pike county speaks out
opinion

Lexington, KY

#22 Oct 11, 2013
The sad part about this whole attempt is that everyone benefits from it.No one is always going to have it good and will need the help of there neighbors.Its best to start speaking up and thinking of the times ahead that you or your family members are going to need fair treatment and judgement.As of right now?We have a system of thugs that are organized by"our"government and they need to be dealt with just like the"bloods"and" Cryps"in downtown L.A.,California!There is only a few chances in your life to make it better with the help of everyone.Try to use common sense and get on board with those long haul truckers now!
Huh

Virgie, KY

#23 Oct 11, 2013
Looks like this is the wrong site to talk to adults good bye
Taxed to Death

Georgetown, KY

#24 Oct 11, 2013
lol wrote:
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economy wasnt that good up til 2008...after the recession from the time the towers were attacked it has never came back up to what it should be.
We are usually the last one into a recession and the last one out, the economy was pretty good here until about 2010 when we started going into the slump in coal business.

We can't afford the taxes in an area that is not going to come out of this coal recession. They have to start passing budgets that are more reflective of the times we are in. Can't keep making up the difference the federal and state government cuts and the coal companies don't pay as they go under on the backs of the property owners. The personal tax is also to high.
Taxed to Death

Georgetown, KY

#25 Oct 11, 2013
book girl wrote:
i am all for organizing the citizens, but really what good is it going to do?
wasnt it only just a few years ago that busloads of coalminers and their supporters went to washington??
wearing their green shirts.
did it help any?
no, most of those miners have been laid off since, i happen to know about 5 or more of them who have been laid off for a long time.
changed jobs, only to be laid off again.
and the ones who are working are job scared.
i dont know what the answer is.
wish i had a better subject to add.
The power of the vote, the silent majority, a topix organization dedicated to voting the bums out that are squandering our coal severance and wasting our tax money. Informed and organized voters. Very simple to see who is voting for these taxes and when they do we vote them out.
Look at Tennessee, no property tax until you get into very expensive property values. Personal tax on automobiles, boats and everything else is hardly anything. They at least don't have to worry about being taxed off their property.
Taxed to Death

Georgetown, KY

#26 Oct 11, 2013
nothing to lose wrote:
If there are no jobs?The economy is already in the tank.There is no chance of getting it back anytime soon?I would say the best thing for everyone concerned?Would be to organize,speak out,protest and file complaints with the FBI,Homeland Security and the US Marhall Service about all your concerns.The federal government is in debt really bad.The state is looking for state side reasons?The federal is also looking and we all know that the county seats are all crooked in 1 form or another.Just look in the next WV county over and all those people were on first name basis with our bunch.What do you think those conversations consisted of?
Grassroots organizations are the key, we can't effect the national economy but we can at least keep from having the added burden of higher taxes on top of having no job to pay them with. We can make them cut the waste.
The no bid contracts have got to stop, the millions in feasibility studies that are for projects that never get built. How much money was spent on an ATV Trail System that never got built. How much was spent on Coal Mountain, New Town or whatever it was called that never got built. Feasibility study, the property, any road construction, title searches, lawyer fee', everything connected to that site, how much? Who Knows? We need a complete accounting of how much money was spent on that housing site that never got off the ground. Who gets all the engineering work, do they bid it out, who gets all the no bid contracts. The people will be shocked when they see what is wasted down there. They have tried to get an occupation tax on the few still working, they raised the property taxes this year while lying and saying they did not.
We can make a difference if everyone of us tells the politicians no more tax and we tell our neighbors no more tax and we tell the politicians we won't vote for politicians that are going to raise our tax and we will vote any politician out that does.
Taxed to Death

Georgetown, KY

#28 Oct 11, 2013
Huh wrote:
Looks like ill have to set a day and speak at the court house all day,then see if any one will stand with me. I'm not afraid, I'm willing to stand up for every body but it will not have any effect if I'm alone. Someone once said together we stand divided we fall.weve already fallen lets try standing.
We need to start attending Fiscal Court meetings, fill the room, overflow in the streets. You know they act different and think different when there is a room full of people that they don't know. They search every face to see if this is someone I can slip my agenda by. We don't have to disrupt, we don't have to be disorderly, we can and have the right to speak if you get on the agenda before the meeting. I would say just fill the room and watch them go to closed session, sooner or later they will have to come out. Same thing with the city council and the school board meetings, get involved. Make them look out over a crowded room and wonder what is going on, now there is but few down there and they are the same ole ones out in the crowd trying to pump them and find out what their business is. Cronies and plants, there is a reporter from the paper there that reports to the paper and we can get the results of the meetings in the main stream press. We can ask them the hard questions and make them respond. We can force them to make budgets that fit the times and quit taxing us to death, or we can let them know we will vote them out and try again with the new crew!
keep looking

Lexington, KY

#30 Oct 11, 2013
Thats just 1 fundamental change.That county has ways to make people to as they wish and it does not deal with the fiscal court.If its change you want?You have to change everything!That is a fact!!
Taxed to Death

Georgetown, KY

#31 Oct 11, 2013
opinion wrote:
The sad part about this whole attempt is that everyone benefits from it.No one is always going to have it good and will need the help of there neighbors.Its best to start speaking up and thinking of the times ahead that you or your family members are going to need fair treatment and judgement.As of right now?We have a system of thugs that are organized by"our"government and they need to be dealt with just like the"bloods"and" Cryps"in downtown L.A.,California!There is only a few chances in your life to make it better with the help of everyone.Try to use common sense and get on board with those long haul truckers now!
Have you noticed what just happened in Mingo County, the whole crooked system just got took down. This ain't 1950, there is a generation that won't stand for this stuff anymore and there is a social media, open records law and anonymous tip phone numbers to different agencies to report the graft and the malfeasance. Stop the taxing, stop the good ole boy contract system, make them get at least 3 bids on every thing over $2000. We can support a truck stike when it goes national, now it is just directed for DC. If they call for a 3 day period of not buying anything we can do that but as of yet they have not and I don't own a truck.
This local organization will be more important to our individual lives because all politics begin at home.

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#32 Oct 11, 2013
Huh wrote:
Looks like this is the wrong site to talk to adults good bye
HUH...Don't Go...we need your input and support! Don't let a few "idiots" who know NOTHING deter you from our goal. We WILL take back the County!!
Speak Out

Georgetown, KY

#33 Oct 11, 2013
keep looking wrote:
Thats just 1 fundamental change.That county has ways to make people to as they wish and it does not deal with the fiscal court.If its change you want?You have to change everything!That is a fact!!
but this is Pike County Speak Out, the waste and the taxation is my topic now what is yours? This is not restricted to just the tax and the waste/graft. Everybody that has a concern voice it and we discuss how we can go about getting some action taken on it.
hunk hogan

Pikeville, KY

#34 Oct 11, 2013
Huh wrote:
Stay with this hopefully that bus load of coal miners will join in , people are so afraid of Pikeville old money I see you backing down already ,we have to get some back bone and tough skin.we will all stand together and if we do anything we will have to show our faces, so lets gain enough strength and then jump off the computer and truly come alive.
this goes much deeper than pikeville ky.

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#35 Oct 11, 2013
Speak Out wrote:
<quoted text>
but this is Pike County Speak Out, the waste and the taxation is my topic now what is yours? This is not restricted to just the tax and the waste/graft. Everybody that has a concern voice it and we discuss how we can go about getting some action taken on it.
That's right!!
Fishtrap Dam

Georgetown, KY

#36 Oct 11, 2013
Another bungled opportunity, another good ole boy abortion. They killed a state park in order to protect their coal and natural gas reserves. Patton come up in his administration and dedicated/made a big speech on what all we were going to have at Fishtrap. Knowing that it would never be done. They finally figured out a way to get a road around to their coal reserves now that the coal industry has fell apart. I am laughing my ass off and crying at the same time. They killed a state park with a lodge and a road around the dam and other facilities in order to be able to go after their coal and now that they screwed the County of a state park their coal is no good and that GD road will go to nowhere.
First it was just to Three Points and then on to Grapevine after being stalled for another 5 years. Promising the poor people of the Ridgeline Road a closer way out in case of an emergency! Ha
Now that the money is tight and the state can't hardly make a budget it will never be more than a scared up strip job and a sediment pond.
Serves you right you SOB's, that new load out down at Millard has been shut down for months and will never haul a lump of your coal.
Thanks for Screwing Pike County and the people along the Ridgeline Road! Again!

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#37 Oct 11, 2013
hunk hogan wrote:
<quoted text>this goes much deeper than pikeville ky.
Yeah we know...the whole County!! That's our concern!!
Buford Pusser Jr

Pikeville, KY

#39 Oct 11, 2013
Well then wrote:
Here is your first case to start!I was arreted in the court house 3 weeks after I filed a warrent for a man for attacking me with my 3 year old son in my care.2 days before he was arraigned he had me arrested on the same charge.I filed my complaint with the federal.Now you tell me how you would feel?
Id feel that I was not treated fairly, But I would advise you, if you can,to get an attorney, if you can afford one, you can get a free lawyer, and dont pay any attention to what stupid people say.
Buford Pusser Jr

Pikeville, KY

#40 Oct 11, 2013
Huh wrote:
Looks like this is the wrong site to talk to adults good bye
HUH my brother, we need you, everybodies opinion counts, especially yours, dont abandon the cause now.
Buford Pusser Jr

Pikeville, KY

#41 Oct 11, 2013
book girl wrote:
i am all for organizing the citizens, but really what good is it going to do?
wasnt it only just a few years ago that busloads of coalminers and their supporters went to washington??
wearing their green shirts.
did it help any?
no, most of those miners have been laid off since, i happen to know about 5 or more of them who have been laid off for a long time.
changed jobs, only to be laid off again.
and the ones who are working are job scared.
i dont know what the answer is.
wish i had a better subject to add.
Book Girl, persistance is the key, If it goes one time and stops, nothing has been accomplished, But,if we push on, someone, somewhere will take notice, I promise you that.
Buford Pusser Jr

Pikeville, KY

#42 Oct 11, 2013
nothing to lose wrote:
If there are no jobs?The economy is already in the tank.There is no chance of getting it back anytime soon?I would say the best thing for everyone concerned?Would be to organize,speak out,protest and file complaints with the FBI,Homeland Security and the US Marhall Service about all your concerns.The federal government is in debt really bad.The state is looking for state side reasons?The federal is also looking and we all know that the county seats are all crooked in 1 form or another.Just look in the next WV county over and all those people were on first name basis with our bunch.What do you think those conversations consisted of?
I agree, If someone has valid information,It should be givin to the proper authorites, they will do something about it, look at WV
Buford Pusser Jr

Pikeville, KY

#43 Oct 11, 2013
First Id like to say, I thank everybody that has, and will continue to comment on what needs to be done,this organization is in its infancey stage, weve got to learn to crawl before we walk,but like the old saying goes "Charity starts at home" Pike County comes 1st, after that, we can work on joining with other counties to speak out, Frankfort comes next,after that maybe Washington, but we have to stay together and not argue amongst ourselves, I feel this is a very worthy cause, and I pray to GOD almighty that we all can stick together,
Buford Pusser Jr

Pikeville, KY

#45 Oct 11, 2013
And I also agree with HUH's statement, we are a NON VIOLENCE organization, It will not be tolerated, violence leads to nothing but trouble, it ant worth it, our voices combined together are enough,But we need people from every area of the county,Elkhorn City,Marrowbone,Belfry,Phelps, Grapevine,Greasy Creek,Turkey Creek, Canada,ALL AREAS,talk to your neighbors,And I also agree that we do need to have a meeting, to better know each other and where we stand

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