Tragedy In KY.
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#2 May 2, 2013
THE SUCKER PUNCH wrote:
http://www.kentucky.com/2013/0 4/30/2621458/5-year-old-boy-ac cidentally-shoots.html
For once I can agree with you, this is a tragic event. At the least I think the parents need to be charged with negligence. Who leaves a gun within that easy of access to a five year old.(Even if it is the child's gun) There was no reason the gun should not have been locked away in a gun cabinet.

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#4 May 2, 2013
THE SUCKER PUNCH wrote:
This is most definitely a case of negligence and it's resulted in the most horrific outcome imaginable. To me, this is akin to something like Child Neglect and these parents should be charged. I almost hate to say that knowing that they're going through something this awful but really, this was totally preventable.
Strange day indeed that I can agree with you once again.

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#6 May 3, 2013
THE SUCKER PUNCH wrote:
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Now if only our supposed "contemporaries" both online and in Washington, D.C. could find those same type of key, instrumental common ground/shared agreements to build upon and cease this stalling stalemate that's negatively affecting all Americans.
I am empathetic to this family's recent tragedy but it ends at the point that this surpassed a mere "accident" as they're calling it and it became clear negligence and careless disregard.
In other states these parents would be facing charges.
redwhiteandblue

Pikeville, KY

#8 May 3, 2013
sad, i cant understand why the guns rights ppl dont advocate for more safety
i mean, we are responsible for what we do.
and anytime the govt tries to pass any kind of legislation concerning guy safety, you have the extremists come out screaming, "you wont pry my gun from my cold dead hands"...well, first, no one wants to take your gun.
we have hunting rifles, shotguns and handguns...what do we as average, everday citizens who hunt, or shoot for sport, need with assault rifles?
why are people getting so crazy over gun safety?
if this were the bush admin would anyone be so up in arms???
i think its mostly due to it being obama.
but, that being said, i feel for these parents, even though yes they are ultimately responsible, they still have lost a child and have another too young to understand what he will grow up hearing the rest of his life.
just put your guns on a gun rack out of childrens reach, and put them in a gun safe, and lock up your ammo and handguns....if you feel the need to keep one around for safety, then just keep it someplace where the kids cant get access to it...

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#9 May 3, 2013
THE SUCKER PUNCH wrote:
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As well they should be as far as I'm concerned. I see this story made all the major mainstream news outlets the last day or so and while most have all geared things to support Anti-Gun initiatives, I will agree with one point made by some of them: I too question the common sense and/or benefit of trying to "target" (no pun intended) children as gun buying patrons as Crickett Firearms has done. Don't get me wrong, I am all FOR guns of course and the 2nd Amendment but it's not sensible to put guns in to the hands of children at such an early age in my opinion. Anyway, these parents are going to have to live with this preventable tragedy the rest of their lives and I really feel sorry for the little boy that this unfortunately happened to but those parents should be charged and prosecuted.
Unlike most liberals, I support the 2nd to an extent. Like all rights, it is not boundless. Personally I wouldn't be opposed to stricter requirements, before allowing ownership. We force people to take a test before handing them a drivers license. We even make peopl take a class, and pass a test to carry concealed weapons. Why not make people take a basic gun safety class/test before issuing a license to own a gun. The SCOTUS ruled that only law abiding "responsible" citizens are protected by the 2nd. Well background checks can verify you're law abiding, but how can we determine if so done is "responsible". These parents were not responsible gun owners. No responsible gun owner, would leave a rifle within reach of a five year old, let alone leave a "loaded" firearm with in reach. These people broke so many of your basic gun safety rules, it's not even funny.
wtf

Nanuet, NY

#10 May 3, 2013
Bleeding Blue wrote:
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Unlike most liberals, I support the 2nd to an extent. Like all rights, it is not boundless. Personally I wouldn't be opposed to stricter requirements, before allowing ownership. We force people to take a test before handing them a drivers license. We even make peopl take a class, and pass a test to carry concealed weapons. Why not make people take a basic gun safety class/test before issuing a license to own a gun. The SCOTUS ruled that only law abiding "responsible" citizens are protected by the 2nd. Well background checks can verify you're law abiding, but how can we determine if so done is "responsible". These parents were not responsible gun owners. No responsible gun owner, would leave a rifle within reach of a five year old, let alone leave a "loaded" firearm with in reach. These people broke so many of your basic gun safety rules, it's not even funny.
In certain points I can agree with you on this.The only thing is if one adult in the home had a license to own a gun but another adult did not then that could be moot.

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#12 May 3, 2013
wtf wrote:
<quoted text>In certain points I can agree with you on this.The only thing is if one adult in the home had a license to own a gun but another adult did not then that could be moot.
Very true, again I'm just brainstorming. I don't have the answer to these problems, and it seems no one does. There has to be some common ground that can be reached. Something that both protects the rights of gun owners, but also protects the public safety. What that answer is I couldn't say. But what is truth, is that these parents were negligent, and showed no understanding of basic gun safety, and as such, would be brought up on charges, and possibly have their rights to own firearms removed.
Sam

Tempe, AZ

#13 May 3, 2013
Yes these parents should be brought up on charges and be made accountable.Anytime someone brings a gun into the home you have to understand the dangers involved if children should have access to them.Ive had guns in my home every since my child was born and my stuff stays locked to where my child cannot get it but I can get it quickly if the need would arise.
neglect

Pikeville, KY

#14 May 3, 2013
I believe their other child should be taken from them. they're big time guilty of neglect.
neglect

Pikeville, KY

#15 May 3, 2013
and background checks would not have saved this child if it's parent had a clean record. you can't fix stupid.
neglect

Pikeville, KY

#16 May 3, 2013
how many kids are killed on an atv, we gotta make paents pass some background check or get a licence to own a four wheeler?

the government isn't qualified to say who's qualified to own a gun. these politicians are liars and they're got no crediblity to tell who exercise their rights based on the way they've ran the nation into the ground.
neglect

Pikeville, KY

#17 May 3, 2013
right here in eastern ky it seems like you hear more aabout four wheeler deaths involving kids than gun deaths. you can't save kids from stupid parents unless you take the kids away and you're not gonna put my rights in jeporday in some misguided policy to save kids when they can't be saved by your laws.

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#18 May 3, 2013
Neglect, no one is suggesting taking away your rights. Calm down and understand the posts. Background checks would not have saved this kid, and no one suggested it would. But Background checks also do not infringe upon your right to own a gun, as long as you are a law abiding citizen. The suggestion I made about licensing a person to own a gun, was simply that, a suggestion. And again as long as you're law abiding, and can show a basic understanding of gun saftey, would in no way, infringe upon your rights to owna gun.

I agree that laws can't stop people from being stupid. This is true. And as I said, I dont claim to have the answers for these issues. As far as I've seen, no one does. Until the extreme anti-gun people calm down, and the pro-gun people stop treating every discussion about gun control/saftey as an attempt to take away thier guns. No solution will be found, because no real, open discussion will be had.

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#20 May 6, 2013
THE SUCKER PUNCH wrote:
Here we go again?
Yet another sibling has shot their sister, this time in Florida where the 6 yr. old girl is barely alive. Again, like in the KY. story, her 13 yr. old brother just happened to find an easily accessed gun in their home and a shooting resulted. This one is also being called an "accident" but dammit, when parents leave loaded guns out unsecured where kids can get their hands on them it is NOT a damned accident. It is neglect and child endangerment.
http://www.wtsp.com/news/florida/article/3149...
Once more, I find I'm in agreement with you. Odd that even we can find some common ground.
btw

Cantonment, FL

#21 May 6, 2013
gun safety education begins in the womb~!

play those subliminal tapes on the "babyphones"- enculturate your younguns early! teach your children well!

keep the damn guns away from kids, f'rchissake!
wtf

Liberty, KY

#22 May 6, 2013
btw wrote:
gun safety education begins in the womb~!
play those subliminal tapes on the "babyphones"- enculturate your younguns early! teach your children well!
keep the damn guns away from kids, f'rchissake!
You got a load shot down your throat Fairy.
Hagatha May

Orlando, FL

#23 May 6, 2013
wtf wrote:
<quoted text>You got a load shot down your throat Fairy.
Possum if you wasn't queer you could get you some Hag meat.TaTa Lady of no quality.
btw

Cantonment, FL

#25 May 6, 2013
your personal problems aren't my concern
wtf wrote:
<quoted text>(i) got a load shot down (my) throat Fairy.
L0L
wtf

Shelbiana, KY

#26 May 7, 2013
btw wrote:
your personal problems aren't my concern<quoted text>L0L
Your ythirst for semen is of no concern to me you Fairy.
wtf

Shelbiana, KY

#28 May 7, 2013
THE SUCKER PUNCH wrote:
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YOU are THE tragedy in Kentucky.
You are the garbage in the Trash.

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