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depends on how you look

Little Neck, NY

#227 Sep 24, 2013
I heard about this case today from watching an episode of "City Confidential" which was probably old. Not to make excuses for any of these kids because what they did was unthinkable, but my first thought as a parent myself was if these kids were on a path, maybe sports or dance or art or music, that might have kept them out of trouble. In this documentary it portrayed Pikeville, KY as a very poor, depressed place where kids have very little to do. It was even said that the school dropped the ball on her when she was in a personal crisis with her mother's attempted suicide. I believe that more attention and resources needs to be spent on kids, especially teenagers to ensure that they do positive things and don't make bad choices that affect them for the rest of their lives.
Roman

Chatsworth, CA

#228 Sep 25, 2013
depends on how you look wrote:
I heard about this case today from watching an episode of "City Confidential" which was probably old. Not to make excuses for any of these kids because what they did was unthinkable, but my first thought as a parent myself was if these kids were on a path, maybe sports or dance or art or music, that might have kept them out of trouble. In this documentary it portrayed Pikeville, KY as a very poor, depressed place where kids have very little to do. It was even said that the school dropped the ball on her when she was in a personal crisis with her mother's attempted suicide. I believe that more attention and resources needs to be spent on kids, especially teenagers to ensure that they do positive things and don't make bad choices that affect them for the rest of their lives.
That documentary is unfortunate. Lots of inaccuracies and myths and straight up lies
Dez

Bolton, UK

#229 Oct 3, 2013
tragic murder for sure but karen howell was hot..
Dez

Bolton, UK

#230 Oct 3, 2013
Karen howell is hot man. i thinks she should be set free. she's paid her debt
Dez

Bolton, UK

#231 Oct 3, 2013
yep they had trophies wrote:
and by the way I actually knew karen howell personally and always liked her before she did this. one of my buddies were also one of her close buddies. I v'e hung out with her a bunch of times and talked to her more than my fair share. I always thought she was a little wierd but nice. goes to show you don't ever truly know someone I quess.
Seeing her give evidence in court she appeared to be such a gentle girl i cant understand how she came to involved in this. do you have any explanation
Roman

Chatsworth, CA

#232 Oct 3, 2013
Dez wrote:
<quoted text>
Seeing her give evidence in court she appeared to be such a gentle girl i cant understand how she came to involved in this. do you have any explanation
Pretty simple explanation, actually. The police got her name in connection with the Colley Motel trashing. So they left town and headed to New Orleans. By all accounts she was indeed a gentle person and had no violent record to speak of. She murdered no one, nor did she approve of the murders nor did she want anyone murdered that day or ever. The whole "Satanic Cult" thing was a media creation (spurred on by Eric Conn among others) created to make them all seem like vicious, evil murderers. Ignorant people bought right into the hysteria and many still do to this day.

You can watch more about it here:
&fe ature=youtu.be
Rhys

Greenock, UK

#233 Nov 22, 2013
Mike S wrote:
<quoted text>Did Karen ever reply to you?
Nah not heard anything. Didn't expect to either.
NikkiNicole

Grand Rapids, MI

#234 Aug 31, 2014
Karen Howell, Natasha Cornette & Christa Pike, I LOVE YOU BABIES! Great to have met you & see for myself that people create the monsters they say you are because their bored in tiny Towns, you're absolutely nothing as they say! Keep your beautiful heads up and NEVER give up the fight! People's ignorance make My babies famous Hahahahaha!#morons Get a life and get over it damn!
NikkiNicole

Grand Rapids, MI

#235 Aug 31, 2014
Dez wrote:
tragic murder for sure but karen howell was hot..
Hahahahaha she's even hotter in person! ;)
reality

Thelma, KY

#236 Aug 31, 2014
NikkiNicole wrote:
Karen Howell, Natasha Cornette & Christa Pike, I LOVE YOU BABIES! Great to have met you & see for myself that people create the monsters they say you are because their bored in tiny Towns, you're absolutely nothing as they say! Keep your beautiful heads up and NEVER give up the fight! People's ignorance make My babies famous Hahahahaha!#morons Get a life and get over it damn!
Since you love the murderers so much, maybe you should have been with them and you could be spending your time in prison with them.
monster inc

Pikeville, KY

#237 Aug 31, 2014
christa pike beat some girl's brains out and kept a piece of her skull to show off at job corp school. I t hink it's safe to say she's a monster.
monster inc

Pikeville, KY

#238 Aug 31, 2014
to nikki or nicole...karen and natasha both get to live the same life everyday. lol who cares if they're famous. they can't fully enjoy it. they get told when to eat, when to sleep when to shower. it's like groundhog dog. same thing, every day. NO HOPE. you ever felt hopeless? it's a sad thing. they deserve the hopeless life they have. they'll never get to live outside the tiny box they created for themselves so if you think living in this small down is bad or hopeless you better feel real sorry for those two monsters. I live in a small town. I can breathe fresh air when I want. go walk when I want. date when I want. hug my family when I want. go to college when I want, get a job when I want. marry when I want. have kids when I want. FREEDOM! I'm kinda glad they didn't get to to death in a way. being hopeless, wanting so bad to have a life and not getting to fully live one is a great punishment. I hope they live a long hopeless meaningless empty life in prison. they'll never get out. that's there one hope and it's a slim to non existant one. false hope, that's the worst kind of hope. it's even worse than no hope. hahaha

I also have to wonder, are you initials A Y or were they roman?
monster inc

Pikeville, KY

#239 Aug 31, 2014
typo. their life is like groundhog day. same thing every day. if I eat the same food every day I get bored. if I do the same thing every day I get bored. if I think the same thoughts every day I get bored. I'm so glad I can keep myself happy just thinking about the endless possible things I can do with my life and then actually do them. they get to wonder about what's on the menu today. pizza or bolona. lol sit at the same table everyday. talk to the same losers everyday. have the same pointless convo with their loser family that they've had over and over. file the same pointless hopeless motions with their lawyers to get out of prison over and over and over and over and over. hahahaha it's a sad existence. it aint living, it's just spending your time breathing and eating and talking. so depressing. such a pointless existence. I honestly get so sad living that life that I'd kill myself. what's the point of even getting out of bed when you go through the same empty motions every day. karen gets to play with dogs or train them. whooppeee. I can do that anytime I want and have plenty of time and choices to do lots of other stuff. lol didn't natasha get her g E d. hahaha what's she gonna do with it. NOTHING! tha's so pathetic!
monster inc

Pikeville, KY

#240 Aug 31, 2014
I might even write them a letter in jail to remind them of how hopeless their lives are just to entertain myself, IF I GOT TIME. I do have better things to do, unlike them. they have all the time in the world to think and regret their choices. I don't think they need reminded, how can you forget when you're in their place but it would be a fun letter to send out. get me a taste of writing a "famous" person. lol
Roman

Los Angeles, CA

#241 Dec 23, 2014
Rhys wrote:
<quoted text> Nah not heard anything. Didn't expect to either.
Karen Howell's sentencing hearing:

http://vimeo.com/113564256

password is "karen"
Pike Central Girl

Lafayette, TN

#242 Mar 2, 2015
There's a teacher at pike central not sure if she's still there but Natasha asked the teachers mother to make her an all black wedding dress and black pillows for the rings for her wedding she had planned for two Rottweilers to carry the rings down the isle for them....the weirdness gets better I just can't remember all the details but if Mrs. Slone is still teaching she'll tell you the whole thing!
just sayin

Boardman, OR

#243 Mar 19, 2015
Roman wrote:
<quoted text>
Pretty simple explanation, actually. The police got her name in connection with the Colley Motel trashing. So they left town and headed to New Orleans. By all accounts she was indeed a gentle person and had no violent record to speak of. She murdered no one, nor did she approve of the murders nor did she want anyone murdered that day or ever. The whole "Satanic Cult" thing was a media creation (spurred on by Eric Conn among others) created to make them all seem like vicious, evil murderers. Ignorant people bought right into the hysteria and many still do to this day.
You can watch more about it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ONLRuHKpOgkXX&feature=you tu.be
My question is why are you so certain that they are innocent? It seems that you have your mind made up. You seem to have lost sight of the fact that three people are dead! If it were your family would you be so quick to question their guilt? If all six didn't pull the trigger, does that mean that they deserve to go free? How can you be certain of anything? The evidence may not place a smoking gun in all six hands, but it doesn't rule out the possibility that everyone was involved in some way. In the end your logic seems to be just as flawed as that of the prosecution. I don't know that there is a way to know with 100% certainty what happened that day because the victims cannot speak. My problem is that we seem to live in a society that turns offenders into victims.
Roman

Sherman Oaks, CA

#244 Mar 19, 2015
just sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
My question is why are you so certain that they are innocent? It seems that you have your mind made up.
A fair question. I am certain because I studied the evidence closely for years and everything clearly points in that direction. I don't form opinions until I have studied both sides of a case thoroughly. So yes, my mind is made up until someone can refute the things I have brought up in this debate. So far no one is able to. All they can do is resort to smug insults and self-righteous attacks against me when they have nothing else to offer. That isn't going to convince anyone of anything, especially not me.
just sayin wrote:
<quoted text> You seem to have lost sight of the fact that three people are dead!
How so? Because I haven't written some long heartfelt post on how awful this crime is? I didn't think I needed to state the obvious. Last I checked there was nobody who was shouting, cheering or clapping their hands in joy that an innocent family was slaughtered.
just sayin wrote:
<quoted text> If it were your family would you be so quick to question their guilt?
Being that this nightmare scenario has never happened to me, I can't say exactly how I would react. Few can. But if I can step back and consider my approach to life then I can say with at least some confidence that what I wouldn't be quick to do is CONDEMN and decide GUILT before I had the facts together, which the majority of the people in that neck of the woods did(watch the news clips of the shouting lynch mob at the police station when they were brought into custody). They knew nothing, yet had already decided guilt and proper punishment. Here's a question, how would you feel about that if you were the one on trial? Would that be fair? No. Due process is a right we all have.

Unless of course the uninformed masses decide otherwise, huh?

I like to have all my facts straight before deciding guilt or innocence. After that, I want the harshest possible punishment for the offender(s).

just sayin wrote:
<quoted text> If all six didn't pull the trigger, does that mean that they deserve to go free? How can you be certain of anything? The evidence may not place a smoking gun in all six hands, but it doesn't rule out the possibility that everyone was involved in some way.
Exactly. But the burden of proof is on the prosecution, not the defense ("Innocent until proven guilty", a very important American thing that their detractors also seem to have forgotten in this case, but would most readily embrace had it been THEY who were on trial for something. Incredibly hypocritical). There was no proof that Crystal, Karen or Dean were "involved" in murdering or even conspiring to murder. The D.A. pretty much said so himself. That's why the plea bargain was created. Because that was the only way he could take them all down, which is what he wanted.

just sayin wrote:
<quoted text> In the end your logic seems to be just as flawed as that of the prosecution.
I disagree, simply because the prosecution didn't use "logic". They used emotion, exaggerations and straight-up lies and counted on the emotionally-charged and fearful public opinion to swallow it up, which it did.


just sayin wrote:
<quoted text> My problem is that we seem to live in a society that turns offenders into victims.
I agree 100%. I just don't agree that all six were murderers. If I did then I'd want them to burn. Anyone who knows me would tell you that I'm not "light" on crime :-)
Roman

Sherman Oaks, CA

#245 Mar 19, 2015
"Just Sayin", thanks for the thoughtful and intelligent post, by the way. That's a rare thing on these boards as you can see!:-)
Roman

Sherman Oaks, CA

#246 Mar 19, 2015
just sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
My question is why are you so certain that they are innocent? It seems that you have your mind made up.
A fair question. I am certain because I studied the evidence closely for years and everything clearly points in that direction. I don't form opinions until I have studied both sides of a case thoroughly. So yes, my mind is made up until someone can refute the things I have brought up in this debate. So far no one is able to. All they can do is resort to smug insults and self-righteous attacks against me when they have nothing else to offer. That isn't going to convince anyone of anything, especially not me.
just sayin wrote:
<quoted text> You seem to have lost sight of the fact that three people are dead!
How so? Because I haven't written some long heartfelt post on how awful this crime is? I didn't think I needed to state the obvious. Last I checked there was nobody who was shouting, cheering or clapping their hands in joy that an innocent family was slaughtered.
just sayin wrote:
<quoted text> If it were your family would you be so quick to question their guilt?
Being that this nightmare scenario has never happened to me, I can't say exactly how I would react. Few can. But if I can step back and consider my approach to life then I can say with at least some confidence that what I wouldn't be quick to do is CONDEMN and decide GUILT before I had the facts together, which the majority of the people in that neck of the woods did(watch the news clips of the shouting lynch mob at the police station when they were brought into custody). They knew nothing, yet had already decided guilt and proper punishment. Here's a question, how would you feel about that if you were the one on trial? Would that be fair? No. Due process is a right we all have.
Unless of course the uninformed masses decide otherwise, huh?

I like to have all my facts straight before deciding guilt or innocence. After that, I want the harshest possible punishment for the offender(s).
just sayin wrote:
<quoted text> If all six didn't pull the trigger, does that mean that they deserve to go free? How can you be certain of anything? The evidence may not place a smoking gun in all six hands, but it doesn't rule out the possibility that everyone was involved in some way.
Exactly. But the burden of proof is on the prosecution, not the defense ("Innocent until proven guilty", a very important American thing that their detractors also seem to have forgotten in this case, but would most readily embrace had it been THEY who were on trial for something. Incredibly hypocritical). There was no proof that Crystal, Karen or Dean were "involved" in murdering or even conspiring to murder. The D.A. pretty much said so himself. That's why the plea bargain was created. Because that was the only way he could take them all down, which is what he wanted.
just sayin wrote:
<quoted text> In the end your logic seems to be just as flawed as that of the prosecution.
I disagree, simply because the prosecution didn't use "logic". They used emotion, exaggerations and straight-up lies and counted on the emotionally-charged and fearful public opinion to swallow it up, which it did.
just sayin wrote:
<quoted text> My problem is that we seem to live in a society that turns offenders into victims.
I agree 100%. I just don't agree that all six were murderers. If I did then I'd want them to burn. Anyone who knows me would tell you that I'm not "light" on crime :-)

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