Do You Believe NSA Director?

Do You Believe NSA Director?

Created by PAT RlOT on Jun 18, 2013

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Hell No..They'll Say Anything At This Point

Yes, Sure ( I Have To Choose This..I Fear The NSA)

Not Sure.

“PROUDLY PUNKING MODS & TROLLS ”

Since: May 13

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#1 Jun 18, 2013
Army General Keith Alexander, Director of The NSA and U.S. Cyber-Command, testified before Congress today and part of his testimony claims that the broadly sweeping Intel/Info/Data-Mining they've been using to monitor Americans has resulted in at least 50 acts of terrorism being stopped before hand. Of course that claim provides NO specific information that could be used to verify his claims to either validate or deny their merit. In short, he's saying they have prevented at least 50 events yet will not elaborate on any details of them other than broad, vague "details". Sorry but I am not buying it. This Administration and it's subordinates have been captured in one lie after another, one deception or untruth after another and I honestly believe that at this point they would say ANYTHING to try saving face. They have no problem lying before Congress..Lois Lerner and James Clapper proved that and it appears that this President has instilled within his underlings that he condones them claiming anything as long as it furthers his agenda. He believes he is above The Law and does not have to answer to anyone and that The U.S. Constitution cannot restrict his desires and in believing such he clearly does not require or expect forthright honesty from his staff. Sorry, but after everything we have seen from the POTUS and his administration recently, we cannot afford to believe anything he/they say.

“PROUDLY PUNKING MODS & TROLLS ”

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#2 Jun 18, 2013
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57588830/...

I do believe him (General Alexander) when he says that "these disclosures have harmed us.." though because it's obvious that since Americans now know our own Government views as criminals and is abusing their powers against us, we are a threat to their programs being used unjustly..I hope so anyway.

“PROUDLY PUNKING MODS & TROLLS ”

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#4 Jun 18, 2013
GOP wrote:
You couldn't have made that any more clear. Thanks again for your astute observations.
"Disclosures" have definitely hurt THEM as you observed and so clearly stated.
How many do you think he fooled now as opposed to how many he could have fooled with his lies a year or two ago?
I'm sure ol blue and wtf STILL ignorantly believe every word and syllable the lying SOB, Obama, tells his puppets to say.
Oh, without a doubt they will be among the mindless mob that will uphold everything Obama & Co. tells them to believe and they will then go about with their fingers in their ears nyah'ing nyah'ing as the equivalent of the sky falling about them does so while they are oblivious. Poor deceived chumps such as they have drank the NObama kool-aid to a point that they cannot turn away from being served even more despite inklings they may have at times that maybe things are not as kosher as Emperor O. would have them believe. Still yet they will gulp down what he tells them to and then go about towing that Party Line even though it's anchored in foundationless bullsh!t, my friend.
what

Elkhorn City, KY

#5 Jun 19, 2013
u know we could have some good discussions on here PAT RIOT. me and u see some things the same but some things the opposite and it could make for some good dialogue but for some reason every time i try to talk it always goes back to those same guys u all dont get along with. why cant u just ignore them and maybe they will stop too and we could all get on with some kind of debates that may come to a good conclusion to some things that many opinions are involved in. if they wanna stay childish im sure the adults her can just ignore them and just overlook the troll parts. u seem well educated in many ways but in some ways i am well educated too and u never know what we might come up with to some of the problems that the USA and others int the world are facin too.

“PROUDLY PUNKING MODS & TROLLS ”

Since: May 13

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#6 Jun 19, 2013
what wrote:
u know we could have some good discussions on here PAT RIOT. me and u see some things the same but some things the opposite and it could make for some good dialogue but for some reason every time i try to talk it always goes back to those same guys u all dont get along with. why cant u just ignore them and maybe they will stop too and we could all get on with some kind of debates that may come to a good conclusion to some things that many opinions are involved in. if they wanna stay childish im sure the adults her can just ignore them and just overlook the troll parts. u seem well educated in many ways but in some ways i am well educated too and u never know what we might come up with to some of the problems that the USA and others int the world are facin too.
I hear you and am always available for sensible, civil discussions where we address actual issues and concerns. I accepted a long time ago that everyone may not always see eye to eye but we all share common concerns. I have to apologize for my little horde of worshipers who try their best to derail everything into focusing on their favorite subject: Me. I admit, I have a mischievous streak myself that is sometimes flaring up for me to abuse them some and garner some amusement at their expenses but I'm trying to do better. Notice how they've come to know and accept their places better recently and are not so belligerently sharing their homoerotic obsessions for me so prevalently.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#7 Jun 19, 2013
Geez, an intelligent discussion on topix. Miracles do happen. I'm all for ignoring the you know whos. I'm doing a whole lot better than I used to. Used to be I had to answer every little post thrown at me but I have learned to pick and choose on which grounds I do any verbal jousting and with whom I do the jousting with. Looking forward to your discussions gentlemen.
what

Elkhorn City, KY

#8 Jun 19, 2013
i dont take jabs at anyone but i do stand for what i believe in. its juts the u suck this or u suck that stuff that makes me just leave and go to another place for civil conversation. the NSA thing is something that is very important to all and something needs to be dont one way or an other but just talkin about homo stuff wont gt a conclusion to anything

“PROUDLY PUNKING MODS & TROLLS ”

Since: May 13

FOR 1/2 A DECADE!!!

#9 Jun 19, 2013
I think there is gross injustices and rampant abuse of power taking place within most every agency within the current Administration and the NSA is just the tip of the iceberg. There is the troubles at the I.R.S., The Dept. Of Justice, The State Dept., and we've known about issues with the E.P.A. for awhile now. I'm sure I have forgotten a few..but these are all
indicative of either tyrannical policies in place or a strong presence of incompetence altogether. Take your pick.

“PROUDLY PUNKING MODS & TROLLS ”

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#11 Jun 19, 2013
dunadd wrote:
Geez, an intelligent discussion on topix. Miracles do happen. I'm all for ignoring the you know whos. I'm doing a whole lot better than I used to. Used to be I had to answer every little post thrown at me but I have learned to pick and choose on which grounds I do any verbal jousting and with whom I do the jousting with. Looking forward to your discussions gentlemen.
That's the best approach, Dun and I'm sure you'll notice that I never verbally bitchslap my worshipers unless I'm bored to begin with and I have a terrible mischievous streak which flares up sometimes and then I scratch it with some harsh abuse of this site's "lesser people". I know, I know..it really is akin to abusing retarded people or like the torture of a small animal in the fact that it's cruel because I am in such a superior place over them and their dimwitted dullardism. It's sort of like watching a match of wits between an Einsteinian or Hawkings type (Me) and a Larry The Cable Guy type (Them) LOL! It's really a one sided, unfair bludgeoning that they suffer as I belittle them all the while they are too stupid to even grasp most of the insults or let alone understand how their own actions reveal what ignorant POS they are. I have been tormenting and abusing them for years and have truly excelled at their demeaning and humiliation to such a point that it requires very little effort on my part anymore and there has never been any real challenge to it of course.
Mel

Pineville, KY

#12 Jun 19, 2013
I don't know what to believe. We're already through the looking glass. I fear we've gone too far into the void.

“PROUDLY PUNKING MODS & TROLLS ”

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#13 Jun 19, 2013
Mel wrote:
I don't know what to believe. We're already through the looking glass. I fear we've gone too far into the void.
I agree too, Mel for we are past any point of no return. We know what we know and cannot go back now and besides, it's not like the programs being used to violate our Privacy and our Rights is going to be shelved and no longer used. Even if Laws were passed making it illegal I believe certain rogues within Government would still continue to utilize it. The term we've heard for years: "Slippery Slope" is exactly what we're now descending down upon.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#16 Jun 21, 2013
It was and is inevitable that the Manifest Destiny thing come to an end. Size don't matter. A diamond ring is not wrapped in a tractor trailer but it is worth a lot. As I have stated, America is from coast to coast and Great Lakes to Gulf of Mexico but that is only physical America, the real America, which is the freedom our ancestors fought for and a lot of us served for, that real America lives in our hearts, not in things, not in handouts, welfare, DC, government, politicians, etc, etc. America is not a tangible thing one can wrap and put under the Christmas tree. America lives in our hearts and it is an entity called FREEDOM. that is America. Those in DC don't and can't understand this concept, America is not what they can give us. America is freedom, an intangible that Nathan Hale was hung for, that for which those at Valley Forge left blood prints in the snow from their feet while the English were wining, dining and dancing in Philadelphia. This freedom is worth my uncle lying at the bottom of the Bering Sea for 70 years and his sister, my mother, dying without knowing where he was. Those in DC and a lot of those on these threads and all the backers of the DC National socialist government, none of them can understand, fathom, contemplate these things. I can feed myself, let me keep my freedom. I can protect myself, keep your drones, i'll keep my freedom. They don't understand this concept. They don't understand us.

“PROUDLY PUNKING MODS & TROLLS ”

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#17 Jun 21, 2013
That's what I say, Dun: America is a state of mind ultimately but Freedom is a GOD-granted reality. It
is God that ultimately determines us to be Free Men
and NOT the Federal Government and The Constitution
observes and reinforces that fact. Sure, we are to adhere to and follow the Laws of The Land but only as long as they do not conflict with The Laws Of God
and I dare say that certain recent undertakings by the Gov't. are coming close to directly conflicting
with those of God for we people/individuals that are
believers in God to begin with.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#18 Jun 21, 2013
very well said, my friend and it is the truth. I wanted to respond now as we are going to buy a baby gift and get it to a woman having a baby shower we can't attend. It is a definite fact Government is certainly coming close to directly conflicting with the Laws of God and the Constitution of the United States. My belief is the Government has already overstepped the bounds given to us by God and assured us by the Constitution of the United States and are certainly in direct conflict with God, the Constitution and us.

“PROUDLY PUNKING MODS & TROLLS ”

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#19 Jun 21, 2013
I agree, Dun. The U.S. Constitution not only makes reference to God being the originator of our Liberty and Freedoms as Men but also declares Him as the One that grants us those very things as well, not the Government. They even refer to the "BLESSINGS of Liberty to ourselves.."..Blessings being the key word there.
what

Elkhorn City, KY

#21 Jun 22, 2013
PAT RlOT wrote:
That's what I say, Dun: America is a state of mind ultimately but Freedom is a GOD-granted reality. It
is God that ultimately determines us to be Free Men
and NOT the Federal Government and The Constitution
observes and reinforces that fact. Sure, we are to adhere to and follow the Laws of The Land but only as long as they do not conflict with The Laws Of God
and I dare say that certain recent undertakings by the Gov't. are coming close to directly conflicting
with those of God for we people/individuals that are
believers in God to begin with.
if god is the one who gives man freedom i would like to ask u which god it is that u worship. becuz both the new and old testament condone slavery and no way can anyone say slavery and freedom can go hand in hand. freedom comes from men that were fed up with the tyranical leadership of the catholic church so they left europe in search of a new world were a man could live free...thats one of the main reasons we have the seperation of church and state. religion and freedom do not work together, the whole belief in god is being a submissive slave to his rules, if u dont agree with anything he wants then u get eternity in hell so i cant see any part of christianity actually lettin anyone be a free man. but then again we can just pick and choose what we want out of the book to make it look like it is good for humanity. as far as the gov goes, it isnt an obama fault or a bush fault or any other president that has been theres fault. ppl always want to blame the POTUS when in fact it is the congress and senate that are screwin over all the americans and they get to keep on and on with it cuz they dont have a term limit. that is why we get little secret programs like wire tappin and all. the POTUS cant really change much one way or the other when all of the senate and congress want something done other than veto it, but sooner or later it gets worded so that it can pass and not look so blatantly corrupt then the POTUS at the time can pass it and not take to hard of a hit. i say 2 term limit for all gov officials should be the law, then the average american citizen then would have a chance. there wouldnt be 1% of the population controlling 99% of the money the way they do by buyin off incumbent senators and congressmen.

“PROUDLY PUNKING MODS & TROLLS ”

Since: May 13

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#22 Jun 24, 2013
what wrote:
<quoted text>
if god is the one who gives man freedom i would like to ask u which god it is that u worship. becuz both the new and old testament condone slavery and no way can anyone say slavery and freedom can go hand in hand. freedom comes from men that were fed up with the tyranical leadership of the catholic church so they left europe in search of a new world were a man could live free...thats one of the main reasons we have the seperation of church and state. religion and freedom do not work together, the whole belief in god is being a submissive slave to his rules, if u dont agree with anything he wants then u get eternity in hell so i cant see any part of christianity actually lettin anyone be a free man. but then again we can just pick and choose what we want out of the book to make it look like it is good for humanity. as far as the gov goes, it isnt an obama fault or a bush fault or any other president that has been theres fault. ppl always want to blame the POTUS when in fact it is the congress and senate that are screwin over all the americans and they get to keep on and on with it cuz they dont have a term limit. that is why we get little secret programs like wire tappin and all. the POTUS cant really change much one way or the other when all of the senate and congress want something done other than veto it, but sooner or later it gets worded so that it can pass and not look so blatantly corrupt then the POTUS at the time can pass it and not take to hard of a hit. i say 2 term limit for all gov officials should be the law, then the average american citizen then would have a chance. there wouldnt be 1% of the population controlling 99% of the money the way they do by buyin off incumbent senators and congressmen.
Ever heard of Free Will? You've got it, I've got it, everyone has got it. It is granted to us by God so that we CANNOT be enslaved to Him or anyone else basically. Part of being an adult means coming to learn that there are consequences for our actions. As children, we are not that well aware of that but getting older means coming to learn that fact. It is no different with God and no one has to be a "slave" to Him and if that were true, and He is so all-powerful as we believe Him to be then He could have just created us as slaves since the start. He did not so why would He later seek to enslave us
with "rules" or however you mistakenly see it? What parent does not want the best for their child? What parent does not have rules and discipline for their child? It is no different with God for He wants the best for us but He does not FORCE anyone to do anything..even if they believe in Him.
what

Elkhorn City, KY

#23 Jun 24, 2013
PAT RlOT wrote:
<quoted text>
Ever heard of Free Will? You've got it, I've got it, everyone has got it. It is granted to us by God so that we CANNOT be enslaved to Him or anyone else basically. Part of being an adult means coming to learn that there are consequences for our actions. As children, we are not that well aware of that but getting older means coming to learn that fact. It is no different with God and no one has to be a "slave" to Him and if that were true, and He is so all-powerful as we believe Him to be then He could have just created us as slaves since the start. He did not so why would He later seek to enslave us
with "rules" or however you mistakenly see it? What parent does not want the best for their child? What parent does not have rules and discipline for their child? It is no different with God for He wants the best for us but He does not FORCE anyone to do anything..even if they believe in Him.
i wanna know why christians think god gives us free will. that is the biggest lie i have ever heard. the snake in the garden (Satan) is the one that opened adam and eves eyes and gave us free will cuz god made one tree off limits therefore he is takin away your free will from the start. u need to thank satan for free will.

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#24 Jun 24, 2013
If Satan provides Free Will then why does he depend so heavily on lies and deception? If Satan is making the ability to think independently available then why is everything he does based on deceit and destruction? What here is a perfect example as to what BS deceived people actually try convincing themselves is true. I don't mean that to be an insult either, just an example as to the caliber of lies some people will accept OVER that actual TRUTH.
what

Elkhorn City, KY

#25 Jun 24, 2013
PAT RlOT wrote:
If Satan provides Free Will then why does he depend so heavily on lies and deception? If Satan is making the ability to think independently available then why is everything he does based on deceit and destruction? What here is a perfect example as to what BS deceived people actually try convincing themselves is true. I don't mean that to be an insult either, just an example as to the caliber of lies some people will accept OVER that actual TRUTH.
i dont take it as an insult that the truth is the truth but u gotta twist shit to make it legit to u. god had ppl enslved in a sense by bannin the tree, satan came and talked them in to takin their free will back from god. twist it all u want, everyone knows your thinkin method anyway, its obvious fromt he post u put on here to start with...oh yea, i dont mean that as an insult either.

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