Dr Hager suboxone clinic

Dr Hager suboxone clinic

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Curious

Anderson, SC

#1 Sep 16, 2009
Disreguard that other one i forgot to put the appropriate subject title.

I am thinking of enrolling myself into this clinic. tired of a few things and how they been going. want to know a little bit about them. I know the basics monthly fee and all but their is a 3 page waiting list at this time. is it worth the wait?
Jeff

Ransom, KY

#3 Sep 25, 2009
Dude, it's worth the wait.
hopefully

Thelma, KY

#4 Sep 25, 2009
There are other clinics available too if you don't want to have to wait for a spot. You can go to www.addictionsurvivors.org and sign up on a physician/patient match list and maybe find a doctor sooner. It has a list of the doctors that treat with suboxone and there are always new physicians signing up. There are also some physicians who are not on the list yet, but taking patients. I think that there is a physicina's office in the Betsy Layne area that is now taking patients, but may not be on the list yet. The physician's name is Dr. William Webb.

Congragulations on making the first step to get your life back in order. You will be glad that you did this.
hopefully

Thelma, KY

#5 Sep 25, 2009
link to the physician/patient matching system:

https://www.naabt.org/patient_doctor/patient_...
Jazzy

Ransom, KY

#6 Sep 25, 2009
Curious wrote:
Disreguard that other one i forgot to put the appropriate subject title.
I am thinking of enrolling myself into this clinic. tired of a few things and how they been going. want to know a little bit about them. I know the basics monthly fee and all but their is a 3 page waiting list at this time. is it worth the wait?
Sometimes you have to be persistent in order to get what you want. If you are persistent in communicating your need to get help, most clinics will do their best to help you.
I would call them again and ask to speak to a staff member who works directly with that program.
Jeff

Ransom, KY

#7 Sep 25, 2009
dr hager has helped me through my problems when i thought i had no chance he is a great dr and he atually listens to me hes cheaper than most of the other drs i tried to go to i recommend him.
doodle do

Harold, KY

#8 Sep 26, 2009
all you all are doing is trading one addiction for another how long will it take you all to get off this new found fix any longer than 6 months seems to tell me its just another addiction thats gonna cast you plenty so have some will power an help your selfves get off the crab you been taken
Jazzy

Ransom, KY

#9 Sep 26, 2009
doodle do wrote:
all you all are doing is trading one addiction for another how long will it take you all to get off this new found fix any longer than 6 months seems to tell me its just another addiction thats gonna cast you plenty so have some will power an help your selfves get off the crab you been taken
Either you are one of the clueless judges in the state of Kentucky or else you truly are an idiot. I suggest you research the topic before you open your mouth again. If you knew anything about the drug you would know it is impossible to get high off of suboxone unless you really don't have a drug problem in the first place.
hope

Thelma, KY

#10 Sep 26, 2009
Jazzy, thank you.
doodle do

Harold, KY

#11 Sep 26, 2009
jassy if you dont have a problem then why holla for suboxone sounds wacky if you ask me
Jazzy

Ransom, KY

#12 Sep 26, 2009
doodle do wrote:
jassy if you dont have a problem then why holla for suboxone sounds wacky if you ask me
If you are not addicted to opioids, then you probably can get high on suboxone to a limited extent. If you are addicted to amphetamines, barbituates, or benzodiazapines, suboxone will NOT help you. It may actually harm you especially if you try to mix it with any of these drugs. If you are addicted to opioids, which is the biggest problem in this country (oxycontin), then you CANNOT get high from suboxone. It would take me a lifetime to explain the reasons why you cannot, but I will provide a link to you if you want to read it for yourself.
http://abuse-recovery.suite101.com/article.cf...
kgood

Anderson, SC

#13 Sep 26, 2009
dr.hager is my uncle. as well as a well respected man and doctor.
it's be in your best interest to go to his clinic.
omg

Anderson, SC

#14 Sep 26, 2009
you realize that neither of these people are addiction specialists. They did residency and the pikeville hospital...yes pikeville hospital in family practice. This means that they tagged along with doctors in the pikeville area while they worked in their offices. yup thats all they did.

No way in hell these guys should be treating narcotic addiction.

To answer "jazzy" yes you can get high from suboxone. The NICU at pikeville hospital is full of suffering babies whose mothers were on suboxone. If you cant get high off it, why do they drug test for it and why are they sold and snorted.

You are trading one addiction for another. You feel fine because you are still taking a narcotic....the same as you would on oxy or anything else. These guys simply make you addicted to something they can charge you to prescribe.
info

Thelma, KY

#15 Sep 26, 2009
omg wrote:
you realize that neither of these people are addiction specialists. They did residency and the pikeville hospital...yes pikeville hospital in family practice. This means that they tagged along with doctors in the pikeville area while they worked in their offices. yup thats all they did.
No way in hell these guys should be treating narcotic addiction.
To answer "jazzy" yes you can get high from suboxone. The NICU at pikeville hospital is full of suffering babies whose mothers were on suboxone. If you cant get high off it, why do they drug test for it and why are they sold and snorted.
You are trading one addiction for another. You feel fine because you are still taking a narcotic....the same as you would on oxy or anything else. These guys simply make you addicted to something they can charge you to prescribe.
You do not have to be an addiction specialist to treat addiction. I don't know who gave you that information.

And your comment about babies being in the NICU suffering because they had mothers that were on suboxone. You are way off base with that. Suboxone is not even used for pregnant women who are addicted. They are put on subutex and their babies are usually born with no or minimal symptoms of withdrawal.

Jazzy is correct. You do not get high from suboxone unless you are what is considered opiate naive; which simply means that you are not used to taking opioids. The people who are already addicted to opioids do not get high when they take suboxone.

The physicians treating people with suboxone are not making people addicted to anything. They are treating a disease with a medication. So as Jazzy previoulsy posted; people need to get their information right before posting it.

Here are some links that offer valid information:

http://naabt.org/faq_answers.cfm#1

http://naabt.org/faq_answers.cfm#33

http://www.addictionsurvivors.org/vbulletin/s...
yeahh

Falcon, KY

#16 Sep 26, 2009
omg wrote:
you realize that neither of these people are addiction specialists. They did residency and the pikeville hospital...yes pikeville hospital in family practice. This means that they tagged along with doctors in the pikeville area while they worked in their offices. yup

thats all they did.
No way in hell these guys should be treating narcotic addiction.
To answer "jazzy" yes you can get high from suboxone. The NICU at pikeville hospital is full of suffering babies whose mothers were on suboxone. If you cant get high off it, why do they drug test for it and why are they sold and snorted.
You are trading one addiction for another. You feel fine because you are still taking a narcotic....the same as you would on oxy or anything else. These guys simply make you addicted to something they can charge you to prescribe.
first of all..u can not get high off of suboxone..incase u didn't know suboxone has a narcotic blocker..no matter how many suboxone u take u aren't getting high, u get sleepy..and just because it ca show up in a drug test doesn't mean u can get high of of it..i bet u didn't know that diet pills can also show up in a drug test did u? u see if u wuld do a little research before u make ur self look like an ass then u would know that they make tests to test for certain things. anything can show up in a drug test if they have a test to test for that specific thing..sounds to me like u went to the clnic once and probably got kicked out for failing a drug test..as far as pregnant mom's taking suboxone, they have med calld subutec for the prego moms that is safe for the babies..anybody knows whatever a pregnant mom takes goes thru the babies system too..they are sold and snorted because of some dumba** who doesn't have any self respect has to try ou everything on the market..and if u do crush and snort then all ur doing is throwing urself into withdraws which does kinda feel like a high but is painful so maybe that is where u think u can get high off of it but that isn't it, that is called auto withdrawals..and dr.hager is a good doctor..and u need to research him just a little more cause he does go to suboxone and addiction conventions and he has been qualified to prescribe that meds as u have to be..why do u think there aren't very many docs in pikeville who prescribe that medicine? to u ppl who are getting help, good for u, stay with it and keep up the good work..i am there with u cause i have been clan for 3 months and for u ppl wanting help, hang in there and have faith, it will all work out for u and don't let fools like( who="omg"] talk u down because they can't help themselves..it is a good thing and it does work, i am proof..
something to ponder

Winchester, KY

#17 Sep 26, 2009
Jazzy wrote:
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If you are not addicted to opioids, then you probably can get high on suboxone to a limited extent. If you are addicted to amphetamines, barbituates, or benzodiazapines, suboxone will NOT help you. It may actually harm you especially if you try to mix it with any of these drugs. If you are addicted to opioids, which is the biggest problem in this country (oxycontin), then you CANNOT get high from suboxone. It would take me a lifetime to explain the reasons why you cannot, but I will provide a link to you if you want to read it for yourself.
http://abuse-recovery.suite101.com/article.cf...
This is another of the many misconceptions, WHILE oxycontin is abused like all other opiates, oxycontin's abuse statistically is 3%, the most abused opiates are those that fall under "hydrocodone" and the reason for that is due to lower cost, prescribed more frequently, and prescribed in a larger quantity. Now that doesn't mean that oxycontin is less addictive, all opiates that bind to the MU receptor are equally addictive. "Oxycontin" is a branded product which means that a pharmaceutical company markets the product, which allows for media to attach bad or misinformation, because they have "someone" to blame. It kills me that people who abuse drugs want to blame drugs or drug companies for their "POOR CHOICES!" These medications are there to serve a purpose, it is for those patients who have "chronic" pain that is diagnosed and visibily documented. People of the community, please get a clue!
something to ponder

Winchester, KY

#18 Sep 26, 2009
info wrote:
<quoted text>
You do not have to be an addiction specialist to treat addiction. I don't know who gave you that information.
And your comment about babies being in the NICU suffering because they had mothers that were on suboxone. You are way off base with that. Suboxone is not even used for pregnant women who are addicted. They are put on subutex and their babies are usually born with no or minimal symptoms of withdrawal.
Jazzy is correct. You do not get high from suboxone unless you are what is considered opiate naive; which simply means that you are not used to taking opioids. The people who are already addicted to opioids do not get high when they take suboxone.
The physicians treating people with suboxone are not making people addicted to anything. They are treating a disease with a medication. So as Jazzy previoulsy posted; people need to get their information right before posting it.
Here are some links that offer valid information:
http://naabt.org/faq_answers.cfm#1
http://naabt.org/faq_answers.cfm#33
http://www.addictionsurvivors.org/vbulletin/s...
As with any/all opiates, the more you abuse and the longer you abuse, the less effective the drug will be, the term here is "tolerance." All drugs regardless of their class/entity are abusable, period!
Jazzy

Ransom, KY

#19 Sep 26, 2009
something to ponder wrote:
<quoted text>This is another of the many misconceptions, WHILE oxycontin is abused like all other opiates, oxycontin's abuse statistically is 3%, the most abused opiates are those that fall under "hydrocodone" and the reason for that is due to lower cost, prescribed more frequently, and prescribed in a larger quantity. Now that doesn't mean that oxycontin is less addictive, all opiates that bind to the MU receptor are equally addictive. "Oxycontin" is a branded product which means that a pharmaceutical company markets the product, which allows for media to attach bad or misinformation, because they have "someone" to blame. It kills me that people who abuse drugs want to blame drugs or drug companies for their "POOR CHOICES!" These medications are there to serve a purpose, it is for those patients who have "chronic" pain that is diagnosed and visibily documented. People of the community, please get a clue!
I think oxycontin is the biggest mistake drug manufacturers and the FDA ever made. And, yes, I do believe this area is notorious for the number of people who crave and seek that drug in particular.

People who need suboxone are usually those who pay dealers $60 per pill for oxycontin. They also have a habit of taking several per day. This adds up to a pretty penny over time.

Lortab has a limited potential for abuse because it contains aspirin, unlike oxycontin.

http://www.addictionsearch.com/treatment_arti...

http://www.opiates.com/media/heroin-bellevill...

http://www.drugabuse.gov/pdf/tib/prescription...
Smell the coffee

Pikeville, KY

#20 Sep 26, 2009
Why are there SO MANY addicts in Pike County?

Let's stop the cycle by answering that question first.

Twenty years ago I did not know of anyone in this area who was addicted to prescription drugs and now it seems half of eastern Ky is on some kind of pain med, nerve pill, muscle relaxant, etc.
perhaps it is

Thelma, KY

#21 Sep 26, 2009
Poverty which leads to depression which leads to seeking out some relief; even though it is not the right answer.

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