Is Total Economic Collapse Possible
Old Dude

Tucker, GA

#45 Sep 30, 2013
Historian wrote:
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And you are a God damned fool who deserves to starve!
Actually YOU are the Goddamned fool. Marxists like yourself don't even realize that your hero Karl Marx himself realized that socialism and his own Marxism inevitably leads to Communism. How did that work out for the Soviet Union you frigging idiot?
Fox News Is A Joke

Shelbiana, KY

#46 Sep 30, 2013
Old Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Actually YOU are the Goddamned fool. Marxists like yourself don't even realize that your hero Karl Marx himself realized that socialism and his own Marxism inevitably leads to Communism. How did that work out for the Soviet Union you frigging idiot?
Just about like your deadbeat sorry a-- has worked out for your useless Life.
Debt Ceiling

Winchester, KY

#47 Oct 1, 2013
Oct 17 is the critical day this month. If the hate filled Tea Party does not vote to raise the debt ceiling the real shut down begins. No social Security or Veterans benefits and more shut down, not a partial shut down.

Worse still the U.S. defaults on it's bonds, the world will dump the dollar and we will see a real 29 style crash. The only thing the Tea Party cares about is crashing the economy under Obama's watch. This they think will give them the senate during the mid term elections and the white house in 2016. They will actually crash the economy in order to take control of government. T most dangerous Party we ever had to deal with and the most dangerous time in history as far as our economy goes. Oct. 17 is the real challenge, it they play chicken with this one it will destroy us. We got downgraded last time for just arguing over it.
worker

Pikeville, KY

#48 Oct 1, 2013
well said but you and every American knows what will happen on the 17th, the republicans will hold us hostage again with their demands instead of doing what is good/right for our country.
Debt Ceiling wrote:
Oct 17 is the critical day this month. If the hate filled Tea Party does not vote to raise the debt ceiling the real shut down begins. No social Security or Veterans benefits and more shut down, not a partial shut down.
Worse still the U.S. defaults on it's bonds, the world will dump the dollar and we will see a real 29 style crash. The only thing the Tea Party cares about is crashing the economy under Obama's watch. This they think will give them the senate during the mid term elections and the white house in 2016. They will actually crash the economy in order to take control of government. T most dangerous Party we ever had to deal with and the most dangerous time in history as far as our economy goes. Oct. 17 is the real challenge, it they play chicken with this one it will destroy us. We got downgraded last time for just arguing over it.
comrade zsolt sass

Germany

#49 Oct 1, 2013
Fellow americans the US ECONOMIC already COLLAPSED thanks to the HUSSAIN NEGRO CARE PROGRAM and because of the zionist controled FEDERAL RESERVE mismanagment .The one and only CHANCE any american has t SAVE THEIR MONEY is to bring it to RUSSIA===YES RUSSIA=== like many americans already did. THE RUSSIAN ECONOMY IS STABLE thanks to real LEADERSHIP ===BELOVED ZAR=== LOW TAXES 10% ,HIGH INTEREST RATES, SPECIAL BENIFITS FOR FOREIGN INVESTORS,in RUSSIA you are SPECIAL and recieve very SPECIAL treatment, so you comon sense amd the love to your MONEY shall tell you to bring your FUNDS into the SAVEHEAVEN RUSSIA before its to late.Be awere and concered and embraced by your 6 sense and do the right thing and contact your next RUSSIAN EMBASSY or CONSULATE and ask them to advise and assist you to SAVE YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY.GOD BLESS you and your WEALTH .comrade,freedomfighter ,zsolt sass
Historian

Hopkinsville, KY

#50 Oct 1, 2013
Debt Ceiling wrote:
Oct 17 is the critical day this month. If the hate filled Tea Party does not vote to raise the debt ceiling the real shut down begins. No social Security or Veterans benefits and more shut down, not a partial shut down.
Worse still the U.S. defaults on it's bonds, the world will dump the dollar and we will see a real 29 style crash. The only thing the Tea Party cares about is crashing the economy under Obama's watch. This they think will give them the senate during the mid term elections and the white house in 2016. They will actually crash the economy in order to take control of government. T most dangerous Party we ever had to deal with and the most dangerous time in history as far as our economy goes. Oct. 17 is the real challenge, it they play chicken with this one it will destroy us. We got downgraded last time for just arguing over it.
You are right, but are not looking deeply enough at the Tea Party. They are, and think of themselves as, "conservative" revolutionaries. Winning the elections in 2016 is only a stepping stone toward their revolutionary goal, which is to totally restructure American government, society, and economy. Their end goal is something that resembles the American minimalist government and social-economic structure of about 1900. That is the libertarian part inspired by the writing of von Mises, Murray Rothbard, and Ayn Rand (who liberals give far too much emphasis to; Rothbard is the real architect). There is also a Christian Reconstructionist part inspired by Rev. Gary North that wants a theocracy something like an idealized version of the Puritans. For now the economic libertarians have put aside their libertarian social ideas (which go directly against the grain of the Christian Reconstructionists' moral beliefs) and the Christian Reconstructionists have put aside Jesus's teachings about excess wealth and formed a queer coalition.

One side or the other in this queer marriage of convenience is bound to eventually challenge the other, and when it does... Talk about a messy, violent divorce!
Big Cat

Richmond, KY

#51 Oct 1, 2013
comrade zsolt sass wrote:
Fellow americans the US ECONOMIC already COLLAPSED thanks to the HUSSAIN NEGRO CARE PROGRAM and because of the zionist controled FEDERAL RESERVE mismanagment .The one and only CHANCE any american has t SAVE THEIR MONEY is to bring it to RUSSIA===YES RUSSIA=== like many americans already did. THE RUSSIAN ECONOMY IS STABLE thanks to real LEADERSHIP ===BELOVED ZAR=== LOW TAXES 10%,HIGH INTEREST RATES, SPECIAL BENIFITS FOR FOREIGN INVESTORS,in RUSSIA you are SPECIAL and recieve very SPECIAL treatment, so you comon sense amd the love to your MONEY shall tell you to bring your FUNDS into the SAVEHEAVEN RUSSIA before its to late.Be awere and concered and embraced by your 6 sense and do the right thing and contact your next RUSSIAN EMBASSY or CONSULATE and ask them to advise and assist you to SAVE YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY.GOD BLESS you and your WEALTH .comrade,freedomfighter ,zsolt sass
I'd rather live in an outhouse in Appalachia.....
The Russian Bear

Winchester, KY

#52 Oct 1, 2013
comrade zsolt sass wrote:
Fellow americans the US ECONOMIC already COLLAPSED thanks to the HUSSAIN NEGRO CARE PROGRAM and because of the zionist controled FEDERAL RESERVE mismanagment .The one and only CHANCE any american has t SAVE THEIR MONEY is to bring it to RUSSIA===YES RUSSIA=== like many americans already did. THE RUSSIAN ECONOMY IS STABLE thanks to real LEADERSHIP ===BELOVED ZAR=== LOW TAXES 10%,HIGH INTEREST RATES, SPECIAL BENIFITS FOR FOREIGN INVESTORS,in RUSSIA you are SPECIAL and recieve very SPECIAL treatment, so you comon sense amd the love to your MONEY shall tell you to bring your FUNDS into the SAVEHEAVEN RUSSIA before its to late.Be awere and concered and embraced by your 6 sense and do the right thing and contact your next RUSSIAN EMBASSY or CONSULATE and ask them to advise and assist you to SAVE YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY.GOD BLESS you and your WEALTH .comrade,freedomfighter ,zsolt sass
Russia is doing so well because of it's oil and gas, Russia is an oil exporter. They are more capitalist now than we are, the American economist that helped steer them through the recovery after the fall of the soviet union were fairly conservative. Russia has a wealth of natural resources and is poised to overtake even the U.S. and Communist Chinese. The only thing that hold them back is corruption that is still wide spread throughout their business and government. Until they get a handle on their corruption they will always be sucking hind tit.

and Oh Yea! If I were you I would not be speaking German to a Russian, I hear they are still a little sensitive about the last time you guys invested in their country!
sack of holes

Versailles, KY

#53 Oct 1, 2013
dunadd wrote:
The Democrats are socialists, with some of the communist variety.
an you dunnad.are truley.mentaly unsocial an cannot grasp that the divided republican congress.are hurting no one but the working class famileys.Healthcare is passed.obama is in his last term.now who is being punished...
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#55 Oct 1, 2013
It ain't a divided Republican Congress. It is Republican/Democrat=socialist Congress, both houses.
All the working class I know are, oh no, working!
The loafers of the socialist party, you know, voters for Oblamer are the ones not working.
Clutch

Pikeville, KY

#56 Oct 1, 2013
The Russian Bear wrote:
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Russia is doing so well because of it's oil and gas, Russia is an oil exporter. They are more capitalist now than we are, the American economist that helped steer them through the recovery after the fall of the soviet union were fairly conservative. Russia has a wealth of natural resources and is poised to overtake even the U.S. and Communist Chinese. The only thing that hold them back is corruption that is still wide spread throughout their business and government. Until they get a handle on their corruption they will always be sucking hind tit.
and Oh Yea! If I were you I would not be speaking German to a Russian, I hear they are still a little sensitive about the last time you guys invested in their country!
We just passed Russia as the number one natural gas producer. According to economist we are poised to be the number one oil producer in a few years. Russia will always be corrupt and behind the rest of the civilized world.
Down and out in Pikeville

Winchester, KY

#57 Oct 1, 2013
Hard to find a job after George Bush and Goldman Sachs crashed the economy in 08. What was left of living wage jobs got outsourced. The only job a tea party republican wants you to have is a less than living wage job, no health insurance and no retirement. Just throw out term socialist and it is supposed to be the end all argument, the government being human to the working class and providing health care since the corporations are not going to is supposed to be a bad thing?
I would rather be a socialist than a GD hard hearted Tea Party Puke that just cut kids off food stamp program. When the system falls apart and the economy crashes you won't find one in 10 that will ever admit to being a Tea Party Republican and they will be apologizing for it. Right before a hungry mob strings them up.
old dude

Kimper, KY

#58 Oct 1, 2013
Down and out in Pikeville wrote:
Hard to find a job after George Bush and Goldman Sachs crashed the economy in 08. What was left of living wage jobs got outsourced. The only job a tea party republican wants you to have is a less than living wage job, no health insurance and no retirement. Just throw out term socialist and it is supposed to be the end all argument, the government being human to the working class and providing health care since the corporations are not going to is supposed to be a bad thing?
I would rather be a socialist than a GD hard hearted Tea Party Puke that just cut kids off food stamp program. When the system falls apart and the economy crashes you won't find one in 10 that will ever admit to being a Tea Party Republican and they will be apologizing for it. Right before a hungry mob strings them up.
See this is the problem....an angry mob. Liberalism got its start and its base in an angry mob;the French Revolution to be exact. Right now we have an administration who was elected by an angry mob. And what have we got? A bunch of people who are now relying on a bunch of liberal elites to throw them some crumbs because they voted for them. Never mind that the administration has done not ONE Goddamned thing to give you dummies a JOB or create jobs for you. You should be screaming bloody murder for them to get you a job so you can improve your life;not bitching about Republicans for taking away your CRUMBS.
Historian

Paducah, KY

#59 Oct 1, 2013
Down and out in Pikeville wrote:
Hard to find a job after George Bush and Goldman Sachs crashed the economy in 08. What was left of living wage jobs got outsourced. The only job a tea party republican wants you to have is a less than living wage job, no health insurance and no retirement. Just throw out term socialist and it is supposed to be the end all argument, the government being human to the working class and providing health care since the corporations are not going to is supposed to be a bad thing?
I would rather be a socialist than a GD hard hearted Tea Party Puke that just cut kids off food stamp program. When the system falls apart and the economy crashes you won't find one in 10 that will ever admit to being a Tea Party Republican and they will be apologizing for it. Right before a hungry mob strings them up.
It just isn't "welfare" and food stamps that the far right economic libertarian side of the Tea Party want to abolish.

They even want to do away with public schools.
old dude

Kimper, KY

#60 Oct 1, 2013
No one I know ever got rich from being on the draw. They don't have private jets,fine mansions,the best of food or all the pleasures money can buy. Do you people think that rich people ALL inherited their wealth? Most millionaires in America are small business owners who worked and built what they have. Look around you;sure there a few people who have inherited a lot of money;a few families who have always seemed to have it made but MOST successful people stayed in school,worked to build their business whether its a doctor,lawyer,owner of a chain of grocery stores or a building contractor. They are in your neighborhoods and maybe don't draw attention to themselves. Maybe they drive a Buick instead of a Caddy or Mercedes. Obama and his liberal elites are counting on dummies and lazy a$$es for THEIR money and power. They AIN"T DOING YOU ANY FAVORS. DEMAND they find you work.
old dude

Kimper, KY

#61 Oct 1, 2013
Historian wrote:
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It just isn't "welfare" and food stamps that the far right economic libertarian side of the Tea Party want to abolish.
They even want to do away with public schools.
Where in the Hell do you come up with your wacky ideas? Doing away with the Federal dept of Education maybe....give education back to the states...in fact give MOST of gov't back to the states. You are a Marxist,we've already determined that.
Russian Roulette

Winchester, KY

#62 Oct 1, 2013
old dude wrote:
<quoted text> See this is the problem....an angry mob. Liberalism got its start and its base in an angry mob;the French Revolution to be exact. Right now we have an administration who was elected by an angry mob. And what have we got? A bunch of people who are now relying on a bunch of liberal elites to throw them some crumbs because they voted for them. Never mind that the administration has done not ONE Goddamned thing to give you dummies a JOB or create jobs for you. You should be screaming bloody murder for them to get you a job so you can improve your life;not bitching about Republicans for taking away your CRUMBS.
Depends on your definition of a job, a living wage job with a pension and good health care. No one will work these chicken shit jobs with no health care or pensions while the corporate types live like kings. I would just as soon do as the French did and tear down thie royal 1% bunch of aholes with the silver sppon up their azz. What good is a government if it is not for all the people, not just a privileged few. The working class deserves to have a say in government and a stake in the country, not just the corporate and wall street lobby writing legislation for them.
You wipe out the working and middle class you always have revolution when it comes down to the have's and the nave not's.
As for me I have never drawed as you say a day in my life and the only GD gripe I got is that I am not getting paid s#*t on my money. I'm just telling you this 30 year experiment to wipe out the middle class will not end well, never has and never will. If the government can provide health care for the 46,000,000 that don't have it why should you or the Tea Baggers care. Thing is corporations don't want to pay for it and now the hateful sons of a bitches don't want the government to provide it either.
Time to tear it down and start over, hell this country was born in revolution and the Tea Party is setting up the conditions for another.
I totally agree

Charleston, WV

#64 Oct 1, 2013
old dude wrote:
<quoted text> Where in the Hell do you come up with your wacky ideas? Doing away with the Federal dept of Education maybe....give education back to the states...in fact give MOST of gov't back to the states. You are a Marxist,we've already determined that.
I agree with you. The Department of Education was started under the Carter Administration. Look what great strides we've made since then (Sarcasm). Back in the 40-50-and 60's, kids got a much better education than today. Do away with the Dept. of Education and turn it back over to the states where it belongs. It's been all down hill ever since the Federal Government stuck their big nose in it telling what to teach, who to teach, how to teach, when to teach, what books to use, what to eat, how much to exercise, blah, blah, blah. Most people you talk to don't even know there was no Dept. of Education before the 1970's. Most of your grandparents and some parents graduated with no Federal Dept. of Education and their education is light years ahead of the generations graduating now!
old dude

Pikeville, KY

#65 Oct 1, 2013
Russian Roulette wrote:
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Depends on your definition of a job, a living wage job with a pension and good health care. No one will work these chicken shit jobs with no health care or pensions while the corporate types live like kings. I would just as soon do as the French did and tear down thie royal 1% bunch of aholes with the silver sppon up their azz. What good is a government if it is not for all the people, not just a privileged few. The working class deserves to have a say in government and a stake in the country, not just the corporate and wall street lobby writing legislation for them.
You wipe out the working and middle class you always have revolution when it comes down to the have's and the nave not's.
As for me I have never drawed as you say a day in my life and the only GD gripe I got is that I am not getting paid s#*t on my money. I'm just telling you this 30 year experiment to wipe out the middle class will not end well, never has and never will. If the government can provide health care for the 46,000,000 that don't have it why should you or the Tea Baggers care. Thing is corporations don't want to pay for it and now the hateful sons of a bitches don't want the government to provide it either.
Time to tear it down and start over, hell this country was born in revolution and the Tea Party is setting up the conditions for another.
You got a lot of good points man,but the gov't can't AFFORD to provide health care for I think the figure is actually 15 million without it. The reason you ain't being paid sh!t for your money is because the damned gov't through Ben Bernanke and the FED is LYING about the rate of inflation and ARTIFICIALLY keeping interest rates low because the democrats wanted every ngr in America to buy a house whether they could afford it or not. They COULDN'T and here we are. Did banks contribute to this ? Of course but where is the INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNTABILITY? The Democrats blamed the banks for their failed program. Bush should NEVER have bailed out ANYBODY. Individuals or banks. You can't tear down everything and fix it but you can DEMAND the gov't stop enacting EPA laws that kill an entire job market or refusing to approve a pipeline that would create jobs. You can tell them to stick windmills and solar power and electric cars up their a$$ and work on providing a welcoming atmosphere toward business. Putting Americans back to work is the answer here....not more job killing regs and pie in the sky global warming bullsh!t studies. By the way,take your money out of c.d.'s if you have it and buy bond funds or stock funds. I've made money this way....or just put it in a sock if that's too risky for you.
Ticking Bomb

Winchester, KY

#67 Oct 1, 2013
On top of the 800 billion TARP fund the taxpayers paid to bail out Wall Street the FED gave them 3.2 Trillion, it took 3 years after the crash to even find out about it.
Bush's man was from Goldman Sachs, and so was Obama's the place were the shell game was invented and executed that melted down the economy. The Tea Party is Corporate and Wall Street owned and paid for. They never should have taken the common sense lending rules from borrowing to buy a home or should have never allowed instruments such as Balloon payments or Adjustable Rate Mortgages, especially in the government backed loans. The big problem was doing away with the regulations and rules that separated the banks from Wall Street. Goldman Sachs sold the toxic mortgages in the hedge funds and betted on them to fail, also had them insured by AIG which the SEC should have never allowed.
The to big to fail are 5 times larger now, they are about to fleece the sheep again, they will crash it out and come in and buy anything of any real value for pennies on the dollar. The Tea Party is just the puppets of their Wall Street Masters, holding the country hostage.

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