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No New Tax wrote:
Well here we go, another tax added to our property taxes on top of everything else that has been added on over the years. This thing will add hundreds of dollars to our property tax over time. It may start out at $50 or $75 dollars a year but just like the PCBOE they will automatically go in every year or so and raise the fee. with the economy down and fewer people working they are trying to put everything over on the property owner's. This is not a fair tax and should be shared by everyone as fighting fires is not the only service fire departments provide now.
Better fight this one hard and early, once it goes on we will get killed with this one. No NEW TAXES! Highest place in the tri state to live is Pike County and they are making it hard on retired people and people on fixed income's.
It's sad that people think fire departments in this area can just operate completely with scarce funding. I agree the economy is down and taxes are hard on everyone. But where were your people when the county was taking the money from your fire departments? If you don't want your taxes to raise then you should have spoken up earlier to help us out. But again no one wants or needs to think of the operation of a fire department until that need for those guys to arrive. The mere thought that its possible that some fire departments will not be able to fuel their trucks because of the funding cuts, scares me to death, not only because I am a fireman but because my entire family is from Pike County. I don't really know how to fix this. So maybe its time for the people, the tax payers to stand up and tell their elected officials that basic services such as police, fire, and ems should be planned for no matter what.
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Property Owners Unite wrote:
Let the magistrates know if they vote for this fee on our property tax we will not support them in their next election. Enough is enough!
I already give two differnt fire departments and I live in between the two and I am consider to be a dead zone. I've paid enough.
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It's sad that people think fire departments in this area can just operate completely with scarce funding. I agree the economy is down and taxes are hard on everyone. But where were your people when the county was taking the money from your fire departments? If you don't want your taxes to raise then you should have spoken up earlier to help us out. But again no one wants or needs to think of the operation of a fire department until that need for those guys to arrive. The mere thought that its possible that some fire departments will not be able to fuel their trucks because of the funding cuts, scares me to death, not only because I am a fireman but because my entire family is from Pike County. I don't really know how to fix this. So maybe its time for the people, the tax payers to stand up and tell their elected officials that basic services such as police, fire, and ems should be planned for no matter what.
I agree, but they aren,t enough ass-bone in the voters to elect all new faces coming May,we better get some other type of government,because we all are going to need a strip bar by the time this bunch gets done,lots of people can't afford clothing just to pay the fees to live in the Energy Capital much less go see where all the money been spent on the Hatsfields and McToys,10 grand shelters and 100 grand here and there and 2,500 hundred dollar rug at the Longfork community park with a picture of the Magistrate engraved in it,go and find out how much monies where spent in parks and recreations budgets each Magistrate spent not counting the coal severance monies,because you budget amounts for road funds,etc. done mean spent or waste every dime I'm sure it could be carried over and there's numerous of line items that don't even need to be there,at one time maybe when the economy was doing great but It maybe to late to wipe of the smear ,with all understanding it takes a lot of money to operate,but like the poster stated we need these fire depts.funded this is a necessity protection for the public,along with our police,EMS a its sad to say for years it hasn't been looked as a ever day of life,we thought we would never see the day that we had to pay for water and to take a dump not even the Magistrates but guess what the citizens of this Co.pay between 20 to 70 plus a month just for water and working to get potty lines to everyone and that will the same amount for it.
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Well said, firefighter. The problem is with our elected officials whose priorities are seriously out of wack. They spend millions of dollars on usuless projects that cause jobs to be lost, but when it comes to the important things like the securtiy of this country (and I include fire fighters, police, ambulances--anything that saves lives and supports this county) those things are put on the back burner. We can point fingers all we want to, but we elected these idiots in and we can elect them out. It seems though that the citizens of this country could care less. Millions of people will vote for whoever they want to win on American Idol, but they won't go to the poles or write their congress person and tell them what's on their mind. I know this topic is a local issue, but the problem in all over the United States. I think our funding should go first to the people who are on the front lines (and I mean all the same that I mentioned above) before going to save a tadpoe in some swamp somewhere or to support another country's military.
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Pikeville, KY

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Jul 10, 2013
 
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<quoted text>Well since your so much for it,then you should pay everyone's dues!
I didn't recall ever saying I was for it.I said in another post I'm not for more taxes.I just said being affiliated with the fire dept. I can see their side.I agree our elected officials should not allow the departments state funds to be cut by cutting things we don't need.
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I've said it once I've said it a million times, this county can not continue on the same course we have taken over the past 12 years. When we are spending taxpayers dollars on vehicles for magistrates, overnight trips, over inflated salaries, outrageous studies to build new towns, not to mention every time they run short they scream lets tax the people. The deal is these elected officials need to learn to work with the money they got. its not city vs county like they want you to believe in Pike County you have over 43k registered voters I'd say around 60k population overall or there abouts, we can not allow this to continue and if we do going into this next election cycle then folks its no ones fault but our own.
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All we need is another organization such as the PCBOE, Health Dept. Library that can go in and raise our taxes anytime time they get the notion. Same old argument, well it's only 2 or 3 percent of your overall tax bill.
Do the math people when 4 or 5 agencies go in every year or so and raise their portion 2 or 3% it adds up very quickly.

Not another tax fee on our property tax and we need to be trying to get the library off instead of adding another one on. As in most counties or cities the Fire Departments need to be funded out of the City or County General Fund, or from the counties portion of the property tax. There is a need for Fire Protection and the priority to fund it should be above magistrates perks that are used to buy yes votes with on the fiscal court. There should be more people in the county sharing the pain and the cost of an obviously worth while agency. The magistrates if they are such good community minded people and servants of the people should give up their perks to fund the fire departments in their community. If not they should find the savings in other parts of the money we give them. We elect them to be problem solvers and work for their community and the people of pike county. Anybody can go in and create another taxing authority to protect their perks and other nonsense parts of the good ole boy budget. If the magistrates and Judge Exec can't fund the fire departments, we don't need them. Let's get some real public servants in that can provide essential services and live within a very large budget by cutting waste and self serving perks.
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Pikeville, KY

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i think it is time to tell Wayne T and everyone else enough is enough .the poor people budge is tight TOO ,what do we do, we cannot cut back because we have to live.the fire deptment waste money buying thins that they do not need like a car for fire chief to ride everyday for personel use ,park it or sell it that way save money. MYSELF I AM GOING TO VOTE AGAINST ALL OF THEM THEY MAKE BIG MONEY SO THEY DONNOT CARE ABOUT US
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Corbin, KY

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Yea, I look to have a magistrates perk fee added to the property tax next. A Sykes Engineering feasibility fee to pay for all the feasibility studies on projects that never get built and were never meant to be built, just a way to skim off tax payer dollars to the fiscal court mafia.
They tried a 1% occupation tax and the tax payers of Pike County revolted, they all knew they were in trouble if they passed that tax.
Guess what this Fire Fee will cost you almost as much as the occupation tax 5 years out. The added fee to you property tax hurts business in Pike county and individuals as well. We will end up like Detroit one day! They taxed the property owners to death and they all left Detroit and now Detroit is next to Bankruptcy. Everybody that has had the means are getting the hell out now, Tennessee and other low property tax states. This tax needs to be killed before it gets on the books, go after it as hard as we did the occupation tax. They could not pass the occupation tax so come us with another way of doing an end run around the tax payers in Pike County. They figure a Fire Fee will be easier to pass with less controversy than the occupation tax. Has the same effect for the fiscal court, gets the responsibility of funding the fire departments off their backs and put it on the Property Owners. Save that general fund and coal severance budget for their pet projects and doling out the cash to their cronies. I bet they have a feasibility study on putting the fee on the property owners, lets give them something to study on.
You lay this tax on us and you will lose your job, study on that!
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Pikeville, KY

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Taxed to Death wrote:
All we need is another organization such as the PCBOE, Health Dept. Library that can go in and raise our taxes anytime time they get the notion. Same old argument, well it's only 2 or 3 percent of your overall tax bill.
Do the math people when 4 or 5 agencies go in every year or so and raise their portion 2 or 3% it adds up very quickly.
Not another tax fee on our property tax and we need to be trying to get the library off instead of adding another one on. As in most counties or cities the Fire Departments need to be funded out of the City or County General Fund, or from the counties portion of the property tax. There is a need for Fire Protection and the priority to fund it should be above magistrates perks that are used to buy yes votes with on the fiscal court. There should be more people in the county sharing the pain and the cost of an obviously worth while agency. The magistrates if they are such good community minded people and servants of the people should give up their perks to fund the fire departments in their community. If not they should find the savings in other parts of the money we give them. We elect them to be problem solvers and work for their community and the people of pike county. Anybody can go in and create another taxing authority to protect their perks and other nonsense parts of the good ole boy budget. If the magistrates and Judge Exec can't fund the fire departments, we don't need them. Let's get some real public servants in that can provide essential services and live within a very large budget by cutting waste and self serving perks.
I can agree with that we don't need another "authority". After Obama and his EPA put the coal market out of buisness, Wayne Rutherford said a couple meetings ago its been declining (Coal Severance Tax). Sad thing is this has been something happening since what 93 if we have known this much should something not have been done 20 years ago and not wait till election time to be the night in shinning armor. makes me so sick I think I'm gonna put my name on the ballot just to give people an alternative to the same old bull.
Go For It

Corbin, KY

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I think it would be a good campaign slogan and platform. No new taxes on our property! I believe anyone of any character at all could win on that platform,
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Jul 11, 2013
 
Taxed to Death wrote:
All we need is another organization such as the PCBOE, Health Dept. Library that can go in and raise our taxes anytime time they get the notion. Same old argument, well it's only 2 or 3 percent of your overall tax bill.
Do the math people when 4 or 5 agencies go in every year or so and raise their portion 2 or 3% it adds up very quickly.
Not another tax fee on our property tax and we need to be trying to get the library off instead of adding another one on. As in most counties or cities the Fire Departments need to be funded out of the City or County General Fund, or from the counties portion of the property tax. There is a need for Fire Protection and the priority to fund it should be above magistrates perks that are used to buy yes votes with on the fiscal court. There should be more people in the county sharing the pain and the cost of an obviously worth while agency. The magistrates if they are such good community minded people and servants of the people should give up their perks to fund the fire departments in their community. If not they should find the savings in other parts of the money we give them. We elect them to be problem solvers and work for their community and the people of pike county. Anybody can go in and create another taxing authority to protect their perks and other nonsense parts of the good ole boy budget. If the magistrates and Judge Exec can't fund the fire departments, we don't need them. Let's get some real public servants in that can provide essential services and live within a very large budget by cutting waste and self serving perks.
That was WELL SAID.
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Taxed to Death wrote:
Yea, I look to have a magistrates perk fee added to the property tax next. A Sykes Engineering feasibility fee to pay for all the feasibility studies on projects that never get built and were never meant to be built, just a way to skim off tax payer dollars to the fiscal court mafia.
They tried a 1% occupation tax and the tax payers of Pike County revolted, they all knew they were in trouble if they passed that tax.
Guess what this Fire Fee will cost you almost as much as the occupation tax 5 years out. The added fee to you property tax hurts business in Pike county and individuals as well. We will end up like Detroit one day! They taxed the property owners to death and they all left Detroit and now Detroit is next to Bankruptcy. Everybody that has had the means are getting the hell out now, Tennessee and other low property tax states. This tax needs to be killed before it gets on the books, go after it as hard as we did the occupation tax. They could not pass the occupation tax so come us with another way of doing an end run around the tax payers in Pike County. They figure a Fire Fee will be easier to pass with less controversy than the occupation tax. Has the same effect for the fiscal court, gets the responsibility of funding the fire departments off their backs and put it on the Property Owners. Save that general fund and coal severance budget for their pet projects and doling out the cash to their cronies. I bet they have a feasibility study on putting the fee on the property owners, lets give them something to study on.
You lay this tax on us and you will lose your job, study on that!
Please Property Owners Tell Every Property Owner About What Is Trying To Be Done To Us. It Is Not Right and "WE NEED TO LET EVERY FISCAL COURT MEMBER KNOW that WE WILL NOT STAND FOR NO NEW TAXES". If they vote for this TAX ON OUR PROPERTY, Then There Jobs Are "GONE".....
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Do you know that only after one year of being delinquent on your property tax they can auction off your property/tax ticket. Do you know how much another $55 dollars on top of what they are already paying means to older people on a fixed income. Do you know how much another $55 on a property tax means to a disabled person on a fixed income. Do you know how much $55 a month means to a working poor family with kids means and what you can buy with that $55 for you kids, food, shoes!
Do you actually think the $55 dollars will stay $55 dollars over time.

Think about this even if you can now pay the extra $55 fee, think about the time you will be on a fixed retirement income and think about all the people in the county that are already on a fixed income. Think about the Pike County School Tax already has on you property, the Health Dept., the library, all this on top of the what used to be just a straight forward tax on your property. All these add on organizations have boards that can go in on a whim and automatically raise the taxes. Do we need another add on agency that can go in with a wild hair and raise it every year or so. What other agency or organization will jump on the property tax band wagon after this one gets on.

Enough! this has got to stop! The best interest on an investment in town is the 12% interest you get when you buy someone's property tax ticket that can't pay their property tax. Do you think the fiscal court cares if you can't pay your property tax and they auction it off at the court house door. All they care about is shifting parts of their responsibility and parts of their budget off on the property owners,

Stop this new add on fee! No more fee's on our property tax!
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Pikeville, KY

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if it were left up to me I could not stand by knowing that the people of this county were being forced to eat the burden of carrying this budget because the county has no clue how to spend money. Nor could I support a tax on the people to fund the budget when waste is an issue.
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Jul 12, 2013
 
We should be trying to get some of these taxes off the tax tickets. Years ago when the country was booming and times were good and we were swimming in money some of these may have seemed like a good idea at the time.
The Pike County School Tax still is a necessary tax but the ability to raise it anytime they bust out the budget on a girlfriend gone wild has got to stop. Raising the school tax needs to be voted on by the property owners of Pike county. Put the tax on a referendum in a regular election.
The Library tax needs to come off the property tax altogether. Everybody has the internet, WIFI locations everywhere, Kendel Books and other book download devises. Every School has a library and so does the college, no one is hardly ever in that library but the librarians. This is not health and welfare as the Fire Department and Health Department is. Anyone ever hear of taking a no longer viable tax off the tickets and as a last resort put the fire departments on. I don't think the fire departments need to be on the tax tickets because there is enough waste and downright graft savings in the fiscal court budget to fund the fire departments if they want to cut it out and apply it to the higher priority need.
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Jul 12, 2013
 
Breaking it down wrote:
take a look at you property tax tickets, notice how much goes to the state and then notice the portion that goes to the county. The funding for the fire departments is already on the property tax. Since the County took it upon themselves to fund the fire departments the funding is already in the portion of the tax they receive for the property owners. No need to set up a separate fee or tax for property owners and it will only encourage the county to dump the funding to the fire departments altogether. If the county is trying to balance a budget and fund some pet projects they can say take the money we have been spending on the fire departments because they have their own funding authority now. In fact the last fiscal court budget did in fact cut fire departments over programs and projects not worthy of funding or ones that could be cut with less impact than cutting fire departments.
I realize that senior citizens will be a touchy subject but I have seen a lot of abuse of that program. A lot of late 50's and 60's guys just going in for the cheap lunch and gossip that have the means to pay for a meal. I mean men that are working or with good pension incomes. It seems to me that fire protection should take priority over a free lunch for someone that can afford to pay. There are rooms for cuts in all of the county budget and the need to see which programs they can fund or should fund and cuts being made to balance the budget. The fiscal court chose to cut fire departments not magistrates perks that would more than make up for the cuts to the fire departments.
The fiscal court has no business setting up another tax on property owners just to separate or dump their responsibility to fund the fire departments from the money they already receive from the property owners tax receipts.
No new tax, it is not warranted as the fiscal court takes in money from our property tax to fund fire departments. They can't be allowed to set up a separate fee that we will never get off the tickets and one that will grow to complete funding of the fire departments from the fee.
It is important that every property owner understands what is going on, the fiscal court can't dump fire department funding on the property owners through a separate fee. They are already getting money to fund fire departments, they just need to make the fire departments a priority over things like walking parks, magistrate perks, free lunch for the people that don't need it and scores more money savings areas other than fire departments.
The fire tax on your property tax bills goes to the forestry department not the volunteer fire departments.
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It is amazing that there are so many people on here that does not have a clue to what is going on. You need to go to your local fire department and find out what is going on instead of pulling something out of your butt. You might get an insurance company to pay once out of 100 accidents. Most of you think you are so smart, but after reading the post, most are just stupid. Get out and find the facts before you open your mouths.
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Jul 12, 2013
 
Truth is wrote:
It is amazing that there are so many people on here that does not have a clue to what is going on. You need to go to your local fire department and find out what is going on instead of pulling something out of your butt. You might get an insurance company to pay once out of 100 accidents. Most of you think you are so smart, but after reading the post, most are just stupid. Get out and find the facts before you open your mouths.
I think you are the one that is STUPID for thinking that the people of the county are Stupid. A lot of us know some of the SHADY things that go on. TOO MUCH WASTE. That is the problem.
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Jul 12, 2013
 
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<quoted text> I think you are the one that is STUPID for thinking that the people of the county are Stupid. A lot of us know some of the SHADY things that go on. TOO MUCH WASTE. That is the problem.
I agree, there is way to much waste. Trying to get that fixed, well, lets just say good luck with that. In the meantime, we shouldn't do without our fire service. We could do without all the career politicians. There should be a term limit on any and all elected offices. I don't think our founding fathers planned on anyone making a career out of getting votes.

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