Conn Takes The Fifth! Daugherty Takes A Hike!

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Just Me

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<quoted text>What ??? log on to the website and fill out the application? MOST ALJ's ask if you have internet access now and a Facebook account and WILL deny you.
AND, you think the Doctors the SSA send you to give you a good review for disability? LMFAO. That's what they're there for ... TO SAY YOU ARE NOT DISABLED!!! They are usually Dr's that came out at the bottom of their class and can't get nothing else in the medical field.
As i said in another post .. who cares? In two years it's all gone anyway.
LOL,,, so true!

Here are the ones that should worry ...

Since at least 2006, Judge Daugherty had a practice of coordinating with Mr. Conn to create
what was referred to as a “DB List,” which was a list of Mr. Conn’s clients that the judge
planned to approve for benefits that month. After deciding which claimants would be on the
month’s DB List, Judge Daugherty personally telephoned Mr. Conn’s office, provided the
claimant list to one of Mr. Conn’s employees, and indicated whether the claimants needed to
provide additional medical evidence of a “mental” or “physical” ailment. Within days, Mr. Conn
scheduled the listed claimants to see one of the several doctors he paid to provide medical
assessments. These doctors almost invariably concluded that the claimant was disabled. In
most cases, the doctors simply signed and dated a medical form which had been filled out ahead
of time by Mr. Conn’s office.

Taken from this link.

http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm...
KELLERMAN

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Oct 8, 2013
 
Brian wrote:
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Nothing about the system has changed to make it more complicated. Attorneys who were not qualified to practice any other kind of law started running advertisements and commercials to convince people that the process was so hopeless and complicated that you had to hire them in order to win. Where do you think the myth that everyone gets denied the first two times they apply comes from? Attorneys. It's all part of their marketing.
Here's how simple the disability application process is: Log on to SSA's website or go into SSA's offices, complete the application with a claims representative, provide the names and, if possible, phone numbers for your doctors, then complete the forms that the SSA medical examiners send to you. If necessary, go to SSA exams. If you qualify for disability, you will get in Arkansas where they had so many people on the SSI roles in their state that a review was made to find out why so many people were on an this was especially the under eighteen group. Well anyway the best to those who are truly disabled, I hope the process go wells for you.
You don't have to request your own medical records, you don't have to argue your case to a doctor, or any of that. The sad fact is that disability attorneys do very little, then take 25% or $6000 of your back pay for working for, maybe, a couple of hours during the entire time they have your case. SSA does all of the leg-work. Attorneys can submit medical records, but usually they just submit duplicates of what SSA has already obtained and paid for.
An attorney can help argue your case in front of an ALJ if you're intimidated, but that's about it.
Mr. Brian your post is correct other than the fact that those who don't have the ability to pursue the appeal process on the denial cases. Many people are denied for various reasons in accordance to the Social Security regulations and these folks lack the education to represent themselves. one would think that assistance would be out there to assist people in navigating the system. I agree you don't need an attorney if you are skilled enough to handle the paperwork necessary. It was my understanding that you could present your medical records and you were sent by the social security office to their doctor for his assessment. The SSI program has been under the spotlight for a long time due to claims being processed on folks who probably could obtain employment of some level. I remember a news article about claims in
KELLERMAN

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Oct 8, 2013
 
in the State of Arkansas where so many young people were added to the roles that an investigation was conducted to find out why. The answer was that parents were prodding their children to act as if they had mental disabilities in order to obtain benefits due to some mental defect. well anyway I do care about those folks who are disabled that we as a society are morally responsible for. the others are on their own.
Uh Oh

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Well, first off ..Brian, you're a liar and full of shit.

Here is a list of years SSA might look at.

APPENDIX II:
MONTHLY BREAKDOWN OF MR. CONN’S DISABILITY CLAIMANTS
LISTED ON THE DB LIST AND FEES EARNED

Month and Year No. of Claimants on DB List Amount Paid by SSA in Fees
June 2006 14 $23,302.28
July 2006 39 $112,479.02
August 2006 49 $162,853.98
September 2006 24 $59,592.10
October 2006 37 $100,086.16
November 2006 41 $120,011.92
December 2006 23 $59,622.00
January 2007 52 $133,751.73
February 2007 36 $92,511.33
March 2007 46 $104,512.91
April 2007 48 $126,864.57
May 2007 46 $114,903.21
June 2007 50 $129,184.99
July 2007 39 $97,235.20
August 2007 46 $99,885.60
September 2007 52 $128,245.72
October 2007 38 $87,911.81
November 2007 40 $111,829.79
December 2007 42 $87,874.04
January 2008 40 $98,129.42
February 2008 33 $82,518.50
March 2008 36 $82,115.31
April 2008 31 $69,343.95
May 2008 36 $78,806.42
June 2008 44 $104,758.04
July 2008 45 $109,376.64
August 2008 46 $89,811.67
September 2008 39 $72,010.45
October 2008 32 $70,579.88
November 2008 32 $88,158.54
December 2008 23 $42,304.81
January 2009 16 $29,608.30
February 2009 44 $100,422.79
March 2009 32 $68,930.59
April 2009 30 $63,099.10
May 2009 41 $83,603.23
June 2009 47 $143,795.58
July 2009 30 $76,754.28
August 2009 40 $105,633.02
September 2009 39 $101,146.17
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October 2009 46 $115,169.00
January 2010 48 $122,212.31
February 2010 51 $146,736.54
March 2010 33 $92,038.02
April 2010 41 $104,340.14
May 2010 40 $96,199.40
July 2010 46 $117,981.77
Total 1,823 $4,508,242.
If Only

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Brian wrote:
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Nothing about the system has changed to make it more complicated. Attorneys who were not qualified to practice any other kind of law started running advertisements and commercials to convince people that the process was so hopeless and complicated that you had to hire them in order to win. Where do you think the myth that everyone gets denied the first two times they apply comes from? Attorneys. It's all part of their marketing.
Here's how simple the disability application process is: Log on to SSA's website or go into SSA's offices, complete the application with a claims representative, provide the names and, if possible, phone numbers for your doctors, then complete the forms that the SSA medical examiners send to you. If necessary, go to SSA exams. If you qualify for disability, you will get it.
You don't have to request your own medical records, you don't have to argue your case to a doctor, or any of that. The sad fact is that disability attorneys do very little, then take 25% or $6000 of your back pay for working for, maybe, a couple of hours during the entire time they have your case. SSA does all of the leg-work. Attorneys can submit medical records, but usually they just submit duplicates of what SSA has already obtained and paid for.
An attorney can help argue your case in front of an ALJ if you're intimidated, but that's about it.
If only it were truly that simple.
TELL

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Oct 9, 2013
 
Its not just him ever lawyer around lives off this they just dident bring the att to there self with all the crazy shit he done you would be shocked at the millions all the lawyers make from ssa coal dont keep there lights on ssa does.
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Uh Oh wrote:
Well, first off ..Brian, you're a liar and full of shit.
How am I either of those things? I worked for DDS, the component that makes medical decisions for SSA, for 22 years, before I retired. I know how the process works. Don't make baseless insults.
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If Only wrote:
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If only it were truly that simple.
It is. Unless you listen to crooked lawyers who make it seem like advanced physics.
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Brian wrote:
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How am I either of those things? I worked for DDS, the component that makes medical decisions for SSA, for 22 years, before I retired. I know how the process works. Don't make baseless insults.
Do people get for Bipolar and Panic Disorders?
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KELLERMAN wrote:
<quoted text> I will not discredit this attorney, but when the system changed to where you have to hire an attorney to get benefits. this is when the problem began. Why do these agencies make it so difficult for the average person to apply and provide their medical histories. I don't think this attorney will be running from anything. he will have representation like any of us would. This problem is a nationwide disgrace and will not changed until safe guards are in place to prevent people who aren't disabled in getting benefits that others are in need of.
Politicians are mostly attorney's, who in turn write the laws! Convenient ain't it?*LOL*

I agree, a lawyer should not be a part of the SSI system to begin with. A panel of doctors performing medical evaluations would've been sufficient.
Harry Balz

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People if you have kept your dr appointments and your dr still deems you disabled then you will not have a problem with a cdr.However if you have not been back to the dr ever since you got your disability then you are going to have major problems.If you are truly disabled and are doing everything your dr tells you then don't let a bunch of these a-holes get on here and try to scare you.The big majority of them draw a check also that's why they have so much free time on their hands.
In The Army

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Harry Balz wrote:
People if you have kept your dr appointments and your dr still deems you disabled then you will not have a problem with a cdr.However if you have not been back to the dr ever since you got your disability then you are going to have major problems.If you are truly disabled and are doing everything your dr tells you then don't let a bunch of these a-holes get on here and try to scare you.The big majority of them draw a check also that's why they have so much free time on their hands.
Thank you !! Thats what I've said time after time.
They WILL be looking at if clients started going to the Dr AFTER all this crap started. If so, they are in trouble.
I agree with a lot of what Brian says also. I understand this CDR Review now. On your next CDR Letter, if you had Conn you MIGHT get the "Full Forum" to fill out. Only if it looks shady or between 2006 to Mid 2011.
Also, to the person who ask if you can get it being Bipolar and panic attacks ....YES! A lot of guys i know in the military get it on that alone. I've seen Bipolar people in action. They can be dangerous and the military even knows that.
I'll just stick my seven more years out in the Army and retire and hopefully if the system goes broke ... I'll have that pension. Maybe! LOL, the way things are going in this country.
Also, most people on here are scaring those LEGIT clients of Conn's. They are on disability, but had a different lawyer. Still, if they watched 60 minuets and CSPAN about all this mess .... they should worry too.
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Harry Balz wrote:
People if you have kept your dr appointments and your dr still deems you disabled then you will not have a problem with a cdr.However if you have not been back to the dr ever since you got your disability then you are going to have major problems.If you are truly disabled and are doing everything your dr tells you then don't let a bunch of these a-holes get on here and try to scare you.The big majority of them draw a check also that's why they have so much free time on their hands.
yeah right. what about the SSA doctors they send you to? they wont take your doctors word alone.
I had eric conn and left the state back in 2001. I have NEVER got a cdr letter. i went to the ss office and told them i didn't want bothered with this shit and she told me it would be taken care of. No cdr letters ever. Others don't get them either.
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Yes, you can get benefits for bipolar disorder and panic attacks. It's more subjective to be allowed for mental conditions than physical, though. One of the best things you can do to get allowed for mental health reasons, aside from having a treatment history from an acceptable medical source, is to have a credible third party or two who can talk to your examiner/adjudicator and give them details about how limited your day-to-day function is.

Also, to the guy in California, just because you have not had a CDR does not mean you won't. It's law that you have to have one every 3 to 7 years. HOWEVER, and this is a big one, whether or not you actually have it that often depends largely on how behind your local SSA office is on pulling cases for review. I regularly saw cases that should have been reviewed every 3 years, but because the SSA office was so behind, it was about 11 years between reviews. Also, if you've over 54, you'll probably never have a CDR. Those are automatically set to a 7 year review, which, if the SSA office is behind, is more like a 20 year review.

Unfortunately, as nice as it would be to say, "Don't bother me with this shit," they won't listen. It's the government! They never listen.
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Leave Conn and John Earl alone.
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Plead the fifth
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Tick, tick, tick. BAM! Did I hear an Explosion, or was it just an Alarm?
LMAO

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Plead the fifth
Drink a fifth.Lol
Watch it for yourself

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Everybody keeps posting links to the transcript but here is a link to the video.

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/event/225482
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US Dept of Justice will bring criminal charges against conn, daugherty and doctors before end of year. SSA will review Conn's cases that have been approved. Do you think a judge will approved cases for Conn in the future? Do you think a doctor will put his ass in a crack for conn in the future?

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