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Hierro

Pikeville, KY

#1 Feb 6, 2013
All I hear lately is Obama is going to take my guns, blah blah. I dont agree with it either but i've not heard any better ideas from you guys.

There is no denying that there needs to be something done about this, i believe a gun ban wont fix it, my question to you guys is how would you guys fix the gun issue?
Confiscate All Guns

Pikeville, KY

#3 Feb 6, 2013
Hierro wrote:
All I hear lately is Obama is going to take my guns, blah blah. I dont agree with it either but i've not heard any better ideas from you guys.
There is no denying that there needs to be something done about this, i believe a gun ban wont fix it, my question to you guys is how would you guys fix the gun issue?
No person should be allowed to have a gun.
GOP told you

Summersville, WV

#4 Feb 6, 2013
data out from the UK, where guns are banned, shows gun crime has soared by 35 percent.

The Government's latest crime figures were condemned as "truly terrible" by the Tories today as it emerged that gun crime in England and Wales soared by 35% last year.

Criminals used handguns in 46% more offences, Home Office statistics revealed.

Firearms were used in 9,974 recorded crimes in the 12 months to last April, up from 7,362.

It was the fourth consecutive year to see a rise and there were more than 2,200 more gun crimes last year than the previous peak in 1993.

Figures showed the number of crimes involving handguns had more than doubled since the post-Dunblane massacre ban on the weapons, from 2,636 in 1997-1998 to 5,871.

“WFO”

Since: Jan 11

Pikeville

#5 Feb 6, 2013
Land of the free! Home of the government controlled masses!!
GOP told you

Summersville, WV

#6 Feb 6, 2013
Gun crime has almost doubled since Labour came to power as a culture of extreme gang violence has taken hold.

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

In some parts of the country, the number of offences has increased more than five-fold.

In eighteen police areas, gun crime at least doubled.

The statistic will fuel fears that the police are struggling to contain gang-related violence, in which the carrying of a firearm has become increasingly common place.
wtf

Pikeville, KY

#7 Feb 6, 2013
GOP told you wrote:
Gun crime has almost doubled since Labour came to power as a culture of extreme gang violence has taken hold.
The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.
In some parts of the country, the number of offences has increased more than five-fold.
In eighteen police areas, gun crime at least doubled.
The statistic will fuel fears that the police are struggling to contain gang-related violence, in which the carrying of a firearm has become increasingly common place.
It will never be as bad as it is here.

Confiscate all guns now!!
Mel

Frankfort, KY

#8 Feb 6, 2013
Hierro wrote:
All I hear lately is Obama is going to take my guns, blah blah. I dont agree with it either but i've not heard any better ideas from you guys.
There is no denying that there needs to be something done about this, i believe a gun ban wont fix it, my question to you guys is how would you guys fix the gun issue?
It is a situaltion that is unfixable. Banning assault weapons will not stop the violence that has taken place. Making those guns illegal would not have stopped any of the violence. If a disturbed individual wants to kill a lot of people in a public place, there is nothing that is going to stop him from doing so. Take the theater killer James Holmes. Do you think he would have not been able to acquire those weapons if they had been illegal? He would have been able to get them just as easily illegally. Just because something is illegal does not mean you won't be able to get it. Look at all the illegal drugs out there. Some have suggested that even if these assault guns were available on the black market they would have been too costly for the average person to purchase. That is nonsense. Illegal sellers are not stupid. The black market prices fluctuate with the needs of the buyers. If a illegal seller is not selling, he will lower his price just the same as a legal seller. Even so, do you think that James Holmes would have stopped just because he could not afford the weapons and ammo? James Holmes planned his murders months, perhaps years in advance. These types of crimes are not spur of the moment ideas. These insane indivduals fixate themselves at the task of killing. These type of people will wait patiently as long as they need to planning the killings. They will work extra jobs to raise the money to buy the needed weapons and ammo. James Holmes would have found a way to purchase the weapons--one way or another leagally or illegally. So, how do you really stop crazy people bent on killing as many people as they can? Even if someone is proven to have mental problems, you can't arrest every person that has ever had a mental problem. Truth is, you can not predict who is going to kill people. You can add more police at public places and add more security to our schools. But the truth is: if someone wants to kill innocent people, there is no way to stop them.
GOP told you

Summersville, WV

#9 Feb 6, 2013
Feinstein's Gun Control Bill Will Trigger The Next American Revolution
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 12/28/2012 13:01 -0400

Submitted by Brandon Smith of Alt-Market blog,

All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party - Mao Tse Tung

After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military - William Burroughs

Revolution? Yes, it all sounds rather “extreme”, but the cold hard reality of our era is not going to comfort us with diplomacies and niceties, so honestly, why should I have to sugar coat anything? We live in extreme times and there is no longer room for prancing around the ultimate consequences of that which is taking place in America today. This country is increasingly sliding towards the edge of internal conflict. The Liberty Movement and true Constitutionalists see it, subsections of Republicans and Democrats see it, and most of all, the federal government sees it. In fact, they may even be counting on it.

There is no ambiguous or muddled separation between the citizenry and the government anymore. The separation is absolute. It is undeniable. It is vast. It is only a matter of time and momentum, and eventually there will be unbridled oppression, dissent, and conflict. All that is required is a trigger, and I believe that trigger has arrived…
GOP told you

Summersville, WV

#10 Feb 6, 2013
Nazi Gun Registration Program of 1938:

- Classified guns for "sporting purposes"

- All citizens who wished to purchase firearms had to register with the Nazi officials and have a background check.

- Presumed German citizens were hostile and thereby exempted Nazis from the gun control law (meaning officials could have guns, citizens could not).

- Gave Nazis unrestricted power to decide what kinds of firearms could, or could not be owned by private persons.

- The types of ammunition that were legal were subject to control by bureaucrats.

- Juveniles under 18 years could not buy firearms and ammunition.

You see, we’ve witnessed the Feinstein gun bill before, many times through history. We know how it ends, so, there is very little incentive for us to go along quietly.
Lela

Richmond, KY

#12 Feb 6, 2013
Taking our guns won't changed anything.
Meshimacon

AOL

#13 Feb 6, 2013
They will NEVER take all our guns away and here is why: Because they can NOT quarantee our saftey from criminals. It's as simple as that, people.
Obama hater

Richmond, KY

#14 Feb 6, 2013
GOP told you wrote:
Nazi Gun Registration Program of 1938:
- Classified guns for "sporting purposes"
- All citizens who wished to purchase firearms had to register with the Nazi officials and have a background check.
- Presumed German citizens were hostile and thereby exempted Nazis from the gun control law (meaning officials could have guns, citizens could not).
- Gave Nazis unrestricted power to decide what kinds of firearms could, or could not be owned by private persons.
- The types of ammunition that were legal were subject to control by bureaucrats.
- Juveniles under 18 years could not buy firearms and ammunition.
You see, we’ve witnessed the Feinstein gun bill before, many times through history. We know how it ends, so, there is very little incentive for us to go along quietly.
kudos to you.....great post.....we need to wake the sheeple up in America..
GOP told you

Summersville, WV

#15 Feb 6, 2013
Gun control laws restrict the purchase or ownership of guns, even though guns are typically acquired for defensive and/or sporting purposes.

Studies show that more gun ownership results in less crime, but liberals push gun control because it increases the dependency of voters on government for protection.

The political effect of gun control is to shift voters leftward, and hence the primary supporters of gun control are the liberal media and leftist politicians.

In the United Kingdom, which already has the strictest gun control in Europe, leftists demand control over 120,000 deactivated guns, even though their activation and use constitute only 0.04% of all gun offenses there. But leftists want gun control because fewer guns means greater dependency on government.

Gun control is a denial or limitation by governments of the right to armed self-defense, as promised by the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America.

Genocide has occurred only after gun control first disarmed the citizenry.

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#16 Feb 7, 2013
Hierro

Pikeville, KY

#17 Feb 7, 2013
You guys are hopeless, i made this thread for your ideas. Not paranoid ideas, or obama bashing
Piers 2016

Pikeville, KY

#18 Feb 7, 2013
GOP told you wrote:
Gun control laws restrict the purchase or ownership of guns, even though guns are typically acquired for defensive and/or sporting purposes.
Studies show that more gun ownership results in less crime, but liberals push gun control because it increases the dependency of voters on government for protection.
The political effect of gun control is to shift voters leftward, and hence the primary supporters of gun control are the liberal media and leftist politicians.
In the United Kingdom, which already has the strictest gun control in Europe, leftists demand control over 120,000 deactivated guns, even though their activation and use constitute only 0.04% of all gun offenses there. But leftists want gun control because fewer guns means greater dependency on government.
Gun control is a denial or limitation by governments of the right to armed self-defense, as promised by the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America.
Genocide has occurred only after gun control first disarmed the citizenry.
You silly.
GOP told you

Summersville, WV

#19 Feb 7, 2013
•In 1911, Turkey imposed gun control and then, from 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million defenseless Armenians were killed.
•In 1929, the Soviet Union imposed gun control and over the next 24 years about 20 million defenseless dissidents were killed.
GOP told you

Summersville, WV

#20 Feb 7, 2013
Hierro wrote:
You guys are hopeless, i made this thread for your ideas. Not paranoid ideas, or obama bashing
If you are naive enough to present Obama's theories and ideas to intelligent people....you'll find that they will bash him because he is a tyrannical idiot who truely thinks he can trash the Constitution and install himself as our king.
Obama hater

Richmond, KY

#21 Feb 7, 2013
GOP told you wrote:
•In 1911, Turkey imposed gun control and then, from 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million defenseless Armenians were killed.
•In 1929, the Soviet Union imposed gun control and over the next 24 years about 20 million defenseless dissidents were killed.
Dont forget the austrians from 1933 to 1939....nazi germany took their guns...
wtf

Pikeville, KY

#22 Feb 7, 2013
GOP told you wrote:
<quoted text>If you are naive enough to present Obama's theories and ideas to intelligent people....you'll find that they will bash him because he is a tyrannical idiot who truely thinks he can trash the Constitution and install himself as our king.
Do you know any intelligent people because you certainly are not one.

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