Women should not have equal rights.

Women should not have equal rights.

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Men

United States

#1 Jul 17, 2014
Why should women have equal rights?when there a war they whine and find a way to get out of it.So why should they be allow to vote and have jobs?
True

United States

#3 Jul 17, 2014
All women do is whine about equal rights then when they go to court they get off scot free because they whine and talk about how there just a little woman and can't do nothing like that but when a man go to court women make a big deal about how they did it and need to go to jail.
Jack

Pikeville, KY

#4 Jul 17, 2014
Possibly they deserve equal rights because they are literate and can use proper grammar and punctuation,
lol

Virgie, KY

#5 Jul 17, 2014
Jack wrote:
Possibly they deserve equal rights because they are literate and can use proper grammar and punctuation,
I agree :)
Ginger

United States

#6 Jul 18, 2014
Jack wrote:
Possibly they deserve equal rights because they are literate and can use proper grammar and punctuation,
they don't because all they do iewhine about equal rights and get mad when they don't get specale treatment so why should they?
Jack

Pikeville, KY

#7 Jul 18, 2014
Sounds like you are the one "eiwhine"ing wanting to be treated "specale". I will state again, they deserve equal rights because of their ability to spell, use proper grammar and punctuation. You are advertising your ignorance. If you were interested in improving yourself, there are classes available for adult illiterates.

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Since: Mar 14

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#8 Jul 19, 2014
I fully support total Equality for women in all things and that includes pay
and salaries but I will say that if things are going to be "equal" then make
them fully EQUAL. For instance, Women are not expected to pass the same exact physical requirements that men are to enter military service so they are given a less-strenuous course of tests. That is NOT equal now
is it? If women want true equality in all things they should be expected to perform the same exact things that males are and not given preferential exceptions.
Heisenberg

Atlanta, GA

#9 Jul 19, 2014
I am for equal rights for women but I bet they dont receive equal treatment. For example I bet more women get out of speeding tickets than men.

“lmao I'm a flamer”

Since: Nov 10

Point Pleasant, WV

#10 Jul 19, 2014
The Americancer wrote:
I fully support total Equality for women in all things and that includes pay
and salaries but I will say that if things are going to be "equal" then make
them fully EQUAL. For instance, Women are not expected to pass the same exact physical requirements that men are to enter military service so they are given a less-strenuous course of tests. That is NOT equal now
is it? If women want true equality in all things they should be expected to perform the same exact things that males are and not given preferential exceptions.
You're talking anatomy. And we are not equal in that aspect because it's a proven fact that men have more muscle mass than do women. It's fair judging by physical tests. Equality is a mental ability, not judged on physical standards.

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Since: Mar 14

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#11 Jul 19, 2014
road_rage wrote:
<quoted text>
You're talking anatomy. And we are not equal in that aspect because it's a proven fact that men have more muscle mass than do women. It's fair judging by physical tests. Equality is a mental ability, not judged on physical standards.
Equality is not merely defined by mental abilities though and to make something more lenient for someone because of their gender renders it INEQUAL, now doesn't it? Not trying to be a dick but if equality is truly going to be equal for all then that is exactly what it needs to be. For example, if a woman is going to be a Firefighter and expects the same salary as her male counterparts then she should be able to perform the same exact tasks as they do or expect some type of differential
pay if she cannot.

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Since: Nov 10

Point Pleasant, WV

#12 Jul 19, 2014
The Americancer wrote:
<quoted text>Equality is not merely defined by mental abilities though and to make something more lenient for someone because of their gender renders it INEQUAL, now doesn't it? Not trying to be a dick but if equality is truly going to be equal for all then that is exactly what it needs to be. For example, if a woman is going to be a Firefighter and expects the same salary as her male counterparts then she should be able to perform the same exact tasks as they do or expect some type of differential
pay if she cannot.
Just because a woman can not do as many push ups as a man does not make her any less qualified for the job. Yes, it takes strength for such jobs as firefighting. The power and force pushed through a fire hose is just incredible. But, In certain jobs, it isn't necessary to use every ounce of muscle that you have. Body building, but that's not a job, is it? In order for a woman to be truly "equal" to a man in a physical sense, she would have to work twice as hard for her strength as a man would to be just on the same level. Is that fair? Seems to be something made up from an egotistical male who became pissed because a woman rose above. No double standards. If a woman truly wants to be equal, no holding back. He sets her up to fail. They tried to let go of the double standard back in January, I think, in the military. But, the women couldn't pass. Those that can, will push their bodies to a breaking point. Point blank, women aren't designed for such "equality".

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#13 Jul 19, 2014
That is pretty much my point though..men and women are NOT equal...and there's nothing wrong that either. The only reason it's pushed as an "issue" is because it is yet another Liberal Agenda-pushed idea that we are all somehow androgynous and non-different in any way i.e. no male, no female, just all the same automatons.
berry girl

United States

#14 Jul 19, 2014
The Americancer wrote:
That is pretty much my point though..men and women are NOT equal...and there's nothing wrong that either. The only reason it's pushed as an "issue" is because it is yet another Liberal Agenda-pushed idea that we are all somehow androgynous and non-different in any way i.e. no male, no female, just all the same automatons.
While not implying anything, it is interesting to note that in each of your posts you never mentioned the inequality in our justice system which, unquestionably, favors women. If you are a man, try accusing a woman, or women, of rape and see how seriously your claim is taken. If you are a man accused of murdering your wife do not use your honest defense in court of being a battered husband. If you are a female teacher, take liberties with students knowing you will get a slap on the wrist and revocation of your teachers license in any court case, whereas a male teacher doing the same could possibly, in some states, find himself on death row. If you are a man of limited means, then God help you if you are in any litigation with your very wealthy wife. I do wish you well.

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Since: Mar 14

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#15 Jul 20, 2014
berry girl wrote:
<quoted text>
While not implying anything, it is interesting to note that in each of your posts you never mentioned the inequality in our justice system which, unquestionably, favors women. If you are a man, try accusing a woman, or women, of rape and see how seriously your claim is taken. If you are a man accused of murdering your wife do not use your honest defense in court of being a battered husband. If you are a female teacher, take liberties with students knowing you will get a slap on the wrist and revocation of your teachers license in any court case, whereas a male teacher doing the same could possibly, in some states, find himself on death row. If you are a man of limited means, then God help you if you are in any litigation with your very wealthy wife. I do wish you well.
All of those are great examples of both double-standards and an implied sense of "preferential treatment", all of which help support my position that men and women are NOT equal in most
arenas.

CMN

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#16 Jul 21, 2014
All human beings are born equal, regardless of gender, race, stature, mental capability, muscle strength, or any other irrelevant traits you try to use as reasons to deny equality. And therein lies inequality. Every human being has the right to life (real persons, that is) and the liberty to pursue his/her own way in the world. Yet, everywhere abounds beings who have taken it upon themselves to deny those unalienable rights to their fellow human beings, using those above mentioned arbitrary means. I await the response that inequality was decided by god because the Bible says so, never grasping the idea that "God" was a creation of those who wanted power over others and devised a supernatural being who gave them that authority. Duh! Now go on, tell me how "God" created woman as secondary to man, her only role in life to bare and raise his children. Then tell me how that restriction on women has not passed through the ages even into our own laws in this country, the land of the free. All women are denied their basic human rights in every land on earth, even this one. Then whine about how she is given custody of her own children (only if she gets a good lawyer) after a divorce........after all, it is her relegated life's work, is it not?
berry girl

United States

#17 Jul 21, 2014
CMN wrote:
All human beings are born equal, regardless of gender, race, stature, mental capability, muscle strength, or any other irrelevant traits you try to use as reasons to deny equality. And therein lies inequality. Every human being has the right to life (real persons, that is) and the liberty to pursue his/her own way in the world. Yet, everywhere abounds beings who have taken it upon themselves to deny those unalienable rights to their fellow human beings, using those above mentioned arbitrary means. I await the response that inequality was decided by god because the Bible says so, never grasping the idea that "God" was a creation of those who wanted power over others and devised a supernatural being who gave them that authority. Duh! Now go on, tell me how "God" created woman as secondary to man, her only role in life to bare and raise his children. Then tell me how that restriction on women has not passed through the ages even into our own laws in this country, the land of the free. All women are denied their basic human rights in every land on earth, even this one. Then whine about how she is given custody of her own children (only if she gets a good lawyer) after a divorce........after all, it is her relegated life's work, is it not?
Your last statements are noteworthy, yet not because, "All women...whine about...custody" What you did not mention is that it is the children's father who will pay for the mother's "...regulated life's work". The mother not only collects the checks but can also appeal to the court for increases in these child payments with little or no oversight as to how the mother spends the money. If the father can not pay or will not pay then he goes to prison. What is interesting is that anyone who donates sperm can now be taken to court for child support although in many states laws have been introduced to protect the men. I do wish you well.
berry girl

United States

#18 Jul 21, 2014
CMN wrote:
All human beings are born equal, regardless of gender, race, stature, mental capability, muscle strength, or any other irrelevant traits you try to use as reasons to deny equality. And therein lies inequality. Every human being has the right to life (real persons, that is) and the liberty to pursue his/her own way in the world. Yet, everywhere abounds beings who have taken it upon themselves to deny those unalienable rights to their fellow human beings, using those above mentioned arbitrary means. I await the response that inequality was decided by god because the Bible says so, never grasping the idea that "God" was a creation of those who wanted power over others and devised a supernatural being who gave them that authority. Duh! Now go on, tell me how "God" created woman as secondary to man, her only role in life to bare and raise his children. Then tell me how that restriction on women has not passed through the ages even into our own laws in this country, the land of the free. All women are denied their basic human rights in every land on earth, even this one. Then whine about how she is given custody of her own children (only if she gets a good lawyer) after a divorce........after all, it is her relegated life's work, is it not?
After rereading your post, I noticed an obvious error many do make. It is simply using the word equal to justify a certain logic. Equal is not always a logical idea. If you had written that, "All human beings are born with the right to life, liberty and to the pursuit of happiness, regardless of gender..." I would have believed you understood that even today, as do gays, men of color do not consider themselves equal to an Anglo-Saxon person, male or female. You do write of life, liberty an "unalienable rights" yet in a context to justify your arguments, which, you must admit, are biased. A far as ,"woman secondary to man", if you are not a person of faith, then perhaps you find science more appealing. If so, then you should know that the very beginnings of life were but a single cell being of no sex yet able to be reproduce. I do wish you well dear.

CMN

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#19 Jul 23, 2014
Berrygirl, you either misread or misunderstood my comments. I said that "All human beings are born equal" and since women fall into that human category, your addition of "regardless of gender" is redundant. Thomas Jefferson used the phrase "pursuit of happiness" as a substitute for philosopher John Locke's use of the word "property" when listing unalienable rights because he was unsure if property was truly a human right. I think the word I used "liberty" is sufficient to convey the freedom to pursue one's own life course which encompasses "happiness". In what way am I biased? You do not think women are equal? You seem to be qualifying equality by using those same physical or personality traits I mentioned above as irrelevant to equality..... being human is the only qualifier. I stated that I expected many who posted on this topic to respond to my post that "woman is secondary to man" because the Bible says so over and over again as if that is some sort of justification. Of course, that is nonsense. But those who believe nonsense have carried those untenable reasons throughout the ages into our own discriminatory laws. My final statements were directed at those guys who posted their disdain for women overall, as if women whined and cajoled to get their way. Sometimes those have been the only means women could use to obtain any justice or standing in our society. It is a shame; if they were truly equal in our society, they could be straightforward in their actions and not have to resort to manipulative behavior.
shew

Garrett, KY

#20 Jul 23, 2014
I agree

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