Kid drowning in Pikeville
CommonSense

Ransom, KY

#23 May 17, 2014
accountable wrote:
the home owner and the guardian are both responsible. neither did their job and a child paid for it with his life. the home owner should have had his ass out there watching the kid and the guardian of the child should have too. I have a feeling the adults were too busy socializing to prevent this awful accident. obviously nobody was paying close attention to the pool or the children, most of all this small child. I heard the chid's guardian was given floaties and didn't make the child wear them. the child didn't want to wear them because the other kids didn't have any on and his guardian for the evening didn't make him.even though they were instructed to. that's what I've been told and I believe it. the person trusted with the child must have also left the child unattended. he was smaller and younger than the rest of kids I've heard. Needed special attention due his size and lack of swimming ability and obviously was not watched by anyone. shame on the adults. you know why I am saying, to shame all you people out there do a half ass job watching the children you should be with. all you people that don't want to take the time properly supervising children are like these people.
I agree with your comment. You do not leave any children of that age unattended in a swimming pool. I know the homeowners are feeling bad now, but I can't have too much pity for them. I feel for the family of this deceased child. They are the ones who will never see their child again. God give them the strength to get through this tragedy.
Details

Mount Sterling, KY

#24 May 17, 2014
Many of the adults there should be ashamed.

The reason there are no details on this thread, is because there were no witnesses.

Obviously to be a witness means you have to had watched something, here none of them watched anything, and thats why a child died in these circumstances. ADULT SUPERVISION is not a new concept.

If this was truly a preventable event then the Homeowners should face jail time.

tragicdeath

Richmond, KY

#25 May 18, 2014
road_rage wrote:
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This has nothing to do with gossip. A child lost his life because someone wasn't watching him. I'm sorry if you feel that this discussion is an attack on his parents. I could never imagine losing my child and having to face it every single day. Losing someone doesn't get better with time. It hurts every day. Switch shoes, and put your feet in that babies shoes. That's what I'm talking about. Why are the details so secret? Call it nosey, you have your opinion. I'm on the child's side...someone should be.
I agree with you. The details do seem to be very hush hush, even more so then usual. I want to know why this happened as well. Hearing about an incident like this is terrifying for people with children and we want to know how it can be prevented. I know there are some gossips but for the most part, people don't have to know a child personally to be really upset when one dies a tragic death. The entire community mourns a child. This case is particularly troubling. I'm sure that the family and the people there were good decent people, but a child still managed to drown in front of other children and adults.....that is very odd. I feel greatly for the family too, but want to know what happened to this poor child. I can sympathize with those who become angry about discussion. When I lost somebody close to me I was the same way, I would blow up on people too. But the reason for my anger was that she died in a manner that is looked down upon, and I couldn't bare to hear people talk badly about her. I do sympathize.
Mom

United States

#26 May 18, 2014
Do you people not realize that when someone drowns most of the time you don't know it until it's to late. You can't scream and throw your arms around like you see on TV. Your physiologically unable to scream and your first instinct is to try and breathe. So this child probably just looked like he was playing, most of the time u can't tell someone is actuall drowning unless your a trained professional and then you only have about thirty seconds to get to them. So all u people on here are telling me you have had your eyes glued on your child every second that u haven't taken your eyes off of them for thirty seconds? If you answer yes then your a liar cause even the best of us look of for a second thinking that something like that couldn't happen to our kids in that short amount if time. So make sure u know what your talking about before bashing these poor parents. To the parents, I am so sorry for your loss and I will continue to pray for you all.
tragicdeath

Richmond, KY

#27 May 18, 2014
Details wrote:
Many of the adults there should be ashamed.
The reason there are no details on this thread, is because there were no witnesses.
Obviously to be a witness means you have to had watched something, here none of them watched anything, and thats why a child died in these circumstances. ADULT SUPERVISION is not a new concept.
If this was truly a preventable event then the Homeowners should face jail time.
My understanding is that this particular chilc had a parent/guardian there with him. Maybe they all did. If that's the case, the home owner wasn't the person primarily responsible.
tragicdeath

Richmond, KY

#28 May 18, 2014
Mom wrote:
Do you people not realize that when someone drowns most of the time you don't know it until it's to late. You can't scream and throw your arms around like you see on TV. Your physiologically unable to scream and your first instinct is to try and breathe. So this child probably just looked like he was playing, most of the time u can't tell someone is actuall drowning unless your a trained professional and then you only have about thirty seconds to get to them. So all u people on here are telling me you have had your eyes glued on your child every second that u haven't taken your eyes off of them for thirty seconds? If you answer yes then your a liar cause even the best of us look of for a second thinking that something like that couldn't happen to our kids in that short amount if time. So make sure u know what your talking about before bashing these poor parents. To the parents, I am so sorry for your loss and I will continue to pray for you all.
That's true mom, we cant watch a child every second. But it isn't often that a local child actually dies at a pool party. Kids swallow water or get in trouble sometimes, but to actually be dead in the water with no hope of resuscitation.....that's very frightening. Thats like something straight out of a horror movie and a lot of people's worst nightmare. It's natural for people to have questions. Some like to assign blame, because they feel that if they can identify what somebody did wrong they can have control over something similar happening to them. Someone told me tnat it happened "instantly". Well yeah, drowning only takes seconds but doesn't it take some time to be totally brain dead? If it's truley that easy to drown, then that only makes this even more of a horror story for parents.
tragicdeath

Richmond, KY

#29 May 18, 2014
Okay, I did a little research:
It takes 2-3 minutes after a person has taken their last breath to lose consciousness
Then 5-10 minutes for brain damage to occur
At about 15 minutes, irreversible brain death occurs when enough cells have died

At any point before actual brain death occurs, oxygen can revive a victim

Of course this depends on water temp and physical fitness.
accountable

Ransom, KY

#30 May 18, 2014
okay I wonder how long it should take the average person who accompanies a small child that they know can not swim very well and doesn't wear a life jacket or whatever to remember to watch them the entire time? that's my whole point, this child wasn't supervised by anyone and the average people with one bit of common sense would known to watch them closely from the side of the pool. of course you got to blink and you might get distracted by your own thoughts or the commotion of other kids playing or someone talking to you but it sounds like this child wasn't watched at all by anyone. if mean if you take the child there that is your #1 priority. that's what you're there for. to CAREFULLY watch a small child. if you're doing what you supposed to be doing you;ll notice something aint right within a minute or two. like if they go under and they don't come right back up. if the look on their face shows sign of distress. if they seem to be struggling tired. if they seem to be in deep water. if they are horseplaying. kid wasn't watched at all, I 'd bet on it. he was like a first grader around an underground pool. I have a strong feeling a little too much socializing and not even trying to avoid distraction went on concerning the part of the person that brought the kid there. the home owner should have been out there too. you throw a party or allow your place to be used you do your best to ensure all the children are leave alive.
accountable

Ransom, KY

#31 May 18, 2014
the person there should have had his or her eyes GLUED on the child they brought there, not every child at once. you can keep an eye out for other kids since the child you're watching is likely gonna be close to the other children but your job is to watch the child you brought. damn right you glue your eyes on that child the same way you'd watch like a hawk if you left a big wad of cash laying on the table. I heard alot of time murder victims are found clutching their phones. no doubt it could that theyre calling for help but we all know how important everyone's cellphone is to them. you treat your kids like they're as important to you as your cell phone or wallet full of money or expensive purse and tragic accidents like this happen alot less often. some people would grab their purse or phone before their kid in a house fire. I seen a video where a guy tried to take a lady's purse. she held onto the purse for dear life instead of handing it over and left her child standing there clutching that purse for dear life as she tried to flee. she should have just handed the purse over for the safety of herself and her child but she held tight to the purse and started to walk off from her own kid. this went on for a few minutes. finally the criminal pushed the kid toward her like he was trying to tell her I want your purse, not your kid lady.
tragicdeath

Richmond, KY

#32 May 18, 2014
accountable wrote:
the person there should have had his or her eyes GLUED on the child they brought there, not every child at once. you can keep an eye out for other kids since the child you're watching is likely gonna be close to the other children but your job is to watch the child you brought. damn right you glue your eyes on that child the same way you'd watch like a hawk if you left a big wad of cash laying on the table. I heard alot of time murder victims are found clutching their phones. no doubt it could that theyre calling for help but we all know how important everyone's cellphone is to them. you treat your kids like they're as important to you as your cell phone or wallet full of money or expensive purse and tragic accidents like this happen alot less often. some people would grab their purse or phone before their kid in a house fire. I seen a video where a guy tried to take a lady's purse. she held onto the purse for dear life instead of handing it over and left her child standing there clutching that purse for dear life as she tried to flee. she should have just handed the purse over for the safety of herself and her child but she held tight to the purse and started to walk off from her own kid. this went on for a few minutes. finally the criminal pushed the kid toward her like he was trying to tell her I want your purse, not your kid lady.
I feel the same way you do, I'm just trying really hard not to jump to conclusions because I don't know all the facts and rumors are flying. However, like you I don not understand how this just happened with everyone standing right there. I guess things will be cleared up once the investigation is finished. My first reaction was anger as well.
read this too

Thelma, KY

#35 May 18, 2014
tragicdeath wrote:
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I agree with you. The details do seem to be very hush hush, even more so then usual. I want to know why this happened as well. Hearing about an incident like this is terrifying for people with children and we want to know how it can be prevented. I know there are some gossips but for the most part, people don't have to know a child personally to be really upset when one dies a tragic death. The entire community mourns a child. This case is particularly troubling. I'm sure that the family and the people there were good decent people, but a child still managed to drown in front of other children and adults.....that is very odd. I feel greatly for the family too, but want to know what happened to this poor child. I can sympathize with those who become angry about discussion. When I lost somebody close to me I was the same way, I would blow up on people too. But the reason for my anger was that she died in a manner that is looked down upon, and I couldn't bare to hear people talk badly about her. I do sympathize.
Read this too so you people can understand how this could have happened. I don't know any of the people involved in this; but have enough sense not to jump to conclusions about people "socializing" too much or not paying attention to the kids etc. ad nauseum.

http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-secondary-dro...
NotTheCase

Ransom, KY

#36 May 18, 2014
read this too wrote:
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Read this too so you people can understand how this could have happened. I don't know any of the people involved in this; but have enough sense not to jump to conclusions about people "socializing" too much or not paying attention to the kids etc. ad nauseum.
http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-secondary-dro...
This was not secondary drowning. Did someone not have to drag the child out of the pool to try to resuscitate him? And you are right. No one knows what happened but the adults and children who witnessed the tragedy. But most would think it is odd for a child to drown in front of adults.
read this too

Thelma, KY

#37 May 18, 2014
NotTheCase wrote:
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This was not secondary drowning. Did someone not have to drag the child out of the pool to try to resuscitate him? And you are right. No one knows what happened but the adults and children who witnessed the tragedy. But most would think it is odd for a child to drown in front of adults.
I wasn't there, but I do know that what was in the link can and does happen.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#38 May 18, 2014
NotTheCase wrote:
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This was not secondary drowning. Did someone not have to drag the child out of the pool to try to resuscitate him? And you are right. No one knows what happened but the adults and children who witnessed the tragedy. But most would think it is odd for a child to drown in front of adults.
I wasn't there either but as the link stated this can and does happen, even when lots of people are around.
Parent of 4

Dana, KY

#39 May 19, 2014
tragicdeath wrote:
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That's true mom, we cant watch a child every second. But it isn't often that a local child actually dies at a pool party..........
This is bull crap. I have a pool and no matter if 2 or 5 children come to my pool they are watched and an adult is within 10 feet at all times. No horse play is permitted and they have plenty of fun.

If a child goes under water for pretty much any reason, we are watching.

I know no one is perfect. And I know when too many adults are around someone turns around and faces a different direction for conversation. The problem is when there are too many people, no one individual is watching, they assume someone else is.

That is probably what happened here; too many people in charge and yet no one in charge of watching the kids.

I have a heavy heard, but the truth must be known about what happened.
Past Tense

Richmond, KY

#40 May 19, 2014
I thought Pike County prosecuted people who left their children in cars on hot days, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't a lady charged a few years back because her child had wondered off from home and drowned in an unattended neighbors' pool, and that was in the News Paper.

Why is the identity of homeowners being withheld from the News Paper in this accident ?

Cm'on people a child died !
Worried

Salyersville, KY

#41 May 19, 2014
Look at the address.. Cedar Creek.. Over privileged.. Prob under influence supervision.. Swept under rug..
tragicdeath

Richmond, KY

#42 May 20, 2014
Parent of 4 wrote:
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This is bull crap. I have a pool and no matter if 2 or 5 children come to my pool they are watched and an adult is within 10 feet at all times. No horse play is permitted and they have plenty of fun.
If a child goes under water for pretty much any reason, we are watching.
I know no one is perfect. And I know when too many adults are around someone turns around and faces a different direction for conversation. The problem is when there are too many people, no one individual is watching, they assume someone else is.
That is probably what happened here; too many people in charge and yet no one in charge of watching the kids.
I have a heavy heard, but the truth must be known about what happened.
I have a small child as well as this is very difficult for me to comprehend. I also wonder if there were so many children in the pool that it was complete chaos. Everybody has to watch their own child, you can't just assume somebody else is. I try to keep other kids in mind but my eyes are glued on my baby in these situations. I don't take on more then I can handle either, and I am honest with other parents about the fact that I have little attention to spare for another person's child. Because of this case I got my daughter a pool that only comes up to her waste, and she is getting swimming lessons this summer.
tragicdeath

Richmond, KY

#43 May 20, 2014
Perhaps some of the last responders didn't notice but I never accused anyone of anything. .....just noticing that you directed your responses to me for some reason.
tragicdeath

Richmond, KY

#44 May 20, 2014
read this too wrote:
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Read this too so you people can understand how this could have happened. I don't know any of the people involved in this; but have enough sense not to jump to conclusions about people "socializing" too much or not paying attention to the kids etc. ad nauseum.
http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-secondary-dro...
I have heard of this as well, very scary. But that is not what happened here. They pooled him out of the water.

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