Agree

Winchester, KY

#21 May 10, 2012
Laughing wrote:
<quoted text>Gee, sounds like you pulled the wrong tit. First of all Wagoner is not put in office by votes! He has a contract and he is going no where. They will actually call the state to come in. They don't want to be responsible for anyone losing their jobs. If they state comes in and has a big lay-off, the board can always say "not our fault" we did not do it. Do you think they actually care if the state takes over. It is only for a little while. They come in, make some suggestions and walk back out the door. Many teachers will be losing jobs. Now, if it makes you happy to see your child getting a poor quality education then "don't worry, be happy."
First of all I know he is not voted in by the people. The board members are voted in that gives him a contract. We need to vote against the board members that are for the super to reign another term. No one wants to see teachers laid off it's those 100 day wanders and stipends and all the unnecessary jobs with high salaries. Why do you think the system is in the RED?
LifeStyles of the Rich

Mount Sterling, KY

#22 May 10, 2012
Laughing wrote:
<quoted text>Gee, sounds like you pulled the wrong tit. First of all Wagoner is not put in office by votes! He has a contract and he is going no where. They will actually call the state to come in. They don't want to be responsible for anyone losing their jobs. If they state comes in and has a big lay-off, the board can always say "not our fault" we did not do it. Do you think they actually care if the state takes over. It is only for a little while. They come in, make some suggestions and walk back out the door. Many teachers will be losing jobs. Now, if it makes you happy to see your child getting a poor quality education then "don't worry, be happy."
and Famous! Thank You for confirming the fact we have a gutless patronage Political Good ole Boy Penthouse Club for a School System. Awarded to many cronies those choice 100 day wonder jobs and place incompetent people in critical albeit high paying positions. Then when their mismanagement and waste throws the system into a 2 million dollar deficit they take the cowards way out, invite the state in to do their dirty work for them.
It has been known for several years the budget was getting out of hand and that tough decisions would have to be made. Every other stante and county agency has already adjusted to todays economic conditions and has made cuts across the board for the last 4 years. The state has cut over 30% from the budget in the last 3 years without raising taxes. The School Board needs to follow the States example. The PCBOE is also abusing their taxing authority and it should be taken from them. As parents struggle day to day to feed and cloth their family we do not need to be buying Lexus and Mercedes cars for the 100 day wonders and vacation homes. The Penthouse Administration Building was not meant to be the Pike County version of the rich and famous.
We need to be very careful which school board member we vote for, this will not be the time for yes men and just more members for the good ole boy Penthouse club.
Mercedes Song

Mount Sterling, KY

#23 May 10, 2012
Oh Lord! Won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz
My Friends all drive Porsche's
So I must make amends!
I sucked hard all my life
with no help from my friends!

Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz...lol
Laughing

Virgie, KY

#24 May 10, 2012
Agree wrote:
<quoted text>
First of all I know he is not voted in by the people. The board members are voted in that gives him a contract. We need to vote against the board members that are for the super to reign another term. No one wants to see teachers laid off it's those 100 day wanders and stipends and all the unnecessary jobs with high salaries. Why do you think the system is in the RED?
I can't say why they are in the red because I have not audited the books. Have you? When you do please let us all know your results. Did it ever occur to you those people are hired to actually save money. The positions are there. Would you rather them hire a full time employee which has to be paid benefits? Teachers will be be laid off. It is happening all of the US. Federal monies have been cut to states, and will continue to be cut. If the state doesn't have it, they can't grant it to the school systems. If you would watch the news you know this is a nation wide problem.
TFC

Betsy Layne, KY

#25 May 10, 2012
The board does not pay anyone benefits. The benefits they receive are all paid by the state of Kentucky.
Laughing wrote:
<quoted text>I can't say why they are in the red because I have not audited the books. Have you? When you do please let us all know your results. Did it ever occur to you those people are hired to actually save money. The positions are there. Would you rather them hire a full time employee which has to be paid benefits? Teachers will be be laid off. It is happening all of the US. Federal monies have been cut to states, and will continue to be cut. If the state doesn't have it, they can't grant it to the school systems. If you would watch the news you know this is a nation wide problem.
100 Day Wonder

Mount Sterling, KY

#26 May 10, 2012
Laughing wrote:
<quoted text>I can't say why they are in the red because I have not audited the books. Have you? When you do please let us all know your results. Did it ever occur to you those people are hired to actually save money. The positions are there. Would you rather them hire a full time employee which has to be paid benefits? Teachers will be be laid off. It is happening all of the US. Federal monies have been cut to states, and will continue to be cut. If the state doesn't have it, they can't grant it to the school systems. If you would watch the news you know this is a nation wide problem.
Spoken like a true 100 day wonder. If you hire one competent person full time that knows what they are doing you do better than 2 or 3 100 day wonders that only know how to chase skirt and BS the day away. Take that Lexus out and get it detailed. When you are hired for the administrative office to handle the budget it helps when your back ground is actually in finance. Not a political crony that was just loyal as an old lap dog. 100 day wonder's much not be much of a bargain. 2 million in debt and the state taking over, show me how efficient they were and how come they busted out the budget if they were so good!....lol
retired

Richmond, KY

#27 May 10, 2012
100 Day Wonder wrote:
<quoted text>
Spoken like a true 100 day wonder. If you hire one competent person full time that knows what they are doing you do better than 2 or 3 100 day wonders that only know how to chase skirt and BS the day away. Take that Lexus out and get it detailed. When you are hired for the administrative office to handle the budget it helps when your back ground is actually in finance. Not a political crony that was just loyal as an old lap dog. 100 day wonder's much not be much of a bargain. 2 million in debt and the state taking over, show me how efficient they were and how come they busted out the budget if they were so good!....lol
Save the children,get rid of 50% of them sorry asses that don"t want to even be in the classroom,same thing with these sorry ass principles that let so much go on in these classrooms,all of theses schools good do better if they would put new faces in the principles office.Retire or file a disablity claim.
paul

Richmond, KY

#28 May 10, 2012
Mercedes Song wrote:
Oh Lord! Won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz
My Friends all drive Porsche's
So I must make amends!
I sucked hard all my life
with no help from my friends!
Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz...lol
need to learn the methods of sucking,for your ass is going to be driving down MEMORY LANE,with no rear veiw mirror.
ronnie

Richmond, KY

#29 May 10, 2012
TFC wrote:
The board does not pay anyone benefits. The benefits they receive are all paid by the state of Kentucky.
<quoted text>
maybe retired but you are sure as hell retarded.
TFC

Virgie, KY

#30 May 10, 2012
Well you can call me whatever you desire but the fact remains that the board does not pay for benefits. That's pretty simple information if you make a request through the open records act.
ronnie wrote:
<quoted text>maybe retired but you are sure as hell retarded.
Vague Threats

Richmond, KY

#31 May 11, 2012
paul wrote:
<quoted text>need to learn the methods of sucking,for your ass is going to be driving down MEMORY LANE,with no rear veiw mirror.
may work for the scared rabbit sucks in the PCBOE, the little job scared rabbits that have to tow the line to stay in the Penthouse Club. I would like the memory of having busted out that bunch of political hacks that have run the Pike County School Board into the ground. No good defence for the way that circus is run so you think you are going to scare someone off the thread with vague threats. I will leave the sucking to the 100 day wonders and the wannabe's.

Take your best shot and we will see who likes the drive down MEMORY LANE!....LOL
Family Planning

Winchester, KY

#32 May 11, 2012
The party is over, the days of tax and spend at all levels is over. The Pike County Board of Education has grown to one of the largest enterprises in the State. It is not so much graft that has caused this new budget crisis but complacency and incompetence. Yes it is a difficult task to stay on top of a budget and an enterprise this large but most agencies mange successfully. Budget projection is as much a part of budget management as the actual crunching of the fiscal year numbers. You would have to be an ostrich not to notice the reduction of money’s from the state and federal government in other agencies and not to have taken some actions to offset a reduction in funding. You just can’t come in after 4 years of a deep recession and the state making cuts for the last 4 years and start finger pointing. The people responsible for the budget should have had a clue,“hey the state is cutting funding and so is the Feds” maybe we should be taking some steps to reduce our funding needs accordingly.
The training component was lacking for sure, the state said so after the last as yet to be seen audit recommended. It is hard to concentrate on old boring things like the budget when you are on that extended 2 hour lunch or working on your own 401K. Other agencies have been cutting back and taking furlough days for years and more will be cutting back this year. I feel some cuts in waste, greed and administrative cost could have saved some teaching and certified positions. I mean after all taking 6 or 8 furlough days is better than losing the whole job!
Now it is gloom and doom and everybody trying to figure out how to save their own job or cover their butt. Crunch time because the new fiscal year is getting close. Would nave been as easier transition to a tight budget if some planning and precautionary cuts had been made all along. Now it will be a shame to watch the teaching and other positions cut in very hard economic times.
Don't worry if you have the right connections you are safe. If you are not in the political click, Goodbye!
kih

Pikeville, KY

#34 May 12, 2012
Agree wrote:
<quoted text>
First of all I know he is not voted in by the people. The board members are voted in that gives him a contract. We need to vote against the board members that are for the super to reign another term. No one wants to see teachers laid off it's those 100 day wanders and stipends and all the unnecessary jobs with high salaries. Why do you think the system is in the RED?
earl t. gave him his job
artist

Jackson, KY

#35 May 12, 2012
Janis Joplin is alive.....
Broke Board

Stanton, KY

#36 May 13, 2012
The end product or the purpose of the PCBOE is the student, however the administration has become more and more self oriented. The most important part of the system other than the student the end product is the teacher. Administration is of course necessary but should be streamlined and objective oriented, that being the success of the end product the student.

There is also a fairness issue here, most of the teachers that will get laid off have not met retirement age. The administration that will survive the budget cuts have one retirement and working on their second. Laying off teachers that are more important to the objective making them unemployed and keeping people that have a steady income source and are working on another. Most are running around selling insurance or have some other money scheme they sell to a captive audience that feel pressure to buy the stuff..

I laugh at the notion about all the teachers in the system had Woodsmen of the World Insurance at one time...lol..Oh in reality it was a pretty good investment but the notion of someone peddling it on company time is still a little hard to understand.

I think there needs to be cuts in administration cost anyway and it would be more human to layoff people that already have one retirement worked out and will not be as devistated as a teacher that has not reach retirement age. If you have to layoff down to the teaching level you should make all other cuts possible...Keep the most important part of the equation, the people that actually develop the end product "the student". Greed should not stand in the way of doing the right thing and actually concentrating on what we are here for...the student!
Bill

Harold, KY

#37 May 13, 2012
They ain't broke, they're starving everyone out so they can buy more votes near election time by giving jobs out to friends.
concernedparent

Pikeville, KY

#38 May 13, 2012
100 day teachers seem to be a waste of time and money. There r 28 students, 1 teacher, and no aides, while the 100 day teacher is teaching music/art, or humanities/ practical living. Although I do believe these subjects need to be taught elementary teacher r qualified to teach all of these subjects! I know because I am an elementary teacher who is looking for a job and has been for the last 4 years. When I asked what my chances were in getting a job I was asked " what r ur chances of winning the lottery, because getting a job is about the same chance" I also have a daughter in the school system who had 28 kids in her class! This is unbelievable!!
100 Day Wonders

Paintsville, KY

#39 May 13, 2012
concernedparent wrote:
100 day teachers seem to be a waste of time and money. There r 28 students, 1 teacher, and no aides, while the 100 day teacher is teaching music/art, or humanities/ practical living. Although I do believe these subjects need to be taught elementary teacher r qualified to teach all of these subjects! I know because I am an elementary teacher who is looking for a job and has been for the last 4 years. When I asked what my chances were in getting a job I was asked " what r ur chances of winning the lottery, because getting a job is about the same chance" I also have a daughter in the school system who had 28 kids in her class! This is unbelievable!!
I believe the 100 day contracts most question are in administration not teaching! Retired teachers or personnel that are retired and get hired back in down at the administration building with title's that have vague job descriptions. The big concern is laying off teachers while the double employed add to the administrative cost that put the system in the Red!
Lisa

Sharpsburg, KY

#40 May 13, 2012
Bill wrote:
They ain't broke, they're starving everyone out so they can buy more votes near election time by giving jobs out to friends.
Thats the way Welch,Johns,Dotson done, thats how you got started Bill D.
Sharpshooter

San Antonio, TX

#41 Sep 15, 2012
concernedparent wrote:
100 day teachers seem to be a waste of time and money. There r 28 students, 1 teacher, and no aides, while the 100 day teacher is teaching music/art, or humanities/ practical living. Although I do believe these subjects need to be taught elementary teacher r qualified to teach all of these subjects! I know because I am an elementary teacher who is looking for a job and has been for the last 4 years. When I asked what my chances were in getting a job I was asked " what r ur chances of winning the lottery, because getting a job is about the same chance" I also have a daughter in the school system who had 28 kids in her class! This is unbelievable!!
KRS 157.360 Base funding level -- Adjustment -- Enforcement of maximum class sizes -- Allotment of program funds -- Recalculation of allocated funds -- Lengthening of school days.
Except for those schools which have implemented school-based decision making, the commissioner of education shall enforce maximum class sizes for every academic course requirement in all grades except in vocal and instrumental music, and physical education classes. Except as provided in subsection (5) of this section, the maximum number of pupils enrolled in a class shall be as follows:
1. Twenty-four (24) in primary grades (kindergarten through third grade);
2. Twenty-eight (28) in grade four (4);
3. Twenty-nine (29) in grades five (5) and six (6);
4. Thirty-one (31) in grades seven (7) to twelve (12).

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