Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Courier-Journal

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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I am very proud to be american, to say otherwise would be muslimish, lol.
I love america, I also agree with one of our founding fathers.

"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it."

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<quoted text> and for fun, let's say the Christians are right and you are wrong....on judgment day your sins will be read out loud and then you will be cast into a lake of fire to burn for all eternity...then you will believe. You will remember these and other conversations you have had denouncing Gods existence.
You will not adapt to the pain. The sering will not ease. The physical gnashing of your skin by those you have manipulated will not result in old skin into new. How scarry. You have learned enough that when the end of the world comes you will recognize and there won't be anything you can do.
Resorting to threats and scare tactics is proof that the god of your cult does not exist

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<quoted text>You will die in your ignorance. Yes, there is a God. You cannot breathe without Him.
I am a Satanic Priest and I breath just fine.
If you really believed your crap than why do you cling to life and get upset when some one dies, shouldn't you rejoice instead?
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<quoted text>I am a Satanic Priest and I breath just fine.
If you really believed your crap than why do you cling to life and get upset when some one dies, shouldn't you rejoice instead?
You still MISS the person... Lol
Rejoice or not

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"Lighthouses are more helpful then churches."

This quote by a founding father is even more true in this day and age when lighthouses are rarely used.

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<quoted text>Resorting to threats and scare tactics is proof that the god of your cult does not exist
Yep, we non-believers would run amuck without fear of punishment and hope of reward after we die.
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id rahter be in hell than heaven with all the so called rightous sinners
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Interesting fact of the day-

The new Pope has only one lung.

Bless his heart.
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Yiago wrote:
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According to both Calvin and Luther your actions don't really mean that much. You basically have no control at all, otherwise you elevate yourself closer to being like God. Rather, you are utterly depraived and utterly in his control.
They do say that your actions can only reflect the grace you may or may not be given but it surely does not influence it.
Also, let's pretend I rape a child. Let's say I'm possessed with this intense lust for children. So I do it. Then, racked with guilt and repentance, I pray and find salvation. Then I fall away and rape again. Then I come back to Christ.
Rinse and repeat.
At what point does Jesus say enough is enough? Based on my understanding of Christianity and what I've been taught in various churches Jesus will NEVER say that. So in theory I could commit the most horrible crimes imaginable and still end up in Heaven.
That is why I reject any argument that religion is a required element of morality. It clearly does not prevent bad behavior. And since I know for a fact you can be moral without religion I have no particular reason to think religion has anything to do with morality at all.
Consider that in my example a repeating child rapist can still end up in heaven, no matter how many lives he shatters. But if he ever rejects God then he ends up in Hell.
That tells me something important about the nature of God: he's kind of an a**hole. Who wants to devote his life to an a**hole?
You show no scriptures to support your suposition only faulty religious beliefs.
You could use a serious Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses to clear away all the nonsense you THINK the Bible teaches. You would be surprised at what the TRUTH can do for you, John 8:31,32 And so Jesus went on to say to the Jews that had believed him:“If YOU remain in my word, YOU are really my disciples, 32 and YOU will know the truth, and the truth will set YOU free
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weel now thats hunky dorey.... only in print is the
untruth on religion the scientist have proven evolution is a fcat. when u so call believers wake up u will be in the dark

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You show no scriptures to support your suposition only faulty religious beliefs.
You could use a serious Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses to clear away all the nonsense you THINK the Bible teaches. You would be surprised at what the TRUTH can do for you, John 8:31,32 And so Jesus went on to say to the Jews that had believed him:“If YOU remain in my word, YOU are really my disciples, 32 and YOU will know the truth, and the truth will set YOU free
LOL
The thought of a JW clearing anything up is hilarious to me. You're operating under the premise that the Bible is something that could be interpreted correctly to begin with.
What makes you so sure that your magic book is the right answer and all the other magic books out there are wrong?

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Known Fact wrote:
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You show no scriptures to support your suposition only faulty religious beliefs.
You could use a serious Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses to clear away all the nonsense you THINK the Bible teaches. You would be surprised at what the TRUTH can do for you, John 8:31,32 And so Jesus went on to say to the Jews that had believed him:“If YOU remain in my word, YOU are really my disciples, 32 and YOU will know the truth, and the truth will set YOU free
The truth WOULD set you free if you would stop quoting scripture as if it were proof of the veracity of gospel. Your stance is akin to saying a dog is a tree and then puffing out your chest when it says, "Bark!"
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magic being the key word
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<quoted text>I am a Satanic Priest and I breath just fine.
If you really believed your crap than why do you cling to life and get upset when some one dies, shouldn't you rejoice instead?
yes, you are to morn a birth and rejoice in death.

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OK now this is too funny.
In the supermarket a middle aged woman looked at my Baphomet and called 911 to report a devil worshiper. She thought that since I do not go to her church that I should be arrested.
I could not hear what the 911 operator said but the woman said "no, he is just laughing at me"
I was laughing, than I said "BOO" and went about my shopping.

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Intelligence and gullibility are neither mutually dependent nor mutually exclusive. However, it is a telling point that those who we now regard as the greatest minds in history are not renowned for sitting in the back of the church - nor in the front of one.
What is a higher power? Only a fool does not recognize that there are powers greater than ourselves. Try to climb Mount Everest solo, complete Einstein's Unified Field Theory, don't pay the IRS, lick a light socket, argue with your mother in law.... Have faith in a higher power? Sure, one can have faith that gravity will not fail, that a vehicle will follow laws of motion, that the Earth will spin and the sun will rise. Have faith in a Higher Power? Seriously? You think that putting an omniscient, omnipotent, para-eternal personality in the straight jacket of a human written book is in any way or possibility convincing?
I contend that in the pursuit of becoming a power greater than ourselves, humans take the easiest and shortest route. Call it theology, mythology, spiritualism, mysticism, whatever - we create Gods in our own image. Perhaps I do not accept the fantasies because I don't believe in circumventing reality to reach a desired conclusion, or maybe it's just because (I'll be the first to admit that) I've never been a good liar.
You missed my point. I'm not trying to convince you there is a God. I'm just saying you can't call people less intelligent just because they believe in God.
I've already told you that there is no proof that God exists, nor is there proof that He doesn't. We should all agree with that. Faith does not equal intelligence, just like lack of faith does not equal intelligence.

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Yiago wrote:
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According to both Calvin and Luther your actions don't really mean that much. You basically have no control at all, otherwise you elevate yourself closer to being like God. Rather, you are utterly depraived and utterly in his control.
They do say that your actions can only reflect the grace you may or may not be given but it surely does not influence it.
Also, let's pretend I rape a child. Let's say I'm possessed with this intense lust for children. So I do it. Then, racked with guilt and repentance, I pray and find salvation. Then I fall away and rape again. Then I come back to Christ.
Rinse and repeat.
At what point does Jesus say enough is enough? Based on my understanding of Christianity and what I've been taught in various churches Jesus will NEVER say that. So in theory I could commit the most horrible crimes imaginable and still end up in Heaven.
That is why I reject any argument that religion is a required element of morality. It clearly does not prevent bad behavior. And since I know for a fact you can be moral without religion I have no particular reason to think religion has anything to do with morality at all.
Consider that in my example a repeating child rapist can still end up in heaven, no matter how many lives he shatters. But if he ever rejects God then he ends up in Hell.
That tells me something important about the nature of God: he's kind of an a**hole. Who wants to devote his life to an a**hole?
If you repeat the crime, then repentance never happened, as I described before.

I don't subscribe to a religion that believes works are not important. The scriptures say faith without works is dead. Works alone do not provide salvation, but faith without works means there never was really faith.

I hope this helps you understand my stance.
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this would be a good thing.when i went to school we had a lady come once a week, she didnt teach religion, she told bible stories,it was a good break,she told the stories with pictures, also the first thing in the morning, we sang songs said the pledge for about 15 minutes.it set the tone for the day,as a child grows into adult hood,they will adopt their own beliefs,this is a stepping stone. they will believe in something, why not let them start with the goods things, if they dont hear good things when they are small, they wont know they have a choice.as i got older and heard different things,i choose what was to me the best,our children need a good positive in their lives.for some it will be the only time they will hear the name god, jesus, lord.at least they will have a choice.
What if instead of teaching about the Christian God they taught about the Muslim God, or Buddah, or whatever? Would you want that? What if they taught only about the Catholic God or the Baptist God? Would you want that? If you send your child to school to learn to read, write, add, etc. you should not have to worry about someone choosing their religion, that is not the responsibility nor the place of the public school. You teach that to your child at home. If you want them to learn in a religous setting then you send them to a private religous school. You don't force your beliefs on other children, what you may think is good and right may not be good and right to others, so keep it out of the school.
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<quoted text> yes, you are to morn a birth and rejoice in death.
I don't believe that and I don't believe that God teaches that. I believe life is a gift, the earth is a gift, it is not something to mourn. We mourn losing our loved ones because we won't get to see them anymore. I think you can twist the Bible to make it say whatever you want it to say. God is is the trees, the sky, the sunrise, sunset, mountains, oceans, seasons. So don't quote the Bible to me and think that is the proof, it is not. You may not be understanding it correctly, or it may have not been translated correctly by King James.
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Satanic Priest wrote:
OK now this is too funny.
In the supermarket a middle aged woman looked at my Baphomet and called 911 to report a devil worshiper. She thought that since I do not go to her church that I should be arrested.
I could not hear what the 911 operator said but the woman said "no, he is just laughing at me"
I was laughing, than I said "BOO" and went about my shopping.
Why do you worship evil? YOu are going to burn in hell.

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