pike county speaks out
If you Build it

Georgetown, KY

#199 Oct 25, 2013
8 Years, several hundred thousand dollars, where is the trail? Where is the beginning of an ATV Trail? What was done in the 8 years since the fiscal court first started working on the Trail. I remember a big ATV Trail Rally in the city Park around 2005 or 2006 with hundreds of people willing to work on that ATV Trail.

Someone needs to explain what has been done toward that trail system and why they never got it built! Someone needs to explain to the Pike County Taxpayers where the money went and how it was spent!

Since: Aug 13

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#200 Oct 25, 2013
If you Build it wrote:
8 Years, several hundred thousand dollars, where is the trail? Where is the beginning of an ATV Trail? What was done in the 8 years since the fiscal court first started working on the Trail. I remember a big ATV Trail Rally in the city Park around 2005 or 2006 with hundreds of people willing to work on that ATV Trail.
Someone needs to explain what has been done toward that trail system and why they never got it built! Someone needs to explain to the Pike County Taxpayers where the money went and how it was spent!
I so agree with you!!! They NEED to answer that question!!!
NO ATV Trail

Georgetown, KY

#201 Oct 25, 2013
After 8 years we should have had a completed trail, not starting from scratch when the money is drying up. WVA. Mingo County had the same hurdles and challenges in getting an ATV Trail as Pike County does, no excuses! They got theirs built, we got nothing!

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#202 Oct 25, 2013
NO ATV Trail wrote:
After 8 years we should have had a completed trail, not starting from scratch when the money is drying up. WVA. Mingo County had the same hurdles and challenges in getting an ATV Trail as Pike County does, no excuses! They got theirs built, we got nothing!
This is the election that we got to let our voices be heard!! If anyone that runs hasn't done their job in the past should NOT get any votes from the citizens! Come on people we are the only ones who can change things by voting the ones out that have had YEARS to make a difference!! Its time for a CHANGE and it starts by us SPEAKING up at the polls!!
Forward

Richmond, KY

#203 Oct 25, 2013
NurseLady91 wrote:
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This is the election that we got to let our voices be heard!! If anyone that runs hasn't done their job in the past should NOT get any votes from the citizens! Come on people we are the only ones who can change things by voting the ones out that have had YEARS to make a difference!! Its time for a CHANGE and it starts by us SPEAKING up at the polls!!
that should be for any previous politician,if he or she has severed 2 terms at any public office they shouldn't be lowed to run much less get a vote,these career politician will do or say anything to continue their lifestyles while the others goes without good paying jobs,if people keeps electing these folks we deserve the out come.

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#204 Oct 25, 2013
Forward wrote:
<quoted text>that should be for any previous politician,if he or she has severed 2 terms at any public office they shouldn't be lowed to run much less get a vote,these career politician will do or say anything to continue their lifestyles while the others goes without good paying jobs,if people keeps electing these folks we deserve the out come.
I agree with you on the 2 term ordeal. It seems after 2 terms the person gets complacent in their position and instead of being in it for the PEOPLE they are in it for the dollar amount!! I think this will be one election that the long term officials will be SHOCKED to see that they will lose by a LANDSLIDE!!! Don't forget to VOTE Pike Countians!!!
New Deal

Georgetown, KY

#205 Oct 25, 2013
NurseLady91 wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you on the 2 term ordeal. It seems after 2 terms the person gets complacent in their position and instead of being in it for the PEOPLE they are in it for the dollar amount!! I think this will be one election that the long term officials will be SHOCKED to see that they will lose by a LANDSLIDE!!! Don't forget to VOTE Pike Countians!!!
In two terms, out a term or two and back in for two more terms, out again and back again. Two terms should be two terms not handing the position around for 30-40 years.
The tax, spend and waste policy of county government has to stop. Lean budgets that concentrate on essential services and no new taxes on the property owners as we go through this depression in the coal industry.
Fiscal responsible individuals that will work hard on new non coal job creation and consider that as the most important part of their job description. We just can't keep electing the old guard from the Pike County Political Machine and expect a different result. The people that have been in charge for the last 40 years are part of the problem, not part of the solution. They not only have no good answers for the problems of Pike County, they are the problem. New Ideas and people with the energy to work the problem of unemployment in the East Ky. Coal Fields and not be so dedicated to lining their own pockets.
They should go crawling off with their riches and be willing to let someone see if they can fix what they have broken. The life of Pike County and Eastern Kentucky depends on the next 10 years of action or inaction. The most critical time we have faced in over 100 years when they started mining coal in this region.
The next 2 or 3 election cycles are more important to this region than any we have ever faced. We need men and women of action, competent people that understand the problem and are not owned by coal money. For 100 years we have gave body and soul to a coal company and the habit will be hard to break, especially for 2nd and 3rd generation miners but you have to understand! When a coal company is gone due to outside market forces we can no longer do anything for them and they can no longer do anything for us.
As market forces deplete the area of coal jobs we have to start thinking about Pike County and our citizens. Coal, we've worked for it, bled for it and died for it and depleted the area of all the easy coal. Don't be foolish enough to think the coal corporations will do anything for us once the coal is gone or it is not economical for them to mine it.
I repeat, let coal take care of coal as long as a coal company can mine it but the entire energy of Pike County Politicians and the people should be directed towards non-coal jobs and economic opportunity. We can't afford another great exodus from Pike County as we had during the 50's and 60's, our young people need to be able to find gainful employment in Pike County were they were born.
All I want to hear from any politicians stump speech is jobs, jobs, jobs. Keep your stupid election jingles off the air and talk about job creation and what you are going to do for Pike County as the County loses the coal industry!
I Fully Agree

Mount Sterling, KY

#206 Oct 25, 2013
New Deal wrote:
<quoted text>
In two terms, out a term or two and back in for two more terms, out again and back again. Two terms should be two terms not handing the position around for 30-40 years.
The tax, spend and waste policy of county government has to stop. Lean budgets that concentrate on essential services and no new taxes on the property owners as we go through this depression in the coal industry.
Fiscal responsible individuals that will work hard on new non coal job creation and consider that as the most important part of their job description. We just can't keep electing the old guard from the Pike County Political Machine and expect a different result. The people that have been in charge for the last 40 years are part of the problem, not part of the solution. They not only have no good answers for the problems of Pike County, they are the problem. New Ideas and people with the energy to work the problem of unemployment in the East Ky. Coal Fields and not be so dedicated to lining their own pockets.
They should go crawling off with their riches and be willing to let someone see if they can fix what they have broken. The life of Pike County and Eastern Kentucky depends on the next 10 years of action or inaction. The most critical time we have faced in over 100 years when they started mining coal in this region.
The next 2 or 3 election cycles are more important to this region than any we have ever faced. We need men and women of action, competent people that understand the problem and are not owned by coal money. For 100 years we have gave body and soul to a coal company and the habit will be hard to break, especially for 2nd and 3rd generation miners but you have to understand! When a coal company is gone due to outside market forces we can no longer do anything for them and they can no longer do anything for us.
As market forces deplete the area of coal jobs we have to start thinking about Pike County and our citizens. Coal, we've worked for it, bled for it and died for it and depleted the area of all the easy coal. Don't be foolish enough to think the coal corporations will do anything for us once the coal is gone or it is not economical for them to mine it.
I repeat, let coal take care of coal as long as a coal company can mine it but the entire energy of Pike County Politicians and the people should be directed towards non-coal jobs and economic opportunity. We can't afford another great exodus from Pike County as we had during the 50's and 60's, our young people need to be able to find gainful employment in Pike County were they were born.
All I want to hear from any politicians stump speech is jobs, jobs, jobs. Keep your stupid election jingles off the air and talk about job creation and what you are going to do for Pike County as the County loses the coal industry!
I agree with every thing you said. You are a "VERY SMART PERSON", But can we CHANGE Pike County or is the wade to tight to break?
Swimming Up Stream

Georgetown, KY

#207 Oct 25, 2013
I Fully Agree wrote:
<quoted text> I agree with every thing you said. You are a "VERY SMART PERSON", But can we CHANGE Pike County or is the wade to tight to break?
All the metaphors and examples of a monumental task apply here. It will be like pulling teeth, a hard and long row to hoe. The time when it was easy was 30 years ago when the coal severance and coal money was flowing like water. First you have to change the mindset of the typical Pike County Politician and even change the mindset of the people of Pike County. It's a hard thing to contemplate an industry the County relied on for over 100 years is going away. Some will cling to it even as it disappears in front of their eyes.

The only thing that is in our favor is the old politicians that have had their head buried in the sand are at the end of their career. The little town rag they call a News Paper down at the county seat now has been replaced with social media. They can't control the information in a coal town paper as they once did. People on sites like this will be able to say, maybe coal will not come back this time. Maybe it is not a cardinal sin to talk about a non-coal job. What if these politicians are wrong, have been wrong and will not be able to govern in this transition time between coal and a new non-coal economy. When you see your neighbor layed off for months and can't find a coal related job. See his unemployment run out and see him go bankrupt, lose his house and possession's or have to pack up his family and leave. See it repeated until half the neighborhood is gone or living like refugee's in their own home county, I feel we can get something done if enough people realize we don't really have a choice. We can't blame it away or wish it away but step up to the challenge and fix it. Hold that vote close to your vest and give it grudgingly, only when you feel someone is capable, has the answers to the problem and the people's interest at heart. I really don't see anybody holding office now that fits that criteria. The first challenge will be to dissemble the political machine in Pike County and the power elite that rule only for their own self interest. The new politicians platform needs to have a job creation plank in it and a clear cut path to how they are going to go about it, if not! Don't vote for them!
hmmmmm

Ashland, KY

#208 Oct 25, 2013
New Deal wrote:
<quoted text>
In two terms, out a term or two and back in for two more terms, out again and back again. Two terms should be two terms not handing the position around for 30-40 years.
The tax, spend and waste policy of county government has to stop. Lean budgets that concentrate on essential services and no new taxes on the property owners as we go through this depression in the coal industry.
Fiscal responsible individuals that will work hard on new non coal job creation and consider that as the most important part of their job description. We just can't keep electing the old guard from the Pike County Political Machine and expect a different result. The people that have been in charge for the last 40 years are part of the problem, not part of the solution. They not only have no good answers for the problems of Pike County, they are the problem. New Ideas and people with the energy to work the problem of unemployment in the East Ky. Coal Fields and not be so dedicated to lining their own pockets.
They should go crawling off with their riches and be willing to let someone see if they can fix what they have broken. The life of Pike County and Eastern Kentucky depends on the next 10 years of action or inaction. The most critical time we have faced in over 100 years when they started mining coal in this region.
The next 2 or 3 election cycles are more important to this region than any we have ever faced. We need men and women of action, competent people that understand the problem and are not owned by coal money. For 100 years we have gave body and soul to a coal company and the habit will be hard to break, especially for 2nd and 3rd generation miners but you have to understand! When a coal company is gone due to outside market forces we can no longer do anything for them and they can no longer do anything for us.
As market forces deplete the area of coal jobs we have to start thinking about Pike County and our citizens. Coal, we've worked for it, bled for it and died for it and depleted the area of all the easy coal. Don't be foolish enough to think the coal corporations will do anything for us once the coal is gone or it is not economical for them to mine it.
I repeat, let coal take care of coal as long as a coal company can mine it but the entire energy of Pike County Politicians and the people should be directed towards non-coal jobs and economic opportunity. We can't afford another great exodus from Pike County as we had during the 50's and 60's, our young people need to be able to find gainful employment in Pike County were they were born.
All I want to hear from any politicians stump speech is jobs, jobs, jobs. Keep your stupid election jingles off the air and talk about job creation and what you are going to do for Pike County as the County loses the coal industry!
I love how people want to throw around terms like Market forces for what is happening with coal. What is happening to coal has nothing to do with natural market forces. We have a President that wants to get rid of a major US industry and people are ok with it. I just don't understand why people are ok with what the president is doing with our economy. Not just in our region but the whole US economy.

CMN

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#209 Oct 25, 2013
hmmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
I love how people want to throw around terms like Market forces for what is happening with coal. What is happening to coal has nothing to do with natural market forces. We have a President that wants to get rid of a major US industry and people are ok with it. I just don't understand why people are ok with what the president is doing with our economy. Not just in our region but the whole US economy.
You are right...you do not understand.
hmmmmm

Ashland, KY

#210 Oct 25, 2013
CMN wrote:
<quoted text>
You are right...you do not understand.
So you are ok with the President destroying our economy?
Fox News Is A Joke

Shelbiana, KY

#211 Oct 26, 2013
hmmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
I love how people want to throw around terms like Market forces for what is happening with coal. What is happening to coal has nothing to do with natural market forces. We have a President that wants to get rid of a major US industry and people are ok with it. I just don't understand why people are ok with what the president is doing with our economy. Not just in our region but the whole US economy.
Coal is History you dimwitted twit.
Fox News Is A Joke

Shelbiana, KY

#212 Oct 26, 2013
hmmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
So you are ok with the President destroying our economy?
The Rconmy crashed under Bush Stupid.
Fox News Is A Joke

Shelbiana, KY

#213 Oct 26, 2013
Economy

Lmfao
Blame Game

Georgetown, KY

#214 Oct 26, 2013
hmmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
I love how people want to throw around terms like Market forces for what is happening with coal. What is happening to coal has nothing to do with natural market forces. We have a President that wants to get rid of a major US industry and people are ok with it. I just don't understand why people are ok with what the president is doing with our economy. Not just in our region but the whole US economy.
What difference does it make "what, who" killed the coal industry! It's gone or will be, kinda non productive just blaming Obama and stewing about it. If it is going away and it is, the only sensible thing to do is figure out what we are going to replace it with. Obama's fault, my fault, your fault, it matters not! All that matters is realizing coal is going the way of whale oil. Work the problem and work on non-coal jobs, we can figure out who killed it after we learn how to survive without it.
Blame Game

Georgetown, KY

#215 Oct 26, 2013
While we are on the subject, most of your next election cycle will be all about the blame game. Politicians with a miners cap on and telling you Obama killed the coal industry and that they are the friends of coal and the friend of the miner and that they will help bring the coal industry back! They are blowing smoke up your butt, they can take the coal money to fund their campaign and you can give them their job back but you will be without one.
Hell you don't even see the clean coal commercials on TV anymore, it is all natural gas. January 1, 1915 just one year away coal will not meet the clean air standard for over half the coal fired power plants left. They are even shutting down the coal fired power plant in your back yard, the Power Plant down at Louisa.
Any talk about saving the coal industry and creating coal jobs is a non productive crock of bologna. Let them run their little bluegrass election jingles on the radio and tell you Obama broke it and as soon as we get rid of Obama we can fix the coal industry. Follow the money, the giant sucking sound you are hearing is the money going to natural gas, the carbon fuel that meets the 1915 clean air standards. No money for new coal fired plants, no money for scrubbers, over half the existing coal fired plants that exist today will be gone in 10 years.

Hanging on to your coal bucket and the promises of a coal friendly politician will do nothing for job creation in Pike County. Coal Severance was set up for non coal jobs by people that had the vision to see a time as we are in today. As often happens the politicians wasted a good portion of it and did not spend enough on non coal jobs as it was set up for.
For your information I detest what Obama has done to the constitution and his socialistic idea's. No matter how I feel about the man or his policies. An Obama hate fest won't create one coal job or one non coal job. Just the hard cold realization that coal is on the way out and working the problem of how to build a non coal economic future is all that matters now.

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#216 Oct 26, 2013
New Deal wrote:
<quoted text>
In two terms, out a term or two and back in for two more terms, out again and back again. Two terms should be two terms not handing the position around for 30-40 years.
The tax, spend and waste policy of county government has to stop. Lean budgets that concentrate on essential services and no new taxes on the property owners as we go through this depression in the coal industry.
Fiscal responsible individuals that will work hard on new non coal job creation and consider that as the most important part of their job description. We just can't keep electing the old guard from the Pike County Political Machine and expect a different result. The people that have been in charge for the last 40 years are part of the problem, not part of the solution. They not only have no good answers for the problems of Pike County, they are the problem. New Ideas and people with the energy to work the problem of unemployment in the East Ky. Coal Fields and not be so dedicated to lining their own pockets.
They should go crawling off with their riches and be willing to let someone see if they can fix what they have broken. The life of Pike County and Eastern Kentucky depends on the next 10 years of action or inaction. The most critical time we have faced in over 100 years when they started mining coal in this region.
The next 2 or 3 election cycles are more important to this region than any we have ever faced. We need men and women of action, competent people that understand the problem and are not owned by coal money. For 100 years we have gave body and soul to a coal company and the habit will be hard to break, especially for 2nd and 3rd generation miners but you have to understand! When a coal company is gone due to outside market forces we can no longer do anything for them and they can no longer do anything for us.
As market forces deplete the area of coal jobs we have to start thinking about Pike County and our citizens. Coal, we've worked for it, bled for it and died for it and depleted the area of all the easy coal. Don't be foolish enough to think the coal corporations will do anything for us once the coal is gone or it is not economical for them to mine it.
I repeat, let coal take care of coal as long as a coal company can mine it but the entire energy of Pike County Politicians and the people should be directed towards non-coal jobs and economic opportunity. We can't afford another great exodus from Pike County as we had during the 50's and 60's, our young people need to be able to find gainful employment in Pike County were they were born.
All I want to hear from any politicians stump speech is jobs, jobs, jobs. Keep your stupid election jingles off the air and talk about job creation and what you are going to do for Pike County as the County loses the coal industry!
You are absolutely right!! People who only know coal jobs don't want to hear of any other job market! Which is understandable when it's all they've known...but will soon realize that when there's no money coming in they will welcome the idea of ANY job market! We have to, as hard as it is to believe, realize the coal mines are history, so it's up to the people of the county to make a stand and vote the right person who will bring this job market to life NOT another person who will continue to live their rich filled lives at the county's and people's expense! If the people chooses to sit in the corner and do nothing...then Pike County will become more than a forgotten county or ghost town! Wake Up Pike County!! We need to UNITE on this, not DIVIDE and bicker amongst one another... We are on the same team! There are many good suggestions and ideas on this forum from very intelligent people...so we CAN let our voices be heard! I'm sure it will blow away some of the officials who thought and believed they were the ONLY smart ones!!! Well, how they were wrong!! Let's show them Pike Countians!!!!!!

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#217 Oct 26, 2013
Swimming Up Stream wrote:
<quoted text>
All the metaphors and examples of a monumental task apply here. It will be like pulling teeth, a hard and long row to hoe. The time when it was easy was 30 years ago when the coal severance and coal money was flowing like water. First you have to change the mindset of the typical Pike County Politician and even change the mindset of the people of Pike County. It's a hard thing to contemplate an industry the County relied on for over 100 years is going away. Some will cling to it even as it disappears in front of their eyes.
The only thing that is in our favor is the old politicians that have had their head buried in the sand are at the end of their career. The little town rag they call a News Paper down at the county seat now has been replaced with social media. They can't control the information in a coal town paper as they once did. People on sites like this will be able to say, maybe coal will not come back this time. Maybe it is not a cardinal sin to talk about a non-coal job. What if these politicians are wrong, have been wrong and will not be able to govern in this transition time between coal and a new non-coal economy. When you see your neighbor layed off for months and can't find a coal related job. See his unemployment run out and see him go bankrupt, lose his house and possession's or have to pack up his family and leave. See it repeated until half the neighborhood is gone or living like refugee's in their own home county, I feel we can get something done if enough people realize we don't really have a choice. We can't blame it away or wish it away but step up to the challenge and fix it. Hold that vote close to your vest and give it grudgingly, only when you feel someone is capable, has the answers to the problem and the people's interest at heart. I really don't see anybody holding office now that fits that criteria. The first challenge will be to dissemble the political machine in Pike County and the power elite that rule only for their own self interest. The new politicians platform needs to have a job creation plank in it and a clear cut path to how they are going to go about it, if not! Don't vote for them!
WELL SAID!!! I feel the people are ready to take their county back! The more ideas, information as well as MOTIVATION that is given on this forum, the STRONGER we will be when it cones to standing our ground and voting for that right team that WILL put this county on track where it should've been YEARS ago!!! Thanks again for your input! Keep them coming !
dr phill

Pikeville, KY

#218 Oct 26, 2013
Blame Game wrote:
<quoted text>
What difference does it make "what, who" killed the coal industry! It's gone or will be, kinda non productive just blaming Obama and stewing about it. If it is going away and it is, the only sensible thing to do is figure out what we are going to replace it with. Obama's fault, my fault, your fault, it matters not! All that matters is realizing coal is going the way of whale oil. Work the problem and work on non-coal jobs, we can figure out who killed it after we learn how to survive without it.
please explain how the COAL INDUSTRY is gone. when only coal mines in appalachia are facing these penalties and fines and low or non production?????
How come at least 2 mining companies are pulling out of eastern ky and opening new mines in western ky?
one in indiana????
why is it that coal companies in alabama, illinois and other non-appalachian states are hiring and producing coal????
it isnt coal
its appalachian coal, its the fact that our senators, etc dont care enough about their people to make the deals to pay off those in power.
afterall, if you dont grease the hand that feeds you, you dont get fed.
this is the way politics work, its all one big happy circle jerk, the govt, the mine owners, the epa, msha, they are all in a happy circle jerk and those who arent doing it right get kicked out of the circle.

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