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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 148986 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Yes and Amen

Versailles, KY

#118042 Dec 1, 2013
Hope you all had a Great Thanksgiving...
I learned some new math...
2 plates of food equals a 3 hour nap!
In my younger years... I could run 10 miles after
2 plates!

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#118043 Dec 1, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
Given the beliefs that a priest may have, personally I think such a comment may have been well intentioned, rather than malicious.
Anything else, would've been between your uncle and his wife, and absolutely no one else, would it not? Then I would hope for your uncle, that HE considered his WIFE, as men absolutely should (the good ones especially).
As far as anything else, if it smells like BS rotteness, appears like BS rotteness and acts like BS rotteness, chances are pretty damn good-that it just might be, nothing but BS rotteness.
As for moi, I shall try and stick with mine own preference of healthy and wholesome-over the foul and vileness of (BS) rotteness, thank you very much.
Did I claim the comment was malicious in intent? Nope. The theists here prove your sort cannot even comprehend the comment was possibly insulting. So if that is any indication of what the priest thought, it seems he did not think at all. Theists often spew their offensive beliefs with no thought of others. In this case, the widows feelings should have been carefully considered. It is my opinion the priest failed to carefully consider them.

Now did I make any accusations my uncle did not consider what his wife felt? Nope, so again you are speaking to something that has nothing to do with anything relevant.

Funny at how you draw a line at calling someone a liar. As if it is any less insulting than what you did say.
Now just what part of the story did you think was untrue? If you are going to sling accusations, at least specifically identify them.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#118044 Dec 1, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
It is my opinion that I would not make a judgement opinion like that, with out speaking directly with the person it regarded.
Let alone, flap gums ignorantly over such.
lol
If it smells like idiot duhmmy chit, it just might be idiot duhmmy chit...DUHMMY.
I see you again failed to answer a simple question. Why would it matter? Their is no debate here if the funeral should have been Catholic or not. So why are you acting as if their is one?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#118045 Dec 1, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
It is my opinion that I would not make a judgement opinion like that, with out speaking directly with the person it regarded.
Let alone, flap gums ignorantly over such.
lol
If it smells like idiot duhmmy chit, it just might be idiot duhmmy chit...DUHMMY.
Oh, are you now claiming the priest may have asked the widow if he could claim Jesus made here be good to her husband in his time of illness?

Do you even realize what is insulting about the comment? Even if she was a Christian, the comment infers she would not have been caring to her husband if not for someone else. This is an asinine idea. It is all the more asinine if you consider she was not Christian.
Do you need Mohamed to be good to your wife, or anyone for that matter?

At the very least, your comment does acknowledge the priests comment was at least a bit risqué. And their in lies my point. I found it inappropriate. What we cannot know about who approved what does not change my opinion of the comment.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#118046 Dec 1, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
Because all the ones I've ever known, do.
I suppose their are exceptions to every rule.
Now do you only know things by the few people in your small circle of friends? If so, then that explains a lot.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#118047 Dec 1, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
Doesn't matter-it wasn't a REAL christian start with saying such an UGLY thing then-just another hateful heathen, in a world full of many.
(and the Russia thing was many posts ago-as in any further mention would be redundant, as not worth the time of any further discussion )
Depends upon your definition of Christian.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#118048 Dec 1, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
Doesn't matter-it wasn't a REAL christian start with saying such an UGLY thing then-just another hateful heathen, in a world full of many.
(and the Russia thing was many posts ago-as in any further mention would be redundant, as not worth the time of any further discussion )
I am staring to see why you feel religion is harmless.

I have no doubt, many Christians justified killing native Americans due to what the natives believed religiously.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#118049 Dec 1, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
I think it's been more athiets inciting hatred against that with what they don't agree with.
As for America-and my refernces to-This IS still America-no matter how much communism would like to try and drag it down...as in to hell with communism.
How does atheism incite hatred?
And lets say it does, somehow, does that make it ok for religion to incite hate? Your statement implies this.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#118050 Dec 1, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
You are the only one claiming that the priest insulted someone's religion
That someone whom you claim was insulted has never made that claim.
You state that you don't know if she felt insulted.
In essence , you have self proclaimed yourself as the defender of an event that only you find insulting while implying that others should have been offended ,but were not.
Your nonsensical and illogical argument makes no sense at all.
Moreover,what YOU claim to have been an insulting statement was not directed at you.
Your uncle's wife never claimed to have been insulted and neither did anyone else,ONLY YOU felt insulted and it is very evident why you are attempting to create an issue where none exists.
Unbelief will cause that type of emotional stress where it is not warranted
I felt it was insulting. You have still failed to show why it was not an insulting comment. I explained why I felt it was insulting. Thus I feel you have no argument.

And for a bit of clarity, I did not think it was an insult to her religion, I feel it was an insult to her ability to care about her husband without Jesus.
I see you still cannot comprehend what is insulting about the comment. I guess if the bible does not spell it out to you, you cannot know if it is right or wrong. You are blind to reasoning.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#118051 Dec 1, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
You have self proclaimed yourself as a spokesperson for other beliefs " religions" that YOU Do Not represent.
Like you said" You found highly insulting" and no one else did.
How Ironic
I can use my brain to deduce what is moral or not, unlike yourself. I need no holy book to make these determinations. I found this comment as insulting.
I can make judgments. I have no commandments that forbid judging. And again, I am not the only person who attended the wedding who agreed it was insulting. How many times must I say this? Your reading comprehension is poor.
I never said, "no one else did", you lair.
You evidently do not know what 'irony" means either.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#118052 Dec 1, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
It is wrong for you to attempt to create an issue where none exists.
That is Cacafuego.
No one, other than you ,felt insulted by whatever the priest said.
Could well be , you misinterpreted what he said....
Then , you wanna have an intelligent conversation based on your opinion that those who have not claimed to have been insulted , were insulted , according to your standards and not theirs.
What kind of cockamamie nonsense is that?
My cousin felt it was insulting, and I have stated this earlier. Now stop lying and debate the issue. The diversions are getting insane here.

Seems others on this thread agree it was insulting also. Others agree it is not a non issue. If that is your opinion, then why keep talking about it?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#118053 Dec 1, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Yes you do... but
The word 'Christian' means "Christ Follower"!
Christ didn't cotton to lies, killing babies, or any
other ill garbage!
I doubt the Jesus would call everyone who disagreed with him, retarded. So I guess you do not follow that Christ. I guess you are no Christian.
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#118054 Dec 1, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>My cousin felt it was insulting, and I have stated this earlier. Now stop lying and debate the issue. The diversions are getting insane here.
Seems others on this thread agree it was insulting also. Others agree it is not a non issue. If that is your opinion, then why keep talking about it?
Since you and an unnamed cousin felt the priest's comments were insulting , then you and your unnamed cousin need to get an audience with the Priest and lodge your complaints with him.
Possibly , you may want to have your uncle's wife in attendance and she can explain why she has not stated that she was offended.
If she wasn't offended , then you can explain to her the reasons why you believe she should have been.
If she is unable to understand your reasoning , you can quote Q
" I can explain it to you , but ,I can't understand it for you"
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#118055 Dec 1, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I can use my brain to deduce what is moral or not, unlike yourself. I need no holy book to make these determinations. I found this comment as insulting.
I can make judgments. I have no commandments that forbid judging. And again, I am not the only person who attended the wedding who agreed it was insulting. How many times must I say this? Your reading comprehension is poor.
I never said, "no one else did", you lair.
You evidently do not know what 'irony" means either.
Who is this as yet unnamed cousin to whom you are referring? Lodi? or Kraktu?
Whoaaaaaaaa Nelly , say it ain't so....
Lodi and Kraktu are always in agreement with that which does not make sense.
Illogicity is an inherent part of their human nature

Their mumpsimusian attitudes speak for themselves as evidenced by their postings." inane rantings"

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#118056 Dec 1, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>I wouldn't say anything against your trout, but if this was true... Great!
:-)
Nah, I was just having a bit of fun.

I guess for those who prefer to believe in the supernatural, a person talking about a magical trout may just be telling the truth.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#118057 Dec 1, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
See... You lie!
We do not hate atheists, and homosexuals...
We WERE atheists, and homosexuals, the fact is...
We know them as sins now, and we want them to understand it too!
Yet you categorise homosexuals and those who exercise freedom of religion as evil?

That certainly sounds like hate to me.
Yes and Amen wrote:
We want them to REPENT, and come to Heaven...
You may see it as hate, do you see Doctors
as hateful when the tell you not to smoke???
They only want to keep you alive, we want to save something more important!
Save us from what?

From a maniac god who hates his creation so much he built a huge torture chamber to put them in.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Somerset, KY

#118058 Dec 1, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Hahaha...
Whatever you want to believe...
.
Romans
1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the
world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are
made,[even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are
without excuse:
.
"that they are without excuse:"
How does a tree stand through two coal layers..
If they are millions of years apart?
doesn't fit your data... not one bit!
Actually is does... Since trees have been found that date back some 300 million plus years kinda makes that reasonable... And there is chemical evidence that coal and oil are not the results of organics converting but a chemical process that happens to compressed hydrocarbon in the earth forming Oil then flowing during seismic events ... Once flowed the hydrocarbon is converted into coal as the Hydro part of Hydrocarbon (Water molecules) is reduced by natural process... Which while still not fully accepted in some areas the Chemical Signatures of Fossil Fuels versus the signature expected are different and Chemically oil is not a fossil fuel and it's the Oil with a reduced water molecular structure that is today's coal...

So First they are not Millions of years apart and there is a rational evidential explanation... No Magic required...

http://www.scribd.com/doc/84007697/The-Abioti...

http://www.viewzone.com/abioticoilx.html

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/on-energy...

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Somerset, KY

#118059 Dec 1, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Does any of the mean a hill of beans?
Lets look at it!
(1) Yes, The Lord is Lord of all, King of Kings, Ruler of His people, whether a shepherd watching over his flock, or a King His people.... makes no difference!
(2) There are still Hebrew texts of the Pentateuch, and the Torah,
yes the translation to the Greek Septuagint has many variants!
(3) 5700 copies of hand copied manuscripts dating from the first century to the advent of the printing press!
(4) With these manuscripts, we can compare, and have revealed
that there are 40,000 variants in these manuscripts, but...
99% of them are like the use of 'a', where 'an' should be used!
(5) That leaves (1%) error in NON Catholic Bibles!
(6) These errors have been diligently scrutinized, and
fixed (generally), as does it matter 'Love', or 'Charity'?
How many deliberate lies, and misrepresentations are in todays science, and history books???
.
See... I know the Bible is true, as the God of that Bible showed up...
And SAVED ME!
Now... You can BELIEVE it's all Horse pucky....
That is your right!
Have a Merry Christmas :-)
I don't Believe it's Horsey Puckey Doo Doo.... I understand how difficult it is for you to understand being that your mental state requires an element of magic for the world to make sense to you but that a function of self limiting your knowledge base.. If you do not know the basic scientific principles of something then when observed it seems magical... Just like a 1600 years ago it was thought magic or a sign for God if a static discharge shocked your friend...

That's why the term "God of the Gap's" came into being... God does all this stuff until a full understanding of the observation is had then it's .."Well, well ok but God did the stuff between this and that because you can't come up with another explanation." ...

By refusing to educate yourself on what we Actually know and the basic principles that govern the observed sets up the Gaps much wider than those that actually seek knowledge that disagrees with dogma... That not only goes for God based religions but for not God based religions and there are non God based religions within the scientific communities also...

Myself I'm opposed not to Christianity, Islam, Jewish ect faiths... I am opposed to Religion and Religion has nothing to do with what ever "God" is involved whether it be Yahweh , Thor, Flying Unicorns , AGW or a host of other Dogma based religions....

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Somerset, KY

#118060 Dec 1, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>What happens when you only look at evidence that supports your "Beliefs", or "Thinks"????
Higher education... LOL
Satan don't care how he gets you to hell, and 'believing' there is no hell.... comes in liberal higher learning!
"What happens when you only look at evidence that supports your "Beliefs", or "Thinks"????"

You come up with incorrect conclusions... Such as you do when you only concern yourself with that that fits your religious beliefs and refuse to study and research anything that disagrees with your beliefs...

I as you might detect try (and sometimes fail) to gain understanding of the human knowledge base of all subjects I can.. I have actually tried to study biblical dogma over my life along with several other religions be quickly came to understand that for any to hold validity it required me to Believe in Magic... The big red flag is enough to disregard claims made based on such Magic until the point that the How the Magic fits known reality is had...

Now be aware I do not think the narrative of mans ascension from a early hominid to today's modern human is correct... I think archeologists and several other fields are doing the same as You in that they have a Belief in their preconceived views and will not even consider or study any evidence that disagrees with those Beliefs but that does not lead me to resort to Magic to explain it...
how about this

Ransom, KY

#118061 Dec 1, 2013
I got this wild and crazy idea. brace yourselves, it's kinda far fetched, one of those crazy fringe beliefs that only wild eyed radicals have.

how about teaching your kids about the bible at home or some morals while you're at it. just like the people that want their kids to learn sex education outta take the time to teach theirs.

ok, I'm wore out from coming up with something so far out. I gotta rest now.

stop expecting the state or school to raise your kid for you. how about we only have stuff taught in school that can be proven like math and basic science. you can't observe god or evolution with your eyes so lets leave that to college where you pay to learn something that you choose to learn about. then you can learn about god or evolution on your own time.

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