Pikeville Cmmercial Airservice

Pikeville Cmmercial Airservice

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Safety First

Macon, GA

#1 Jul 15, 2014
Things have been extremely quite for sometime about this project. And it appears that is about to change quickly with a big news announcement by the city slickers and their hired agent.

The holdup appears to have been the desire of the city to avoid Part 139 Certification of the airport. And I urge all of the public to educate yourself with what Part 139 Certification by the FAA means and does for the public. My opinion is that it ensures that the airport is safe to fly to and from in a commercial service as well oversees safety equipment and the training of the personnel that we depend on to operate that equipment.

For instance the Part 139 Certification requires minimum overrun distances beyond the end of paved runways to protect the public in case of brake failures or other issues that result in the need of additional runway area. I have read that Part 139 Certification requires 1000 feet of area beyond the runway for safety. I ask that the public inquire with airport personnel how much distance the Pikeville Airport has beyond the ends of its runways. I think you will find one end only has 300 + feet and beyond that is a drop off the mountain. That will create a serious matter if there is issues on takeoff roll-out or on landing. Particularly when the runway is wet or slick and braking is limited. Educate yourself on how long the runways are at Pikeville and how much runway is required for a Jetstream 31/32 Propeller Plane for takeoff and landing. It is for this reason that Part 139 Certification is important.

So my question is why did the city fight to have the air service excluded from the Part 139 FAA Certification process? Why fight to avoid safety measures that are in place to protect the passengers that will be flying? Sadly many of the public take for granted that because its commercial service then it provides the same safety of larger airports like Louisville, Lexington and Charleston just to mention a few. Just because there is TSA on site that doesn't provide safety on the field should there be an incident. Ask what type of crash response equipment will be on the field and what type of training the personnel will have. This is something that Part 139 addresses. Part 139 requires more than a general water spraying fire truck manned by EMT personnel. So please educate yourself on the Part 139 Certification and ask yourself then if your family is important enough to risk on a service without those FAA requirements in place.

This post consists entirely of my opinion and is intended to be informative.
TJbutterbean

Martin, KY

#2 Jul 15, 2014
Safety First wrote:
Things have been extremely quite for sometime about this project. And it appears that is about to change quickly with a big news announcement by the city slickers and their hired agent.
The holdup appears to have been the desire of the city to avoid Part 139 Certification of the airport. And I urge all of the public to educate yourself with what Part 139 Certification by the FAA means and does for the public. My opinion is that it ensures that the airport is safe to fly to and from in a commercial service as well oversees safety equipment and the training of the personnel that we depend on to operate that equipment.
For instance the Part 139 Certification requires minimum overrun distances beyond the end of paved runways to protect the public in case of brake failures or other issues that result in the need of additional runway area. I have read that Part 139 Certification requires 1000 feet of area beyond the runway for safety. I ask that the public inquire with airport personnel how much distance the Pikeville Airport has beyond the ends of its runways. I think you will find one end only has 300 + feet and beyond that is a drop off the mountain. That will create a serious matter if there is issues on takeoff roll-out or on landing. Particularly when the runway is wet or slick and braking is limited. Educate yourself on how long the runways are at Pikeville and how much runway is required for a Jetstream 31/32 Propeller Plane for takeoff and landing. It is for this reason that Part 139 Certification is important.
So my question is why did the city fight to have the air service excluded from the Part 139 FAA Certification process? Why fight to avoid safety measures that are in place to protect the passengers that will be flying? Sadly many of the public take for granted that because its commercial service then it provides the same safety of larger airports like Louisville, Lexington and Charleston just to mention a few. Just because there is TSA on site that doesn't provide safety on the field should there be an incident. Ask what type of crash response equipment will be on the field and what type of training the personnel will have. This is something that Part 139 addresses. Part 139 requires more than a general water spraying fire truck manned by EMT personnel. So please educate yourself on the Part 139 Certification and ask yourself then if your family is important enough to risk on a service without those FAA requirements in place.
This post consists entirely of my opinion and is intended to be informative.
when it's in the air you'll whine that they don't show an inflight movie
Luke S Donovan B

Georgetown, IN

#3 Jul 16, 2014
This air service is a joke. It's just a money grab and another grand project so Donovan and Rubber Stamp Gang can try to keep bragging and keep the con games going.
Powwow

La Follette, TN

#4 Jul 16, 2014
TJbutterbean wrote:
<quoted text>when it's in the air you'll whine that they don't show an inflight movie
Damn thing has to get in the air safely first.
Not a Naysayer

Pikeville, KY

#5 Jul 17, 2014
Why does the city require health department inspections of restaurants?????

Then why do they want to avoid the FAA part 139 safety inspections and safety measures?????

They want to protect us from green wieners but paid a Washington attorney to side step the FAA safety measures in part 139.
Droopy

Pikeville, KY

#6 Jul 17, 2014
The city is full of knowledgable aviation people and they will secure the airport with Barney Fife and Gomer Pyle to run the crash management equipment.

Seriously folks lets not allow the city to ensure the safety of our children flying out of a non FAA secured 139 airport.
Tim

Fishers, IN

#7 Jul 19, 2014
Better fly quick. This will go belly up in a year.
I will drive my family

Rock Creek, WV

#8 Jul 19, 2014
It's scary when politicians and their puppets can pull strings in Washington to help them justify their huge waste of the public's money on "self glorifying" ventures. Very scary.

When a highly touted SCHEDULED air service (airport in this issue) can get by many required FAA rules of safety by attesting that the same "scheduled" service is not actually "scheduled" and therefore does not justify installing safety equipment, training and features required at "real airports".......... we should be afraid...very afraid.

Ask the city mouthpiece......"Are we going to have a regularly "scheduled" air service or a service which is sneakily "scheduled" at the beginning of each day and every day for as long as we, the tax payer, throw our own money at it?"

This post reflects my own opinion after carefully researching information I am allowed to access. Many things have been kept secret from the airport board and us, the taxpayers who will have to pay, as we already have been, for this screw up.

All their childish "KGB like" secrecy and sneaking around are very, very suspicious to say it lightly. What could they possibly be hiding from the airport board and the taxpayer?
illegal foreclosure

Winchester, KY

#9 Jul 19, 2014
Sounds a lot like the courthouse fresh out of d batteries. This place has no greyhound terminal y'all really think you gonna get an exit plan?? ya checked the fusion center ray Jones put by the EMS fire behind the Walmart?? Someone is next for what my family has been put through. When they think they've beaten is they'll come after one of you
Possible Flyer

Louisville, KY

#10 Jul 19, 2014
I will drive my family wrote:
It's scary when politicians and their puppets can pull strings in Washington to help them justify their huge waste of the public's money on "self glorifying" ventures. Very scary.
When a highly touted SCHEDULED air service (airport in this issue) can get by many required FAA rules of safety by attesting that the same "scheduled" service is not actually "scheduled" and therefore does not justify installing safety equipment, training and features required at "real airports".......... we should be afraid...very afraid.
Ask the city mouthpiece......"Are we going to have a regularly "scheduled" air service or a service which is sneakily "scheduled" at the beginning of each day and every day for as long as we, the tax payer, throw our own money at it?"
This post reflects my own opinion after carefully researching information I am allowed to access. Many things have been kept secret from the airport board and us, the taxpayers who will have to pay, as we already have been, for this screw up.
All their childish "KGB like" secrecy and sneaking around are very, very suspicious to say it lightly. What could they possibly be hiding from the airport board and the taxpayer?
Will the airport in Pikeville have the same safety measures in place as Lexington?

If my family is on Appalachian Air and it crashes on landing will we have the same rescue and survival response team as those flying into Lexington?
Another flyer

Pikeville, KY

#11 Jul 20, 2014
Possible Flyer wrote:
<quoted text>
Will the airport in Pikeville have the same safety measures in place as Lexington?
If my family is on Appalachian Air and it crashes on landing will we have the same rescue and survival response team as those flying into Lexington?
I asked the same question and was told "absolutelty not". My understanding is that it will only be a part 135 operation about like the one in Hazard now. They'll just have a bigger airplane, with TSA there to check baggage and clear passengers.
yellowbelly

Martin, KY

#12 Jul 24, 2014
I would not fly
yellowbelly

Martin, KY

#13 Jul 24, 2014
I'm afraid of heights

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