants, dressed up like an EMO kid, pretending to be a punk rocker. A grown man acting like a preteen. When a community considers you to be trash it is hard to preach the word to them.
That is exactly why fatback got ran outta his home town forum. He is trash and I couldn't have said it any better! He is a hypocrite, liar, coward, etc. And he proves that about his self every day!
Jesus Lover

Logan, WV

#10 Aug 8, 2012
Homer wrote:
Weed is an intoxicant and a gateway drug. Users and dealers both should be incarcerated. Relaxing the laws on something that is plaguing society is not the answer. Even stiffer penalties would be the best solution. The story was on the Jenkins forum about Fat Back getting busted for drug possession, and how he ratted to stay out of jail. But to holler you are a Jesus lover and want criminal drug offenders to not be punished is pathetic. It's almost as bad as making up some pretend humanitarian jobs he pretends to do. Hard to do much of anything when you are on a gossip forum 24/7. Of course sponging off daddy allows such a bum to sit around and dream up nonsense. From what I've seen most children, and people in general shun filthy long haired vagrants, dressed up like an EMO kid, pretending to be a punk rocker. A grown man acting like a preteen. When a community considers you to be trash it is hard to preach the word to them.
Homer, who are you talking about? I listed my many jobs and they are not pretend. I do enjoy reading and discussing things on topix, unless they are trash topixs, however, I am not on this forum 24/7.
Right or wrong, I think pot should be legelized. KY is already one of the states which grow large quantities of pot. The talking heads say it is a gateway drug, but I don't believe this. I can tell you from personal experience it is not. In my teen years and early 20s, I smoked pot and I inhaled, as did most during that time. I did not go on to use any other drugs, nor do I drink alcohol or use drugs now. I have a very productive life and obtained my education. I am not saying pot should be legelized for recreational use or driving under its influence. If I am sick,(cancer for an example) or even for the addicts detoxing, people with nervous or aniexty disorders, etc. Pot is a good medicine. There are so many pill heads in KY. Pot could be very beneficial for them instead of heavy duty pharmaceutals. Why make the pharmeceutal companies wealthy at the expense of our people. Pot is less harmful than a ton of zanax or OCs. I also feel KY could benefit financially if growing pot became legel. The so called deadbeats (not my description of people) could become gainfully employeed in an industry they are possibily in anyway. I do not think we are going to stomp out addiction, but could work with the problem in a way thats allows them some comfort as they step back to sobriety.

Although the preceding paragraph is off topix, no way do I believe any person committing a victimless crime should be incarcerated for any period of time. Thats ludicrus. It cost taxpayers money to keep them and does nothing to help them.

God bless you.
here ta go

Pikeville, KY

#11 Aug 8, 2012
Jesus Lover wrote:
<quoted text>
Homer, who are you talking about? I listed my many jobs and they are not pretend. I do enjoy reading and discussing things on topix, unless they are trash topixs, however, I am not on this forum 24/7.
Right or wrong, I think pot should be legelized. KY is already one of the states which grow large quantities of pot. The talking heads say it is a gateway drug, but I don't believe this. I can tell you from personal experience it is not. In my teen years and early 20s, I smoked pot and I inhaled, as did most during that time. I did not go on to use any other drugs, nor do I drink alcohol or use drugs now. I have a very productive life and obtained my education. I am not saying pot should be legelized for recreational use or driving under its influence. If I am sick,(cancer for an example) or even for the addicts detoxing, people with nervous or aniexty disorders, etc. Pot is a good medicine. There are so many pill heads in KY. Pot could be very beneficial for them instead of heavy duty pharmaceutals. Why make the pharmeceutal companies wealthy at the expense of our people. Pot is less harmful than a ton of zanax or OCs. I also feel KY could benefit financially if growing pot became legel. The so called deadbeats (not my description of people) could become gainfully employeed in an industry they are possibily in anyway. I do not think we are going to stomp out addiction, but could work with the problem in a way thats allows them some comfort as they step back to sobriety.
Although the preceding paragraph is off topix, no way do I believe any person committing a victimless crime should be incarcerated for any period of time. Thats ludicrus. It cost taxpayers money to keep them and does nothing to help them.
God bless you.
He was talking about pat whitiker from letcher county, not you, He just was making a reference to his opinion using ole fat pat as an example.
Mel

Georgetown, KY

#12 Aug 8, 2012
I don't believe there is any gateway drug? Pot is always said to be, but I think the only reason it is usually the first drug is because it is one of the cheaper drugs and easier to get. That's all. It doesn't automatically lead to harder drugs. Heck, you could use the same aurgument for alcohol. Most people that do drugs probably drank alcohol first, but do people consider THAT a gateway drug? Peer pressure is a bigger contributor to drug and ALcohol use than anything. How many people tried a drug for the first time by themselves? No, it is usually with others. Just trying to fit in with others.
wtf

Paris, KY

#13 Aug 9, 2012
Mel wrote:
I don't believe there is any gateway drug? Pot is always said to be, but I think the only reason it is usually the first drug is because it is one of the cheaper drugs and easier to get. That's all. It doesn't automatically lead to harder drugs. Heck, you could use the same aurgument for alcohol. Most people that do drugs probably drank alcohol first, but do people consider THAT a gateway drug? Peer pressure is a bigger contributor to drug and ALcohol use than anything. How many people tried a drug for the first time by themselves? No, it is usually with others. Just trying to fit in with others.
"aurgument"

lmfao

You cannot auger it dummy.
lol

Pikeville, KY

#14 Aug 9, 2012
wtf wrote:
<quoted text>"aurgument"
lmfao
You cannot auger it dummy.
hey dummy it's "argument" not aurgument, lmmfao!
Mel

Frankfort, KY

#15 Aug 10, 2012
wtf wrote:
<quoted text>"aurgument"
lmfao
You cannot auger it dummy.
I'm sorry, I don't speak German.
aakers

Pikeville, KY

#16 Aug 10, 2012
The problem with the prison system is that it allows criminal to conjugate, and group together forming plans, and discussing how they got caught. It introduces beginners to real convicts who then influence someone who could be helped into a career criminal. Our system doesn't work. The return rate for an offender is in the ninety percentile range. Instead of allowing people to learn and better themselves, they are faced with fitting in with the people who won't change. If they don't try to fit in then they risk harm and phycological torture from other inmates. As a defense mechanism many join gangs or get into worse trouble trying to protect themselves. Prison doesn't help trust me I've been there
Gall E McOxbig

United States

#17 Aug 11, 2012
I would be popular in Prison.
Homer

Cynthiana, KY

#18 Aug 11, 2012
I don't buy in to this victimless crime bologna. A lot of users get arrested for possession, but in reality a very large percentage of crimes are committed in order to obtain drugs, and yes that includes weed. Crime and drugs go hand in hand. It is all to often a person fails a drug test and is fired from their job. Left with a habit and no income they turn to crime to support that habit. To answer the question of whether weed is harmful all one has to do is look up one of the old heads from school. It is like they are in slow motion. Ask for one of their names and it takes them five minutes to remember what it is and tell you. It is just nonsense to claim marijuana is good when it contains all the same ingredients as cigarettes. Contrary to belief all those chemicals aren't added to cigarettes. They are just a natural part of the tobacco plant, same as weed. The problem is with people, and the thinking that some kind of intoxicant is needed to get through the day.
Know

Logan, WV

#19 Aug 11, 2012
Homer wrote:
I don't buy in to this victimless crime bologna. A lot of users get arrested for possession, but in reality a very large percentage of crimes are committed in order to obtain drugs, and yes that includes weed. Crime and drugs go hand in hand. It is all to often a person fails a drug test and is fired from their job. Left with a habit and no income they turn to crime to support that habit. To answer the question of whether weed is harmful all one has to do is look up one of the old heads from school. It is like they are in slow motion. Ask for one of their names and it takes them five minutes to remember what it is and tell you. It is just nonsense to claim marijuana is good when it contains all the same ingredients as cigarettes. Contrary to belief all those chemicals aren't added to cigarettes. They are just a natural part of the tobacco plant, same as weed. The problem is with people, and the thinking that some kind of intoxicant is needed to get through the day.
Thank you for your comments, but I stand by my opinion. Try telling some of these many oxy dependant people how bad marijuana is. Marijuana doesn't even compare to the dangers these folks are facing with this deadly, highly addictive habit. It would be nice not to have the problems, no addition, cancer . etc. But thats not going to happen in this lifetime.
Mee

Virgie, KY

#20 Aug 12, 2012
I literally know dozens of people who quit smoking weed and started doing pills just becuase of drug testing. Pot metabolites stay in your system for 30 days pills only about 3 days.
Whats wrong with this picture!!!!
Homer

Cynthiana, KY

#21 Aug 12, 2012
Know wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for your comments, but I stand by my opinion. Try telling some of these many oxy dependant people how bad marijuana is. Marijuana doesn't even compare to the dangers these folks are facing with this deadly, highly addictive habit. It would be nice not to have the problems, no addition, cancer . etc. But thats not going to happen in this lifetime.
Just because weed isn't as bad as Oxy doesn't mean it is safe. Both are intoxicants and alter the brain. To prove my point there is a synthetic THC pill available but nobody wants a thing to do with it. They crave the high from smoking. For every benefit they try to claim weed would help there is already better and much safer alternatives available. For example some claim to use it for nausea, when Phenergan is a much better and safer alternative. It is all about the high. Would you feel safe getting in to an airplane knowing the pilot just smoked a joint? How about knowing the Police officer pulling you over just smoked one. I can safely say there is absolutely no way in hades I would get on that plane. As for the Officer, I would be tore up knowing someone with a loaded gun was pulling me over blown out of his head. Like I said, If you really want to know the effects simply look up one of the old high school heads. If someone has trouble remembering their own name it doesn't take a genius to figure out that person suffers from brain damage.
youre an ass

Pikeville, KY

#22 Aug 12, 2012
homer, aren't you the same moron saying MOST people that get tattoos regret them when theyre older. I've had mine since I was 18 years old. I m nearly 40 now and I still love mine as do most of the people I've actually KNOWN still love theirs. now yorue saying people that smoke weed can't remember anything. youre a twit. do you have any real life experience about anything or just talk about stuff you don't know anything about?lol

potheads are often very intelligent people that work hard. you're gullible if you believe a bunch of politicans that say weed makes you dumb and lazy.I agree that weed is bad for your lungs but it doesn't make you dumb or mess with your long term memory. I believe it's better to not start smoking it because it's a waste of money and there's better things to do with yoru life but you're not gonna turn into a halfwit from years of smoking pot. what's your excuse for being a halfwit? you don't smoke weed so what made you so stupid, momma drink while she was pregnant with you or drop you on your head? ;)

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