Bible study rules for public schools ...

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 156592 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#93953 Jan 12, 2013
Spaceship earth_ss wrote:
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The religies want to burn our history books and just have the KJV of the bible use in a theocratic america, similar to Islam countries. Having religious civil war in this country is a goal of the tea party, I see why lot of mormons oppose Mitt Romney an voted democratic just like other religies did. So now I know what religion YAA/YOLU belongs to "chrislam".
Hi SS, I like that "chrislam" thing, I will use it often, if you don't mind.
Spaceship earth_ss

El Dorado Hills, CA

#93955 Jan 12, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
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Hi SS, I like that "chrislam" thing, I will use it often, if you don't mind.
NP, I borrowed the term myself.
Spaceship earth_ss

El Dorado Hills, CA

#93956 Jan 12, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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I don't disagree with you.... It is a Idiotic idea to allow a publicly funded school system to in any way teach religious ideology of any religion... A instructional course on All Religions as how they shaped history and the human condition is another story...
BUT... All I was alluding to was that the Constitution does not make any mention of Separation of Church and State.... I was specific to the poster that stated that the Constitution Speaks of such, It does Not... It was an extra Constitutional construct based on Interpretation of the 1st Amendment by the courts much later...
Makes sense, thanks for the reply, Q

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#93957 Jan 12, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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It says...
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Nothing More... Nothing Less... At no point does it speak of Separation of Church and State... That is an Extra Constitutional concept that was written of derived from a letter written by President Thomas Jefferson (A Single Congressman) in 1802....
The Constitution does not use the words, but in order for every one to have freedom of religion there can be no one church having authority, hence a separation of state powers from the church (remember that in England the "church" had law making powers) Also, in any public space no one religion may be given preference over another or any form of authority.
If the christian cult was allowed to teach the influence of religion in public schools they would start teaching the bible as fact and argue that the laws give them the right to do so.(For some reason the christian cult feels they are above every one else and have rights that others do not)

“Statism is slavery”

Since: Jan 13

Somerset, KY

#93958 Jan 12, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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No It Doesn't speak of Separation of Church and State ... The Words do not exist in the document... That was a assumption applied to the verbiage.. It was the Opinion of a single congressman that others later came to agree with.. For many years after the document was signed and ratified many schools and religious institutions were paid for by public funding... The Concept of Separation of Church and State is Extra Constitutional and a construct applied by the courts...
I've given facts, you haven't. If you want to be denial, fine. But I won't argue with someone who can't even cite facts. Thank you.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#93959 Jan 12, 2013
KennyKelly3 wrote:
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I've given facts, you haven't. If you want to be denial, fine. But I won't argue with someone who can't even cite facts. Thank you.
Your Welcome... You of course have not stated Facts in the least.. Because there are No Facts that the Constitution mentions Separation of Church and State... That verbiage was not alluded to until 1802 in a letter to the Baptists from Danbury, Connecticut.... Some 11 years after the Bill of Rights was Ratified... Sorry if you think because someone takes a writing to mean something it changes the actual words written, it does not... So, Facts are ... At No Time does the Constitution of the United States nor the later added Bill of Rights mention the Separation of Church and State...
Jimmy Two Shoes

Belford, NJ

#93960 Jan 12, 2013
Well, in light of the face that politically correct secularism has fallen flat on its face, actually creating a generation of angry, selfish, drones that, if able to take the helm of this country someday, will likely reduce us to a third world country; the Bible might be the only thing that could right the ship.
Big Truck

Somerset, KY

#93961 Jan 12, 2013
Fairy tales are for entertainment. Teach facts to kids if you want them to learn...

“TELLING IT LIKE IT IS”

Since: Apr 09

FARTSBURG

#93962 Jan 12, 2013
Jimmy Two Shoes wrote:
Well, in light of the face that politically correct secularism has fallen flat on its face, actually creating a generation of angry, selfish, drones that, if able to take the helm of this country someday, will likely reduce us to a third world country; the Bible might be the only thing that could right the ship.
I think we got some turd world posters here already. Some of these folks ain't right in the head. Witches in trees, spaceship dudes, poots in suits, man, they couldn't lead a duck to water.

“TELLING IT LIKE IT IS”

Since: Apr 09

FARTSBURG

#93963 Jan 12, 2013
Big Truck wrote:
Fairy tales are for entertainment. Teach facts to kids if you want them to learn...
I think most of them are fairy's too. I think the big bad wolf was a dork and the old woman that lived in a shoe was a ho.

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#93964 Jan 12, 2013
Jimmy Two Shoes wrote:
Well, in light of the face that politically correct secularism has fallen flat on its face, actually creating a generation of angry, selfish, drones that, if able to take the helm of this country someday, will likely reduce us to a third world country; the Bible might be the only thing that could right the ship.
When the bible, and the church was in power we call that time period the dark ages because human progress went backwards.
At least now we do not tell children the world is flat

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#93965 Jan 12, 2013
Jimmy Two Shoes wrote:
Well, in light of the face that politically correct secularism has fallen flat on its face, actually creating a generation of angry, selfish, drones that, if able to take the helm of this country someday, will likely reduce us to a third world country; the Bible might be the only thing that could right the ship.
Please tell me how secularism has fallen flat? By sending an exploration vehicle to mars? By great leaps in medical science?
You make a false statement to support an invalid argument
:)

Evansville, IN

#93967 Jan 12, 2013
Agree

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#93968 Jan 12, 2013
The earth is not flat
Good

Hyden, KY

#93969 Jan 12, 2013
Good idea

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#93970 Jan 12, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
The earth is not flat
Not the whole thing but in some places it is....
Sooner

Hyden, KY

#93971 Jan 12, 2013
The sooner the better

“TELLING IT LIKE IT IS”

Since: Apr 09

FARTSBURG

#93973 Jan 12, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
The earth is not flat
Oh yes the earth is flat Satan Daddy. Ain't you ever heard of the four corners of the earth? Man, that's worse than pie R square. Some crazy folks can't get nothin right. Looks like you got a new monkeyear. Is that a Prolly Parrot settin on your table? Cool man cool. Do you allow fartin in your Satan church?

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#93979 Jan 12, 2013
Willfulignorancepraktise wrote:
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Overheard in the pwetend cwassroom uf...
"Naunt anh...no way...yo' a 'lying...you just warntin to do dat dar inDUHawkreenashun stuff...we nose dat cuz we is SMERT, we is as SMERT as yew Q"....
Danbury Cattails in the corner pocket lol.
Said the smartest person in Somerset

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#93982 Jan 12, 2013
“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”(Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.

2) All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

3) Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

3b) "All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)

3c) "Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)

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