wtf

Pikeville, KY

#25 Oct 20, 2013
Historian wrote:
<quoted text>
Did a little quick fact check. This is cut and paste from Wikipedia:
"Being bounded by the two largest rivers in North America, water transportation has historically played a major role in Kentucky's economy. Most barge traffic on Kentucky waterways consists of coal that is shipped from both the Eastern and Western Coalfields, about half of which is used locally to power many power plants located directly off the Ohio River, with the rest being exported to other countries, most notably Japan.
Many of the largest ports in the United States are located in or adjacent to Kentucky, including:
Port of Huntington-Tristate (includes Ashland, KY), largest inland port and 7th largest overall
Cincinnati-Northern Kentucky, 5th largest inland port and 43rd overall
Louisville-Southern Indiana, 7th largest inland port and 55th overall."
Those railroads that leave the mine headed north are hauling coal to barge terminals on the Ohio River. Without coal there is really no need for the Olmsted Lock and Dam, since there is not enough other barge cargo to justify it. I'm betting that the trains going south are going to barge terminals on the Cumberland or Tennessee Rivers too. If so, that coal also has to pass through Locks 52 and 53 on its way down river, since they are downstream from the mouths of the Tennessee and Cumberland.
Wrong again, the Trains are hauling Coal to Detroit, Cleveland , Pittsburgh, etc

Only Trucks haul to the River Terminals.

Try again you silly Mitch supporter.
Fox News Is A Joke

Pikeville, KY

#26 Oct 20, 2013
sooo wrote:
Obama has failed and should resign.
Turn off the Faux before you are completely Brain Dead.
hmmmmm

Ashland, KY

#28 Oct 22, 2013
Fox News Is A Joke wrote:
The Trains going South are hauling to Duke Power, Georgia Power, Carolina, Florida Power, and Tampa Electric to name a few.
What makes you say that? I don't think they are all still Coal fired plants?
Fox News Is A Joke

Pikeville, KY

#30 Oct 25, 2013
hmmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
What makes you say that? I don't think they are all still Coal fired plants?
Because I can read.
Historian

Kuttawa, KY

#31 Oct 25, 2013
wtf wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong again, the Trains are hauling Coal to Detroit, Cleveland , Pittsburgh, etc
Only Trucks haul to the River Terminals.
Try again you silly Mitch supporter.
I am by no means a Mitch McConnell supporter. I plan to vote for Ms. Grimes.

However, people in eastern Kentucky seem to think that just because the Olmsted Lock and Dam is not physically in eastern Kentucky, then it is not of vital interest to eastern Kentucky. Yet if not for Ohio River transport of eastern Kentucky coal, there would be no need for the lock and dam at Olmsted, because there is very little barge cargo other than coal.
Historian

Kuttawa, KY

#32 Oct 25, 2013
"Roughly 60% of the cargo on the Ohio and its tributaries is coal, 136 million tons in 2009, some 80,000 barges, and about 15% of the nation's coal consumption."

http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2011/12...

I can sit on my back porch and watch those barges loaded with coal pass down the river. I know that the coal in them comes from eastern Kentucky. Yet many people in eastern Kentucky can't seem to grasp that fact. Why?
Historian

Kuttawa, KY

#33 Oct 25, 2013
Stunning fact! More coal passes through those two 100 year old locks, 52 and 53, than is mined in the whole state of Kentucky!

Some figures:

112.9 million tons of coal was mined Kentucky in 2009

136 million tons of coal passed down the Ohio River in 2009

http://www.kentuckycoal.org/documents/Coal%20...
Coal Fired

Clay City, KY

#35 Oct 25, 2013
hmmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
What makes you say that? I don't think they are all still Coal fired plants?
There are still coal fired plants, just fewer of them. Of the 458 or so coal fired plants left we will lose around 230 of them over the next 10 years. Everybody including Mitch Mconnell can have access to Duke Power and TVA long range plans. The reduction off coal usage was in their plans 5 years ago.
Mitch, every state representative from the coal counties and every local politician failed the people as an economy still pushing for nothing but coal even as we started shutting down coal fired plants 5 years ago.
I bet if they were back around the turn of the last century they would have had Friends of Whaling Stickers on their horse drawn buggies. Every Representative from Kentucky and especially from the coal producing counties needs to be working on getting us some non-coal jobs. You can't hang on and just bash Obama until the last truck mine shuts down. The whole region is still in denial.
The coal corporations can take care of themselves and they will as long as it is profitable for them to move Eastern Ky. coal. The politicians that have been supported by them need to get out of the way or get voted out of office. We need people in office that are geared toward non coal job creation, coal money has blinded the ones we have in office now and they are destroying the region.
Eastern Ky. Coal is going away, believe it, get mad about it, cry about it and then get over it!
We need to start trying to take care of ourselves and get the coal dust out of our veins. If this was just a regular slump or downturn in the market I would say stick with coal but anybody know with the IQ of a house plant knows long term eastern Ky Coal is gone. We need to get 100% Coal Severance back for as long as it last and we need to quit wasting it. All the coal severance money from now on needs to go towards non-coal job creation.
We need to see some Friends of the People Stickers on bumpers and Friends of the Unemployed, coal is not your friend and will never be again. Friends of non-coal jobs is the sticker you need on you bumper now and the bumper sticker of the candidate that is fighting for non coal jobs. If there is any money to be made in coal the coal corporations will make it for as long as it last. We need to figure out what the hell we are going to do when the Eastern Coal Market is gone.
This is what happens when you put all your eggs in one basket and let the politicians gather the eggs.
Lucia

Inez, KY

#37 Oct 25, 2013
Fox News Is A Joke wrote:
<quoted text>Turn off the Faux before you are completely Brain Dead.
Tu as une odeur de Le derrière !
Fox News Is A Joke

Pikeville, KY

#39 Oct 26, 2013
Historian wrote:
<quoted text>
I am by no means a Mitch McConnell supporter. I plan to vote for Ms. Grimes.
However, people in eastern Kentucky seem to think that just because the Olmsted Lock and Dam is not physically in eastern Kentucky, then it is not of vital interest to eastern Kentucky. Yet if not for Ohio River transport of eastern Kentucky coal, there would be no need for the lock and dam at Olmsted, because there is very little barge cargo other than coal.
Wrong again, keep trying stupid. Very little of our Coal goes that way.
Fox News Is A Joke

Pikeville, KY

#40 Oct 26, 2013
Historian wrote:
"Roughly 60% of the cargo on the Ohio and its tributaries is coal, 136 million tons in 2009, some 80,000 barges, and about 15% of the nation's coal consumption."
http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2011/12...
I can sit on my back porch and watch those barges loaded with coal pass down the river. I know that the coal in them comes from eastern Kentucky. Yet many people in eastern Kentucky can't seem to grasp that fact. Why?
Because it is a Lie.
Fox News Is A Joke

Pikeville, KY

#41 Oct 27, 2013
Historian wrote:
<quoted text>
I am by no means a Mitch McConnell supporter. I plan to vote for Ms. Grimes.
However, people in eastern Kentucky seem to think that just because the Olmsted Lock and Dam is not physically in eastern Kentucky, then it is not of vital interest to eastern Kentucky. Yet if not for Ohio River transport of eastern Kentucky coal, there would be no need for the lock and dam at Olmsted, because there is very little barge cargo other than coal.
Then there is no need for the Lock and Dam Doofus.
Fox News Is A Joke

Pikeville, KY

#42 Oct 27, 2013
Historian wrote:
Stunning fact! More coal passes through those two 100 year old locks, 52 and 53, than is mined in the whole state of Kentucky!
Some figures:
112.9 million tons of coal was mined Kentucky in 2009
136 million tons of coal passed down the Ohio River in 2009
http://www.kentuckycoal.org/documents/Coal%20...
That is not ky Coal dip wad.
Slow Walking Sad Singing

Clay City, KY

#43 Oct 27, 2013
Only Stupids Vote Mitch wrote:
Mitch has failed the Coal Industry once again. He is only in Washington to get rich the useless pos.
He has done nothing for Eastern Ky ever in 30 Years.
Mitch spent 4 years trying to defeat Obama in the 2012 Election, told the world that was the only job the Republican party had in mind. Yes according to Mitch the Dark Kenyan Muslim destroyed the coal industry, and the country!

Obama would not piss on East Kentucky if it was on fire, ole Mitch made sure of that.

OK, the Half Breed Kenyan killed the Eastern Coal Market, that make you feel better! Simple Fact is it is done "stick a fork in it". Does it matter at this point who killed it? Coal corporations are pulling out of Eastern Kentucky and cutting their losses. Does it make much since for us to invest a lot of money and energy into a dead dying industry? About like giving first aid to a rattle snake, we are just going to get bit "again".

Instead of wasting time on blaming Mitch, Obama and every politician for the last hundred years, work the problem. The question is at this point not who broke it but how can we fix the economy and survive the collapse of the Eastern Ky. Coal Market.
Non-Coal industry and non coal jobs, don't do as we did in the 80's when coal dropped to $20 a ton and we lost half the county population. There will be no Mountain Top Removal and cheap strip coal to save it this time.

We have about a 10 year window to convert this Eastern Ky. economy to a non coal based economy. No time to waste time blaming Obama or Mitch, Mitch takes care of Louisville, Lexington and the other big population centers, he has never done anything for us and Obama don't even know where East Ky. is located. We need to get rid of Mitch and get someone in that cares about East Kentucky even if they are no votes up here. Then we need to make sure our state representatives are working on getting some non coal industry in here or get rid of them. Same thing for the fiscal court.

Coal is dead, they been singing on the point for years! Time to bury the past and move on! If all you people can do is pine and cry over coal for the next 10 years get ready to go back to the late 50's and 60's when this place was so poor when Johnson declared his War On Poverty, most of us hid out in the hills. We thought he was going to come down here and start shooting poor people. Most of the county that had the gumption to work left. Thing is now there is no where to go!

It amazes me how most of the rest of the country makes it without a coal mine and we think it is the end of the world now. Last 30 years individual workers have not got that much from a coal corporation anyway since it takes a lot less men now to mine it. You all are just pissin in the wind with this blame game, it will not produce one coal or non coal job.
question

United States

#47 Oct 28, 2013
Search thw video of obama shutting down coal mines video. This is him speaking on what he wants. Democrats had the number of votes over Mitch search the video obama shutting fown coal mines.
moron u are

United States

#48 Oct 28, 2013
Fox News Is A Joke wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong again, keep trying stupid. Very little of our Coal goes that way.
temper tantrums and anger outburts shows a lack of iq
Fox News Is A Joke

Pikeville, KY

#49 Oct 29, 2013
moron u are wrote:
<quoted text> temper tantrums and anger outburts shows a lack of iq
Then stop doing that Stupid.
mitch is useless

Elkhorn City, KY

#50 Oct 29, 2013
sooo wrote:
You can say the same thing for Obama
Ok, but here is the big difference, how long has Mitch been in office???
How long has he represented the state of KY????
He has seen this come and go thru the years in office, and he has an inside track to the trading and the planning and the payoffs.
He has known for years that coal was on a decline and he did not one damn thing to help save these jobs, and lets step away from coal jobs for a minute. What has he done to bring in industry to replace those lost jobs????
Not one damn thing.
He has sat on his big fat paycheck and pension and his FREE health insurance and all the perks of his job at the taxpayer expense and in 6 years I have heard of him coming to Eastern Ky 2 times, for photo ops.
Taking his very expensive suit coat off to have a beer in a bar, an everyday mans man, what a big joke!!!
We here in the coalfields paid the piper with our coal severance tax, men sweated, cried, lost blood, sleep, family time, and some lost their lives to pay the tax so that Rupp could look prettier for the rich people who go there.
They should at least dedicate it to the lives of the lost coalminers who paid for it.
We here in the coalfields are the last on the list for that money, unless its Upike or some stupid airport that will never benefit the everyday working man.
Yes, Obama has his place in this but Mitch was there long before and he knew the turn this was going to take, yet, where are the industrial jobs, where are any jobs of substance to replace what has been taken from us???
Fox News Is A Joke

Pikeville, KY

#51 Oct 29, 2013
question wrote:
Search thw video of obama shutting down coal mines video. This is him speaking on what he wants. Democrats had the number of votes over Mitch search the video obama shutting fown coal mines.
Learn to spell hicktard.
Economic Disaster Area

Clay City, KY

#53 Oct 31, 2013
Mitch needs to remind Obama that his policies and the EPA did in fact kill the coal industry in Eastern Ky.. No matter if he and the majority of the nation thinks it was for a good cause. The fact is the new clean air standards and surface mine regulations killed the Eastern Ky. coal industry and economy.
Now typically what the U.S. does when they destroy a country they come in and spend billions of U.S. tax payer dollars to rebuild it. They give billions away every year to foreign countries and now need to help rebuild and restore a portion of the U.S. they have destroyed with their policies.
This area has served the nation well when they needed coal to fuel the industrial capacity of the country. Even stuck flags outside mines and were not allowed to strike during WWII when they needed coal for the war effort. Count the number of dead and injured mining coal since the early 1900's. The life blood of Eastern Ky. for 100 years was coal. When your policies come in and destroy the industry in an area you should help with the transition to a non coal economy. They bailed out GM for poor business practices and poor book keeping. They gave Solyndra a company that was supposed to make solar panels 500 billion dollars and never got one watt of power. They gave away 500 billion for their solar power "renewable" energy they are killing our industry with and lost every friggin cent of it.
Declare Eastern Kentucky an economic disaster area because of their carbon policies and give us 100 billion to transition to a non coal economy.
Mitch McConnell, Paul Rand, Hal Rogers, our governer and every representative we have needs to hit this administration hard with this message. You killed it, you are obligated to help fix it.
Beshear just made Obama look good with the way he handled Obama care in Kentucky. The failed Obama Care was pushed and implemented well in Kentucky and Governor Beshear has been all over the networks touting how well the Obamacare works. He should have earned some points with Obama, he carried water for Obama so Obama needs to repay the favor, declare Eastern Kentucky an Economic disaster area because of Government clean air policies and then help fund our transition from coal to a non coal economy.

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