Tommie Jo for Drug Court Judge
wondering

Macon, GA

#164 Mar 26, 2011
does she like saying shit for brains or something? B/c someone on anther topic said the same thing.
promise

Georgetown, KY

#165 Mar 26, 2011
Josten wrote:
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I disagree with the statement that drug dealers take the food off someone's table, clothes...etc. While drug dealing is a terrible thing to do, they aren't taking those things off the table anymore than say wal-mart, or any other kind of business. Granted its a terrible business and terrible product, but it is the buyer who is making the choice to give up those things. When I go to wal-mart and check out, they never ask "will you still have enough money for food if you buy this dvd"? Look how many people are addicted to gambling. Gambling is well known for being so addicting that people go without food and necessities. That doesn't make it the casino's fault. The user needs to grow up and say, "hey, my kids don't have food on the table, its time to get help for my problem". It's hard, but there are too many people out there who have recovered from drug addiction and live completely different lives to say they can't do it.
Besides even without "dealers", users would find a way to get drugs, whether it be by stealing medication from family, or breaking into homes, robbing pharmacies (which happens enough in this area to back me up on this), or doctor shopping. You may not think doctor shopping is that big of a deal, but I know if I've got my kids at the ER for a real problem, I don't want them to have to wait and suffer because someone else has the doctor tied up just trying to get some pain meds...
Just to be clear again though, I don't uphold a drug dealer's lifestyle, but more than anything I can't stand users, and I thoroughly detest it when people put the blame that should fall to a user on a dealer or anyone else...
You couldnt break into enough houses and rob enough pharmacies to get the drugs that tommy joe and others like her sell. gvood try. but it never works. how is tommy doing this weekend
Cant Resist

Ransom, KY

#166 Mar 26, 2011
WOOHOO wrote:
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ok shit for brains..put your thinking cap on for a minute..I was not making reference to IP addresses, how about geography..because she is from "Virgie"..and that would be where most of her "defenders" are.., i.e. "attorneys" (insert sarcasm)..concerning capitalization, this is not a formal letter, therefore I did not feel the need to capitalize..anything else you would like explained?
What is a formal letter. You idiot. Anytime you write, type a proper noun you capitalize it. Guess you didn't learn much in school now did you. So you assume,(idiot again) that anyone who post to this thread is from Virgie (LOL). You are dead wrong! I bet you are a joy to live with an be around. You know most everything, and what you don't know, you assume. We are waiting for that name to be posted. Should we ASSUME YOU DON'T HAVE THE BALLS TO DO IT.
ToFunny

Clay City, KY

#167 Mar 28, 2011
NO not Della Anderson she said to me in another thread that she would never get on here and say anything bad about anyone. She would not judge because she is a women of the church (christian). That she has never got on here and said any thing bad to anyone. So did she lie and judge? That's not very christian like to me. In the eyes of the lord one sin is just as bad as another. You may have your smarta!! comments to come back at me with but before you do just remember I never claimed to be perfect or try to deny things I've posted on here.
Josten

Chesterfield, MO

#168 Mar 29, 2011
promise wrote:
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You couldnt break into enough houses and rob enough pharmacies to get the drugs that tommy joe and others like her sell. gvood try. but it never works. how is tommy doing this weekend
That's not really the point that I'm making. I don't want to see drug dealers walk free in the least. And my post was actually saying that if she sold the drugs she needs to be in jail. Just not blamed for anyone's death, or lack of necessities because they spent their money on drugs, as that was the user's choice.

But honestly, this is kinda off topic, but I don't believe that all drug dealers should be locked up all at once (not that that would be possible, just hypothetically speaking here) at least not without having some super power way of getting rid of all users at the same time. That would sadly screw up a balance that needs to be there while there are users with such bad addictions... Just think, if all the users found themselves without a dealer, they would have to declare marshal law, and anyone with any kind of medical condition, and especially the elderly would become target number one, because they'd have medication for their legitimate conditions, and that would put them straight in the sights of junkies who can't get their "gold" elsewhere....

Just food for thought.

Oh, and as I said ealier, I don't have a clue how Tommy Joe is doing, the last time I saw her was when I got a hair cut, roughly 3 years ago...
no clue

Thelma, KY

#169 Mar 29, 2011
Once again, you clearly do not understand addiction. There is a big difference between an addict and a drug dealer. You cannot justify drug dealing no matter how you try to spin it.
Josten

Chesterfield, MO

#170 Mar 29, 2011
no clue wrote:
Once again, you clearly do not understand addiction. There is a big difference between an addict and a drug dealer. You cannot justify drug dealing no matter how you try to spin it.
Well, I can see someone is in the mood for starting an argument. Look, I'm sorry if I offended you somehow in my post. Can't really say that I can see how I did, but, if I did then I apologize. I'm not saying you don't have a clue about anything, as you obviously feel I don't. But as I've already stated, I've had to deal with addiction inside my own family. In addition to this, majoring in psychology, I've been quite familiarized with addiction in ways other than personal experience as well. I'm not defending drug dealers in the least, I've stated that in every post I've written, go look. All I have said is that users suffering from addiction are still responsible for their actions. Just because they are addicted doesn't mean its less wrong to continue, as its no less illegal. It most certainly means its harder to walk away from, but each individual user still has to make the choice of whether to seek help. Until they make that choice, then they are the ones who make the choice to continue endangering their lives and their well being. They are making the choice to continue living a life of crime. Same as the drug dealer. Dealers are living a life of crime as well, and I feel they should stop that as well, or be arrested. The only thing I've ever stated is that the user is responsible for his or her own death or lack of food/shelter/clothing whatever. Here is the thing, a user knows what they're doing, they know its wrong, they know they should stop, otherwise, they wouldn't be scared to death of the police... They are also familiar with the dangers, but they continue to choose to take those risks. The ONLY thing a dealer should be exempt from is the guilt or responsibility of another's death or lack of essentials because of their own choices. This is the only point I've ever made, not that dealing drugs is justifiable. The last part of my last post was just food for thought, hypothetical situation, I think there would be great dangers with eliminating drug dealers all together without eliminating users at the same time. Its just my opinion that the crime rate (violence and robbery) would rise in that situation. Just an idea that I would see if anyone else could see the same issue with that HYPOTHETICAL situation.

Honestly, it sounds to me if you have someone in your own family who is battling with addiction, or you have lost someone who was battling with addiction. It sounds as if you are holding the dealer who sold or is selling that person drugs solely responsible. Let me give you some friendly advice, if this is the case, take some of the responsibility off the dealer and place it on your loved one. The message you seem to be sending is that it's not your loved one's fault that they do drugs, because they're addicted, rather the dealers fault because they opened the door when your loved one intentionally made the trip there and gave them the product your loved one was seeking in exchange for money or whatever. If you continue this message your loved one has no reason, or hope for change, they don't think its their fault and are powerless to change. If you are sending this message, then honestly, if that person dies, I would be more likely to hold you partially responsible for their death as you didn't make that person see they could change, and that it was within their own power to choose what life they will live.
no clue

Thelma, KY

#171 Mar 29, 2011
Josten wrote:
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Well, I can see someone is in the mood for starting an argument. Look, I'm sorry if I offended you somehow in my post. Can't really say that I can see how I did, but, if I did then I apologize. I'm not saying you don't have a clue about anything, as you obviously feel I don't. But as I've already stated, I've had to deal with addiction inside my own family. In addition to this, majoring in psychology, I've been quite familiarized with addiction in ways other than personal experience as well. I'm not defending drug dealers in the least, I've stated that in every post I've written, go look. All I have said is that users suffering from addiction are still responsible for their actions. Just because they are addicted doesn't mean its less wrong to continue, as its no less illegal. It most certainly means its harder to walk away from, but each individual user still has to make the choice of whether to seek help. Until they make that choice, then they are the ones who make the choice to continue endangering their lives and their well being. They are making the choice to continue living a life of crime. Same as the drug dealer. Dealers are living a life of crime as well, and I feel they should stop that as well, or be arrested. The only thing I've ever stated is that the user is responsible for his or her own death or lack of food/shelter/clothing whatever. Here is the thing, a user knows what they're doing, they know its wrong, they know they should stop, otherwise, they wouldn't be scared to death of the police... They are also familiar with the dangers, but they continue to choose to take those risks. The ONLY thing a dealer should be exempt from is the guilt or responsibility of another's death or lack of essentials because of their own choices. This is the only point I've ever made, not that dealing drugs is justifiable. The last part of my last post was just food for thought, hypothetical situation, I think there would be great dangers with eliminating drug dealers all together without eliminating users at the same time. Its just my opinion that the crime rate (violence and robbery) would rise in that situation. Just an idea that I would see if anyone else could see the same issue with that HYPOTHETICAL situation.
Honestly, it sounds to me if you have someone in your own family who is battling with addiction, or you have lost someone who was battling with addiction. It sounds as if you are holding the dealer who sold or is selling that person drugs solely responsible. Let me give you some friendly advice, if this is the case, take some of the responsibility off the dealer and place it on your loved one. The message you seem to be sending is that it's not your loved one's fault that they do drugs, because they're addicted, rather the dealers fault because they opened the door when your loved one intentionally made the trip there and gave them the product your loved one was seeking in exchange for money or whatever. If you continue this message your loved one has no reason, or hope for change, they don't think its their fault and are powerless to change. If you are sending this message, then honestly, if that person dies, I would be more likely to hold you partially responsible for their death as you didn't make that person see they could change, and that it was within their own power to choose what life they will live.
You are wrong again. I do believe that those that use drugs do have responsibility; but I also understand the disease process that goes along with addiction. Dealing is simply from greed. Being sick is not a crime; but drug dealing is a crime.
Josten

Pikeville, KY

#172 Mar 29, 2011
Hey check this out. Drug dealers are bad... They should serve time in jail. I don't care if they kill drug dealers, thats not what I'm getting at. I'm just saying add all due blame to drug users... All I'm saying, as much as I dislike dealers and disagree with their lifestyle I want the user to inherit all the blame they deserve. Thats it. No defense at all to dealers, but users deserve the consequences of their actions, thats not the fault of a dealer.

If you sell me a copy of the Anarchist cookbook, can you get in trouble? YES. Why? Because you own and traffic an illegal item. But, if I use that book to make a bomb and kill everyone in America, does my reign of terror mean you killed all those people? Negative. All you did was provide me with illegal stuff for a few bucks. I'd be the psyco who killed everyone... Get what I'm saying? lol.
harrison

Macon, GA

#173 Mar 29, 2011
People let it go. You would have to walk a mile in this Tommie Jo's persons shoes to really be able to sit back behind a computer and argue back n forth. There is only judge in our lifetime. Rest assure, it's NOT ANY of you guys.
harrison

Macon, GA

#174 Mar 29, 2011
I meant rest assured! Better make a correction or someone will b!tch about that too.
Scriptur Quoting Dealers

Richmond, KY

#175 Apr 12, 2011
harrison wrote:
People let it go. You would have to walk a mile in this Tommie Jo's persons shoes to really be able to sit back behind a computer and argue back n forth. There is only judge in our lifetime. Rest assure, it's NOT ANY of you guys.
Oh yeah, we've heard it all before.
She is a church going person with a kind heart.
She would do anything to help someone in need.
She is a pillar of the community.
She simply made a mistake.
Judge not , lest you be judged accordingly.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
You shouldn't throw stones when you live in a glass house.
It isn't her fault , it is the addicts.
Why don't they arrest McDonalds for selling Big Macs to fat people?

Yadda yaddah yaddah....Blah blah blah!!!!!
Please give it a break people.
I posted some of these exact remarks (merely to prove a point) on the Vornelle Tackett Forum in his defense and people thought that I was some kind of idiot.

Could one of you two Tommie Jo supporters please explain the difference to me?
Back to being holy

Middlesboro, KY

#176 Sep 3, 2014
Court date soon. Need prayers
huh

Thelma, KY

#177 Sep 3, 2014
Back to being holy wrote:
Court date soon. Need prayers
For what? Getting caught selling drugs again?
thinker

Middlesboro, KY

#178 Sep 5, 2014
While none of us have a right to judge anyone, we still do. We may only do it to ourselves, but we do it. Human nature.

We have different kinds of drug dealers. Some (I'm my judgemental opinion,lol) are worse than others.

Some drug dealers are simply addicts. They get into selling to support their habit. And as more research is being done, we are finding out that a LOT of addicts are pretty much born that way. Not all, but a lot. These people are destined to become drug dealers. Some are born into families where addiction, poverty,and drug dealing is a desperate struggle every day.

Then you have some drug dealers that are just trying to pay their bills. A 60 year old grandma finds she can sell her pain meds for big bucks. Her electric bill is due, and Cody wants a pony so Granny IS gonna get that money.

Last, we have the REAL drug dealers. These people have jobs/education/social structure to be a normal, productive member of society. They aren't addicts, They aren't crack babies born in the ghetto. They aren't white trash with daddy in prison and mama cooking meth. They are your nice, normal, average people. UNTIL. UNTIL they see how easy that drug dealing money is. They see fancy cars, diamond rings, vacations, all those things that they would normally have to work hard for. They sell drugs for 1 reason only ...GREED.

This is how I judge.
court

Thelma, KY

#179 Sep 5, 2014
thinker wrote:
While none of us have a right to judge anyone, we still do. We may only do it to ourselves, but we do it. Human nature.
We have different kinds of drug dealers. Some (I'm my judgemental opinion,lol) are worse than others.
Some drug dealers are simply addicts. They get into selling to support their habit. And as more research is being done, we are finding out that a LOT of addicts are pretty much born that way. Not all, but a lot. These people are destined to become drug dealers. Some are born into families where addiction, poverty,and drug dealing is a desperate struggle every day.
Then you have some drug dealers that are just trying to pay their bills. A 60 year old grandma finds she can sell her pain meds for big bucks. Her electric bill is due, and Cody wants a pony so Granny IS gonna get that money.
Last, we have the REAL drug dealers. These people have jobs/education/social structure to be a normal, productive member of society. They aren't addicts, They aren't crack babies born in the ghetto. They aren't white trash with daddy in prison and mama cooking meth. They are your nice, normal, average people. UNTIL. UNTIL they see how easy that drug dealing money is. They see fancy cars, diamond rings, vacations, all those things that they would normally have to work hard for. They sell drugs for 1 reason only ...GREED.
This is how I judge.
I guess the court of law will be the final judge and determine appropriate treatment or punishment.
Roma

United States

#180 Sep 8, 2014
court wrote:
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I guess the court of law will be the final judge and determine appropriate treatment or punishment.
I just have one question how can kids get busted for dealing heroine and just get a slap on the wrist?? I mean one of those kids got probation and has already had a DUI since that sentence. Can you tell me how it is fair that someone works everyday and tries but they want to put he back in jail over petty stuff ( not drugs) but heroine dealers can go free. Please explain
court

Thelma, KY

#181 Sep 8, 2014
Roma wrote:
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I just have one question how can kids get busted for dealing heroine and just get a slap on the wrist?? I mean one of those kids got probation and has already had a DUI since that sentence. Can you tell me how it is fair that someone works everyday and tries but they want to put he back in jail over petty stuff ( not drugs) but heroine dealers can go free. Please explain
Good question. Guess it depends upon who you are and who you know in this small town. One of the young ladies got a year in prison.
Court date 9-17

Middlesboro, KY

#182 Sep 18, 2014
Should have used her mugshot when she posted her photo at the court house. At least she didn't have swollen eyes from all the crocodile tears. Why cry when there is nothing to cry about?
Court date 9-22-14

Elkhorn City, KY

#183 Sep 19, 2014
Got to enjoy the weekend another court date scheduled. I may even put a wig on and go to Black Gold.

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