Bible study rules for public schools ...

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 180110 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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#99830 Apr 15, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>In a pig's eye.
Meaning?

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#99831 Apr 15, 2013
what wrote:
<quoted text>i dont stero-type any of u, but i do place all religious beliefs in the same line of respect, they are interesting to read and they are all linked in some way or another because it all dates back to sun worship. i just try to point out that we dont need a God to be good to each other and be good ppl. the evidence for god is zero and i dont need to fear hell to loan a helpin hand out to ppl but for some reason as soon as the ppl i think are actually good ppl find out im an atheist they turn on me in a matter of mins just cuz they are scared of the so called hell that is instilled in them since they were kids. i just think its time for humanity to get rid of all the fairy tales and find peace before we end up in nuclear war cause your god dont like my god kind of stuff that is goin on all over the world now. get some prrof of god or let it go already, cuz for some reason god isnt really help any of us now or there would be some real evidence.
I've already said I don't believe there will ever be proof. But I welcome your opinion. Thank you

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#99832 Apr 15, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>In all cases in which a "prayer was answered" there have been very logical, rational, and often expected reasons for this. Did you know that most patients diagnosed with cancer don't actually have cancer, it's just a lump of fatty cells that congealed or some other inane thing. Doctors want to prevent the death of the patient, usually, and thus err on the side of caution, which is a good thing when they do. So you see, if your god is doing anything, it's staying pretty well hidden, because the non-believers always have the same chance of dying from cancer, always.
No that isn't true: "all cases". I'm sorry but I know of too many cases in which a different outcome would have occurred without divine intervention.

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#99833 Apr 15, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Call it "callings" or "ranks," it is the same thing. You can sugar coat a pine cone, but it's still going to hurt you if you swallow it.
Ranks indicate advancement which is not the case in the LDS church. I have gone from the Young Men's presidency to Elders Quorum counselor to Bishopric to Primary Teacher to Newsletter creator. It's whatever The Lord needs us to do at the time. And sometimes we are called to a calling for someone's sake, like they need to learn from you, or have an example like you, or so you can learn something yourself like a new skill. It really isn't about rank.

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#99834 Apr 15, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>Dim wit ooops du what,

I would suggest, since you are so sensitive, your non-understanding, ignorant, illogical, religie, shiite for brains, etc, etc, self should not read my posts, you will never like them and guess what.....I do it on purpose, sooooooo, religie, probably best if you just ignore ignore my posts and play with the nice people, they are, well, nice and they have shown tolerance for stupidity.

........Lets be truthfull, you're an idiot and it's obvious. Your holyhatebible should be no where near public schools........respect a religie.......not gonna happen........

Remember......

pete and repeat
Did someone just pass gas?
Thought I heard something
Cman

Tampa, FL

#99835 Apr 15, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Meaning?
argh posting on cellphone. A humanitarian with a phd in economics successful business and loving family has far less chance of being elected than a raging alcoholic wife beater who goes to church every sunday

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#99836 Apr 15, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Did someone just pass gas?
Thought I heard something
........Lets be truthful, you're an idiot and it's obvious. Your holyhatebible should be no where near public schools........respect a religie.......not gonna happen........

Remember......

Since: Aug 10

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#99837 Apr 15, 2013
Cman wrote:
<quoted text>argh posting on cellphone. A humanitarian with a phd in economics successful business and loving family has far less chance of being elected than a raging alcoholic wife beater who goes to church every sunday
You lost me on that one. Not sure how it was relevant.
Minnesota, eh?

Since: Aug 10

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#99838 Apr 15, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>........Lets be truthful, you're an idiot and it's obvious. Your holyhatebible should be no where near public schools........respect a religie.......not gonna happen........

Remember......
I see nothing wrong with any religion being an optional elective. You shouldn't either as an American.
You should respect all people, regardless of their beliefs, race, sexual preference, career, etc. if you can't, you are part of the problem, not the solution.
photo shots

United States

#99839 Apr 15, 2013
People are able to snap their pictures at the right moment to capture something truly
captivating and stunning in their photos. On the right.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

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#99840 Apr 16, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Everyone has their faults, even prophets. Same with Jonah. He didn't like Ninevites. You could say he was predjudice against them. God taught him a lesson that he never really did swallow.
One guy got mad at Smith for not spelling his name right in a revelation for his mission call and left the church. Did his bad spelling make him less of a prophet?
Brigham's perceived racism to me seems unacceptable, but at that time it probably sounded pretty normal in America. Sad but true. Maybe that's why no one questioned it then. But since then, every prophet has proclaimed that this tendency was not inspired. Not was it original. Many Christian pastors then thought black skin was the curse of Cain. Maybe this made a lot of sense to him so he ran with it and expounded on it.
We are encouraged to pray about the things our prophet and apostles tell us. We need to get our own confirmation from the Holy Ghost of its truth.
Yes, spelling the name wrong makes him less of a prophet. If he is speaking for God then he should get it right.

This idea that your prophets are fallible leaves you a HUGE back door to get out of sticky situations. You just shrugged off a hundred+ years of institutional racism by claiming that it was just normal. Now, you are absolutely correct in making that claim. However, it renders any supernatural claims of your prophets completely invalid. Otherwise you are doing nothing more than cherry picking the things you feel are special and rationalizing the rest.

Brigham Young felt that God didn't want blacks holding the priesthood, a position that most white adult males in the church surely held. As the most divine human authority alive at the time he seems to have got it wrong. And so did the ones who came after him for a very, very long time. Then, amazingly, the church does a 180 in the aftermath of the Civil Rights movement when PR was pretty bad?

Come on, dude. You don't buy that for a minute do you? If so, you're using faith like a blinder.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

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#99841 Apr 16, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Not in our church. There are no ranks that anyone aspires to in my church. It doesn't work that way. We receive callings that the local leaders pray about and extend the calling. They ask you if you accept it or not. Most of the time it is accepted (maybe 80% of the time). Since we have an unpaid ministry, we all have normal jobs too, so most of the time the callings with more responsibility take more of your free time, but we do it to serve others and our God.
Ton of information about the idea of "unpaid ministry":

http://exmormon.org/d6/drupal/Mormon-Church-M...

Turns out this is not so much the case in all cases. One can have no official salary and still earn a metric ton of financial benefits.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

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#99842 Apr 16, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
This is no threat, nor a wager. We all face some time where a loved one is deathly sick, or gets hurt, etc. This would be the time a believer would pray for a good outcome. In many cases, the prayer is answered, even against bad odds. To that individual, it is a miracle. It won't make the news, but it solidified that person's faith.
Sure. But your post suggested that not believing in miracles would mean you don't get to have a miracle. But since there is *no evidence* that intercessory prayer does anything at all I see no reason for this.

Look, people die every day. Since most people are religious that means people like you, who pray to God, die every day. In fact, statistically, praying people die just as frequently as atheists.

If prayer has not statistical effect and is only backed up by personal testimonies how can you possibly believe in it? Statistics remove bias to the greatest degree possible. And when you rack up more and more studies those statistics tell a tale that is verified by hard facts. Testimonies are not reliable.

Here's a test. Pray to God that you will fly. Then go outside and see if you can fly.

If that's too extreme try something else.

Pray to God that you find a five dollar bill today just lying someplace. Then see if you do.

You almost certainly won't. But try it again tomorrow, and the next day, and the day after that. Keep doing it until you DO find one. Then compare the time it took for the event to happen to the number of times you prayed for it. Tell me if you think it is a miracle.

Why can't reality just be reality? Why do we need to add a layer of magic to make it palatable?

“Question, Explore, Discover”

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#99843 Apr 16, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
In all cases in which a "prayer was answered" there have been very logical, rational, and often expected reasons for this. Did you know that most patients diagnosed with cancer don't actually have cancer, it's just a lump of fatty cells that congealed or some other inane thing. Doctors want to prevent the death of the patient, usually, and thus err on the side of caution, which is a good thing when they do. So you see, if your god is doing anything, it's staying pretty well hidden, because the non-believers always have the same chance of dying from cancer, always.
Yes, precisely true. I find this to be the most infuriating thing to argue about. You get this exact same thing when debating alternative medicine (chiropractic, homeopathy, etc). People seem to put far more stock in their feelings than in evidence.

I think our emotions are vital to our experience. I am moved to tears constantly when I watch movies. I'm a sucker. I love to listen to a song and get teared up.

But I recognize that my feelings are not reliable sources of truth. I don't believe something to be true because it makes me cry.
Wrong again Sparky

Georgetown, KY

#99844 Apr 16, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
Showing how members of the christian cult are weak minded followers they listen to lunatics ranting and then give them huge amounts of money.
So stupid that even when they see their idols living in multi million dollar homes and engaging in perverse sex they still give them money and make excuses for them.
The cult mentality that makes these sheep blindly follow breads more con men who legally deceive stupid people with their promises of a greater return than what they give.
If I promised you a 100% return on what ever money you gave me they would arrest me but a preacher can promise ten times the amount (1000%) and you idiots fall for it.
Man are you stupid
Tisk tisk....
Is their bad people using religion to gain power, n fame?
yes!
It was not an 'Idol' that saved me...
It was God Himself!
I don't 'Blindly' fallow anyone like satan anymore!
Those days are over...
Hoping the same for you!
TruthIs

United States

#99845 Apr 16, 2013
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism isn't a religion. It's a personal relationship with reality.
;)
Isn't it great there are actually people mature enough and logical enough, to realize that all cults, including those who ven·er·a·tive·ly choose the cult of atheism, also have TONS of people that have personal relationships with "reality".

(ven·er·a·tion
[ven-uh-rey-shuhn] Show IPA
noun
.
4.
an expression of this feeling:
ven·er·a·tive·ly-adverb)
Wrong again Sparky

Georgetown, KY

#99846 Apr 16, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
Last week 100,000 innocent children individually prayed that the beatings would stop. Half of them have been beaten to death, while the other half still cry as they pray for the beatings to stop.
Last night 1,000,000 innocent children prayed for food so they will not starve to death. Half of them are too weak from starvation to rise out of bed and will die in a day or two and the other half had nothing to eat this morning, again.
Prayer does nothing, if your god was real and he answered prayers but ignored these innocent children because it is more important that a middle class church going family get a new car or get a more expensive house than fu ck your god
How many of them did you feed?
I'll bet ANY Christian has fed more than you!
Thanks again!
Wrong again Sparky

Georgetown, KY

#99847 Apr 16, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
Oh, and you can say "we can not grasp the mysteries of god" or "who can know gods plan" I say that evil is still evil and if there was a god and that god allowed such evil than he is evil
God gave the world to man...
What did you do with it today?
I'll bet... you only griped about it!
TruthIs

United States

#99848 Apr 16, 2013
Wrong again Sparky wrote:
<quoted text>Tisk tisk....
Is their bad people using religion to gain power, n fame?
yes!
It was not an 'Idol' that saved me...
It was God Himself!
I don't 'Blindly' fallow anyone like satan anymore!
Those days are over...
Hoping the same for you!
It's kind of pathetic to watch the insipid still stuck on a kindergarten level quest of bigotry for bigots, trying to spew via en masse brainwash tacTics of hatefulness and vilenss, Their agendas of stupid, isn't it.

Especially when it's actually people like THAT, that only wish to harm others.

Hope you have a nice day WAS!
Wrong again Sparky

Georgetown, KY

#99849 Apr 16, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't wrongfully accuse me of sodomy and I won't wrongfully accuse you of cunnilingus with your neighbor's dog.
Go away.
Oh!
I'm sorry... you defend it as though you do it!
By your answer... it seems I hit a nerve!

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