Destroying Deconstructionist Revisionism

Destroying Deconstructionist Revisionism

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SWINE SLAYER

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#1 Mar 11, 2013
Ever notice the Liberal Agenda's attempt to deny the Christian (or God-related) origins of The United States Of America, especially when it comes to the three major foundational documents of the United States of America : The Declaration of Independence (July 1776), the Articles of Confederation (drafted 1777, ratified 1781) and the Constitution of the United States of America (1789). There are a total of 143 signatures on these documents, representing 118 different signers.(Some individuals signed more than one document.) These proponents of Deconstructionism usually refer to 2 examples of Deists present in the grouping of The Founding Fathers: Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin and while true that they were Deists, were also members of Episcopalian church congregations. The fact is that America and it's original governing processes were all created with God in mind first and foremost and things were determined with an innate sense of Morality in place. Over time and due to the Secularist Agenda of trying to rewrite American history, including the altering and censoring of historical textbooks in schools to remove any mention of God, including the Founding Father's own quotes about or referring to God. And now we can look about us and see the very results of the Secularists/Atheists actions in the terrible reflection of America as it currently is. Anti-religious fervor, increasing murder and crime rates, a lack of respect for Life and others, the decline of the sanctimony of marriage and the stability of the family unit, the exaltation of ungodliness and reverence for perversion and deviancy, etc., etc. etc.

Anyway, I just thought it would be interesting to provide an individual by individual Christian
affiliation of the actual Religions of The Founding Fathers so that people can see just what a lie
the Secularist Liberal Agenda is trying to program people with when they claim God had nothing to
do with America's original existence when in fact there would be no United States Of America without
Divine Ordinance to begin with. You Secularists, Atheists, and Liberals are welcome..GOD BLESS AMERICA!

http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers...
wtf

Elkhorn City, KY

#2 Mar 11, 2013
SWINE SLAYER wrote:
Ever notice the Liberal Agenda's attempt to deny the Christian (or God-related) origins of The United States Of America, especially when it comes to the three major foundational documents of the United States of America : The Declaration of Independence (July 1776), the Articles of Confederation (drafted 1777, ratified 1781) and the Constitution of the United States of America (1789). There are a total of 143 signatures on these documents, representing 118 different signers.(Some individuals signed more than one document.) These proponents of Deconstructionism usually refer to 2 examples of Deists present in the grouping of The Founding Fathers: Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin and while true that they were Deists, were also members of Episcopalian church congregations. The fact is that America and it's original governing processes were all created with God in mind first and foremost and things were determined with an innate sense of Morality in place. Over time and due to the Secularist Agenda of trying to rewrite American history, including the altering and censoring of historical textbooks in schools to remove any mention of God, including the Founding Father's own quotes about or referring to God. And now we can look about us and see the very results of the Secularists/Atheists actions in the terrible reflection of America as it currently is. Anti-religious fervor, increasing murder and crime rates, a lack of respect for Life and others, the decline of the sanctimony of marriage and the stability of the family unit, the exaltation of ungodliness and reverence for perversion and deviancy, etc., etc. etc.
Anyway, I just thought it would be interesting to provide an individual by individual Christian
affiliation of the actual Religions of The Founding Fathers so that people can see just what a lie
the Secularist Liberal Agenda is trying to program people with when they claim God had nothing to
do with America's original existence when in fact there would be no United States Of America without
Divine Ordinance to begin with. You Secularists, Atheists, and Liberals are welcome..GOD BLESS AMERICA!
http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers...
God Bless your sorry worthless ass.
Historian

Paducah, KY

#3 Mar 11, 2013
Swineslayer:

I have read bigger pots of hogshit, but your's is up there with the biggest.

The danger to this country is its little clique of Christian Reconstructionists who want to turn it into a theocracy, a Christian version of the Taliban.

SWINE SLAYER

“ALL PIGS MUST DIE”

Since: Jan 13

PULL MY PORK! ! !

#4 Mar 11, 2013
Historian wrote:
Swineslayer:
I have read bigger pots of hogshit, but your's is up there with the biggest.
The danger to this country is its little clique of Christian Reconstructionists who want to turn it into a theocracy, a Christian version of the Taliban.
Evidently you got lost somewhere along the way. This thread is about American History that happened centuries ago and the FACTS related to The Founding Fathers. Your unfounded, delusional fears and paranoia focusing on an unreal state of current affairs in America are of no concern to myself or others on this particular thread.

CMN

Since: Mar 11

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#5 Mar 11, 2013
This weekend I watched a rematch of a debate between Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton which appeared on PBS about a year ago. This one was part 2. It may not be available in your area since it was produced here but I understand it will over time be shown on all PBS networks. Here were two of our founders who had opposing views on the nature and structure of our country, one a states' rights advocate, the other a federalist, and still respectful and civil to one another. Both were churchgoers, after all before the constitution it was mandatory. Both paid their taxes, yes, I said TAXES to the church (Anglican/Episcopalian) because before the constitution the church and state, as in England and throughout Europe, was one and the same. Both agreed, even with their diverse views of government, that religion was in the eye or heart of the beholder, not the government. That is why the Bill of Rights lists freedom of religion as a decision for the individual to make. This country was not founded on religious principles but on the right of the individual to self-determination (some bs thrown in there but not about religion). Even the original colonists at Jamestown came here for the same riches the Spanish had found in South America. The Puritans booked passage on the Mayflower, a ship bringing entrepreneurs (an ancestor of mine) to the New World. They are given credit for bringing freedom of religion to this land but they only brought the freedom to practice their own religion, no others tolerated. Our founders felt that it was important that each person choose his/her religious path but that our government must remain neutral on those matters if we were to prosper and grow and provide a beacon of hope and opportunity for the people (more bs)here and those who would come later. Oh, and by the way, these guys were liberals for their time.

SWINE SLAYER

“ALL PIGS MUST DIE”

Since: Jan 13

PULL MY PORK! ! !

#6 Mar 11, 2013
CMN wrote:
This weekend I watched a rematch of a debate between Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton which appeared on PBS about a year ago. This one was part 2. It may not be available in your area since it was produced here but I understand it will over time be shown on all PBS networks. Here were two of our founders who had opposing views on the nature and structure of our country, one a states' rights advocate, the other a federalist, and still respectful and civil to one another. Both were churchgoers, after all before the constitution it was mandatory. Both paid their taxes, yes, I said TAXES to the church (Anglican/Episcopalian) because before the constitution the church and state, as in England and throughout Europe, was one and the same. Both agreed, even with their diverse views of government, that religion was in the eye or heart of the beholder, not the government. That is why the Bill of Rights lists freedom of religion as a decision for the individual to make. This country was not founded on religious principles but on the right of the individual to self-determination (some bs thrown in there but not about religion). Even the original colonists at Jamestown came here for the same riches the Spanish had found in South America. The Puritans booked passage on the Mayflower, a ship bringing entrepreneurs (an ancestor of mine) to the New World. They are given credit for bringing freedom of religion to this land but they only brought the freedom to practice their own religion, no others tolerated. Our founders felt that it was important that each person choose his/her religious path but that our government must remain neutral on those matters if we were to prosper and grow and provide a beacon of hope and opportunity for the people (more bs)here and those who would come later. Oh, and by the way, these guys were liberals for their time.
And yet another off-topic comment is levied here. Once again, the original content of Post #1 here is to provide factual evidence that The Founding Fathers ALL believed in God or observed God-oriented Faith-based doctrines in their own personal, private lives, pure and simple. Once again the Liberal Agenda grows frightened with paranoia that because someone is pointing out that FACT they misconstrue it as some initiative to FORCE a religious ideology on someone and anyone presently here with any common sense can see that just is not the case and usually never is. Just pointing out the TRUTH about America's Founding Fathers!!!

“THE END OF THE AGE”

Since: Feb 13

1 JOHN 2:18

#7 Mar 12, 2013
SWINE SLAYER wrote:
<quoted text>
And yet another off-topic comment is levied here. Once again, the original content of Post #1 here is to provide factual evidence that The Founding Fathers ALL believed in God or observed God-oriented Faith-based doctrines in their own personal, private lives, pure and simple. Once again the Liberal Agenda grows frightened with paranoia that because someone is pointing out that FACT they misconstrue it as some initiative to FORCE a religious ideology on someone and anyone presently here with any common sense can see that just is not the case and usually never is. Just pointing out the TRUTH about America's Founding Fathers!!!
Kudos on such an amazingly factual statement and personal observation, SS. It is such a desperate diversion ploy of the Secularist Atheists that try to frighten everyone to fear some misguided notion that Christians want to force everyone into believing as they (we) do when someone just points out the truth about early America's origins.
Historian

South Fulton, TN

#8 Mar 12, 2013
SWINE SLAYER wrote:
<quoted text>
Evidently you got lost somewhere along the way. This thread is about American History that happened centuries ago and the FACTS related to The Founding Fathers. Your unfounded, delusional fears and paranoia focusing on an unreal state of current affairs in America are of no concern to myself or others on this particular thread.
You may not know it, but you are sure as hell beating the Christian Reconstructionists' drum.

If religious freedom is ever destroyed in the United States it will not be done by secularists or atheists, it will be done by religious fanatics the likes of Gary North, John Hagee, et al, with the support of fools like you.
wtf

Elkhorn City, KY

#9 Mar 12, 2013
CROSS LOGIC wrote:
<quoted text>
Kudos on such an amazingly factual statement and personal observation, SS. It is such a desperate diversion ploy of the Secularist Atheists that try to frighten everyone to fear some misguided notion that Christians want to force everyone into believing as they (we) do when someone just points out the truth about early America's origins.
You Christian deadbeat pos are hilarious.

Now BS some more you devout idiots.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#10 Mar 12, 2013
SS, these people are using tactics from the handbook of socialists, always put the debater on the defensive, change the subject to benefit the offensive but i notice you dont succumb to their tactics, pointing out the topics these others bring in goes off the original topic. same as getting the ball away from the opponent in basketball. religion freedom was always taken away by governments, not Gary Norths, John Hagees and support. Government. Who keeps the Vietnamese under the boot heel, government. who sent Christians and Jews to the ovens, government. Who banned Jews from the Isles and European countries. yep, government. the list goes on, government, government, government. government atheists in Russia tried to destroy the Church but it's stronger today than ever.
Dumb

Ransom, KY

#11 Mar 12, 2013
dunadd wrote:
SS, these people are using tactics from the handbook of socialists, always put the debater on the defensive, change the subject to benefit the offensive but i notice you dont succumb to their tactics, pointing out the topics these others bring in goes off the original topic. same as getting the ball away from the opponent in basketball. religion freedom was always taken away by governments, not Gary Norths, John Hagees and support. Government. Who keeps the Vietnamese under the boot heel, government. who sent Christians and Jews to the ovens, government. Who banned Jews from the Isles and European countries. yep, government. the list goes on, government, government, government. government atheists in Russia tried to destroy the Church but it's stronger today than ever.
Keep talking to yourself there legend!
CMN

United States

#12 Mar 12, 2013
SWINE SLAYER wrote:
<quoted text>
And yet another off-topic comment is levied here. Once again, the original content of Post #1 here is to provide factual evidence that The Founding Fathers ALL believed in God or observed God-oriented Faith-based doctrines in their own personal, private lives, pure and simple. Once again the Liberal Agenda grows frightened with paranoia that because someone is pointing out that FACT they misconstrue it as some initiative to FORCE a religious ideology on someone and anyone presently here with any common sense can see that just is not the case and usually never is. Just pointing out the TRUTH about America's Founding Fathers!!!
I most certainly responded to the premise that you posed with the words that at least two of our founders used to describe their thoughts when creating our government. "God" was not on of them, even though both had a religious affiliation. You provided a link to a list of "Founding Fathers" and their religious affiliations. Yes, 204 founders were associated with a religion but you must really stop and think what that data truly means. The majority were Anglican/Episcopalian, Presbyterian or Congregationalists. All these church groups were government sponsored and coerced upon the specific colonies (Anglican: Virginia, NC; Congregationalist: New England) Even Dutch Reform was the official religion of parts of New York and PA. Catholics were reviled in all colonies except MD, so their representatives had to be of that religion. All the 204 founders who signed all the government forming documents were associated with a state religion with few exceptions. Quakers were the most devoutly true believers and the most liberal where individual rights were concerned. Hugenots came to this country to escape Catholicism in France and chose to become Protestant. Notice there were few Methodists and no Baptists because those denominations had barely come into existence, since they were not government sponsored and in many places were illegal to join (unless you paid a hefty tax to be a dissenter). When it comes down to it, God played no role in our founders' lives, only state-controlled religion did.

SWINE SLAYER

“ALL PIGS MUST DIE”

Since: Jan 13

PULL MY PORK! ! !

#13 Mar 12, 2013
dunadd wrote:
SS, these people are using tactics from the handbook of socialists, always put the debater on the defensive, change the subject to benefit the offensive but i notice you dont succumb to their tactics, pointing out the topics these others bring in goes off the original topic. same as getting the ball away from the opponent in basketball. religion freedom was always taken away by governments, not Gary Norths, John Hagees and support. Government. Who keeps the Vietnamese under the boot heel, government. who sent Christians and Jews to the ovens, government. Who banned Jews from the Isles and European countries. yep, government. the list goes on, government, government, government. government atheists in Russia tried to destroy the Church but it's stronger today than ever.
Glad to see others here such as yourself that are able to see through their tactics and attempted hijacks of focus away from this thread's actual original issue. It's a Liberal-biased misconstrued idea to somehow try to equate any Religion-oriented discussion as somehow being an attempt to "force" a religious ideology on everyone else or a cause to make some absurd claim that thankfully Government is there to protect us all from some paranoid delusion that Christians are trying to take over the Government and enforce some State-based Religion. Tall about the REAL Conspiracy
Theorists..it's the demented Liberals dreaming up the most insane improbabilities of them all,
LOL! The truth is Liberals have created a Belief System aka "Religion" (albeit a truly Godless
one) all their own and they want to program everyone else to believe in it as they themselves do
and it appears that if they had their way, no one would be allowed to practice or follow any Christian religious theology..anything BUT evidently.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#14 Mar 13, 2013
the only religion these people want to stifle and destroy is Christianity. these wouldn't care if muslims built a mosque at ground zero. they can practice islam, satanism, Hinduism, communism, Buddhism, nazism and all the myriad of religions but anything to do, even remotely, with Christianity, all hell breaks loose and they howl to the top of their lungs. One can celebrate Ramadan, that's alright but put a Christmas tree on display, all hell breaks loose. that is the reason they had to allow nazis to march in Jewish neighbourhoods of Skokie, Illinois. if one group is stifled for any reason, that leads to government stifling and choosing who they want to stifle and who not. Kristallnacht occurred with government sanction, leading and guiding.

SWINE SLAYER

“ALL PIGS MUST DIE”

Since: Jan 13

PULL MY PORK! ! !

#15 Mar 13, 2013
dunadd wrote:
the only religion these people want to stifle and destroy is Christianity. these wouldn't care if muslims built a mosque at ground zero. they can practice islam, satanism, Hinduism, communism, Buddhism, nazism and all the myriad of religions but anything to do, even remotely, with Christianity, all hell breaks loose and they howl to the top of their lungs. One can celebrate Ramadan, that's alright but put a Christmas tree on display, all hell breaks loose. that is the reason they had to allow nazis to march in Jewish neighbourhoods of Skokie, Illinois. if one group is stifled for any reason, that leads to government stifling and choosing who they want to stifle and who not. Kristallnacht occurred with government sanction, leading and guiding.
Amen, Dun! There is a Liberally-based Secularist/Atheist attack taking place against Christianity altogether just as you point out. It began in the public school systems and has now spilled over into nearly all aspects of our society. Sure, you can practice ANYTHING as long as it's NOT Christianity and it's okay for many schools to now teach a pro-LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bi-Sexual, Transgendered) curriculum but do NOT mention God in school in anyway. Those same schools have altered and rewritten U.S. History books to support THEIR stances and views and just as we have observed on this thread, do their best to altogether DENY known historical FACT of early America's origins.

Meanwhile, towns become incensed with anger over Nativity displays at Christmas or Christmas trees like you said, or over someone telling someone else "Merry Christmas" (as I was told a few months ago was an attempt to "force religion" on someone else if you told them that..absurd!) We have towns that get sued so they'll remove the Christian cross from their town seals that have been in place for centuries (see story below) and other outright persecutions of Christians that are based in bigotry, prejudice, and utter hypocrisy.

http://www.persecution.org/2012/12/02/kansas-...
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#17 Mar 14, 2013
if they place the crescent moon on any flag or seal in the US will be fine but anything to do with Christianity is a nono. Centuries before Holocaust in Europe, they were using Christians as victims of sporting events and human torches in Europe and the earlier Roman Empire days. Welcome to the 21st century where mankind is so much more enlightened and would not stoop to such antics. i hope everyone reads the satire and sarcasm in that previous sentence. The days of the Roman Empire and Third Reich are over and will never happen again and if you believe that, Michael Bloomberg will sell you some mountaintop property in Manhattan. The US is falling inside out. the world now has an American Pope. When someone said the next pope could be American, they took it for granted they meant one from the United States. Latinos look at America as the entire Land Mass from the Arctic Circle to the Tierra del Fuego. they consider Hugo Chavez as much American as any citizen of the United States but people of the United States see it differently. to the people of the States, one must be born in the US to be American whereas Latinos look at America as i stated, from Circle to Cape. So, indeed, they did elect an American Pope, Latin American and Jesuit at that.

“THE END OF THE AGE”

Since: Feb 13

1 JOHN 2:18

#19 Mar 17, 2013
dunadd wrote:
if they place the crescent moon on any flag or seal in the US will be fine but anything to do with Christianity is a nono. Centuries before Holocaust in Europe, they were using Christians as victims of sporting events and human torches in Europe and the earlier Roman Empire days. Welcome to the 21st century where mankind is so much more enlightened and would not stoop to such antics. i hope everyone reads the satire and sarcasm in that previous sentence. The days of the Roman Empire and Third Reich are over and will never happen again and if you believe that, Michael Bloomberg will sell you some mountaintop property in Manhattan. The US is falling inside out. the world now has an American Pope. When someone said the next pope could be American, they took it for granted they meant one from the United States. Latinos look at America as the entire Land Mass from the Arctic Circle to the Tierra del Fuego. they consider Hugo Chavez as much American as any citizen of the United States but people of the United States see it differently. to the people of the States, one must be born in the US to be American whereas Latinos look at America as i stated, from Circle to Cape. So, indeed, they did elect an American Pope, Latin American and Jesuit at that.
America is going to reap what it has sewn in due time, we can see it beginning to form even now as irrationality and perversion have overtaken this land to a point where many people blatantly reject Truth and common sense despite what's right before their very eyes. Speaking of crescent moons, do you know that Obama's pick to head the CIA, John Brennan was sworn in recently but did not take his Oath of Office on a Bible. Joe Biden swore him in on a "first draft" of The Constitution which ironically did NOT include The Bill Of Rights at the time of it's original drafting. There's several possible indications and symbolism in this very act if we will inspect it closer, especially since it's been widely reported that Brennan had converted to Islam when he served in an official capacity on the behalf of the United States in Saudi Arabia in the 1990s. That would explain his choice to not use a Bible as well as explain why he chose THAT particular draft of The Constitution. Islamic extremists/sympathizers accept neither Christianity or Individual Rights of course.
Your logic is cross

Pikeville, KY

#20 Mar 17, 2013
SWINE SLAYER wrote:
<quoted text>
And yet another off-topic comment is levied here. Once again, the original content of Post #1 here is to provide factual evidence that The Founding Fathers ALL believed in God or observed God-oriented Faith-based doctrines in their own personal, private lives, pure and simple. Once again the Liberal Agenda grows frightened with paranoia that because someone is pointing out that FACT they misconstrue it as some initiative to FORCE a religious ideology on someone and anyone presently here with any common sense can see that just is not the case and usually never is. Just pointing out the TRUTH about America's Founding Fathers!!!
Nothing off topic about the post.
The point is that whatever the founders thought about god matters not. They seen fit to keep the government from dictating religion. They stood for a persons right to choose. This is something that the christian right wants to do. Is force christianity down everyones throat.
wtf

Elkhorn City, KY

#21 Mar 17, 2013
dunadd wrote:
the only religion these people want to stifle and destroy is Christianity. these wouldn't care if muslims built a mosque at ground zero. they can practice islam, satanism, Hinduism, communism, Buddhism, nazism and all the myriad of religions but anything to do, even remotely, with Christianity, all hell breaks loose and they howl to the top of their lungs. One can celebrate Ramadan, that's alright but put a Christmas tree on display, all hell breaks loose. that is the reason they had to allow nazis to march in Jewish neighbourhoods of Skokie, Illinois. if one group is stifled for any reason, that leads to government stifling and choosing who they want to stifle and who not. Kristallnacht occurred with government sanction, leading and guiding.
You can celebrate your ignorance. You do have an abundance.

“THE END OF THE AGE”

Since: Feb 13

1 JOHN 2:18

#22 Mar 17, 2013
Your logic is cross wrote:
<quoted text>Nothing off topic about the post.
The point is that whatever the founders thought about god matters not. They seen fit to keep the government from dictating religion. They stood for a persons right to choose. This is something that the christian right wants to do. Is force christianity down everyones throat.
That delusion is nothing to the perversely repugnant and vile reality of what YOU force into children's mouths and rear-ends, huh you vile, sickening deviant freak, WTF. You force children to horrific abuse and molestation as you destroy their innocence and shatter their lives forever and YOU shall not escape the righteous wrath of God Almighty when YOU face
Him on Judgement Day.

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