Used car dealers using car shut-off device

Dec 6, 2007 | Posted by: Tinkie | Full story: www.wate.com

Beware if you are buying a used care in this area. Car dealers are installing a device under the dash that literally shuts the engine off if you fall behind on a payment. Every time you make a payment you are given a code to enter into the device. This is supposed to keep everything up to date and your car running uninterrupted. Sounds like a good idea on paper, huh?

The company says its device is a starter interrupt system that prevents a car from being turned on only if a payment isn't made or the customer has gone beyond the grace period. On Time claims the device will not turn off the car while it's running.

There are some used car patrons making complaints that the device prevents the car from being used even though their payments are up to date. The owners are saying if the car has a faulty alternator, battery or other electrical problem the On Time device will shut down your vehicle.

On Time claims electrical problems will not affect the operation of the device.

Credit Don Dare

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Advice

Knoxville, TN

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#42
Apr 1, 2011
 
If you go in to a car dealership new or used and they have you sign or have it in the writing and paperwork of a chip that could shut your car down any moment then I'd just walk out, if everyone else in America did the same thing how much you wanna lay on it that the dealership will take em all out to compete with the other dealerships who don't use them in the first place.
Just leave the lot and let them know why you'd rather not buy a car from them. They don't trust you enough let you drive off and know you'll pay then you shouldn't trust em enough to know they will sell you a dependable car, Right?
Cry Babies

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Apr 3, 2011
 

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If your credit didn't stink, you wouldn't have to buy at a buy here pay here lot. What the hell are you crying about? Just make the payments on time you idiots, and you won't have to worry about this. The ones crying about it are the ones who drain our tax dollars for food stamps, social security, and all the free crap you can get out of life. Grow up you stupid a$$holes
PassTime Installer

Baltimore, MD

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#44
Apr 3, 2011
 
Linda wrote:
I have a passtime device on my car and it caused my car to shut down while my daughter was driving on a busy highway. It had been beeping and causing the car not to start off and on for a few weeks, happened twice today and then totally shut down the car while it was being driven. These things are dangerous. My payments are always early and I had no problem with the buy here pay here installing it but they told me it was safe.
This is total BS. I install PassTime devices daily. These WILL NOT, I repeat _WILL NOT_ shut off a vehicle while it is running.

The manner in which it is connected, if you do not make your payment and enter a new code, it will not allow it to start, but it WILL NOT shut it off once it is running. It is connected to the wire which goes to the starter solenoid. If you don't make your payment, and do not enter a code, and the device disables the vehicle, when you turn the key to the "crank" position, nothing will happen.

The device is not connected in a manner that would allow the vehicle to be shut off while it is running.

Tampering with these devices can get you fined, or put in jail. I can understand how people don't like the device or the concept, but if you want a vehicle, and your credit is shot, this gives you the opportunity to still purchase and finance a vehicle. Would you rather just be turned down?

All the device does is helps to protect the dealer and the bank to help assure that the payments are made, and that if they are not, then the vehicle can be retrieved.

And as a side note, these devices also are considered an anti theft device, and therefore may qualify you for a discount on your automobile insurance.
ThomasA

Gadsden, AL

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Apr 3, 2011
 
Advice wrote:
If you go in to a car dealership new or used and they have you sign or have it in the writing and paperwork of a chip that could shut your car down any moment then I'd just walk out, if everyone else in America did the same thing how much you wanna lay on it that the dealership will take em all out to compete with the other dealerships who don't use them in the first place.
Just leave the lot and let them know why you'd rather not buy a car from them. They don't trust you enough let you drive off and know you'll pay then you shouldn't trust em enough to know they will sell you a dependable car, Right?
These car lots would not be in business if people wouldn't overload their butts with credit and have to let cars "go back". It's nice to have a new Mustang or a Jack-em-up truck,but so many people drive them a year,trash them,and the repo man gets them. The big surprise is when you try to get another decent car. With computer links, your bad credit history follows you wherever you go. Some car lots even have been known to hide a GPS device so they can find the car no matter where you hide it. Big Brother is riding around with you.
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Bristol, TN

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#46
Apr 4, 2011
 
your credit is your fault, your problem, and YOU should deal with he consequences of being untrustworthy, not the car dealer. They don't come to you, you go to them. It's you lying on the credit application about job time, pay, address, not paying your insurance on time, trashing the car in under a year, making monthly excuses about why you can't pay the payment that YOU asked for and swore in writing to pay, each month, on time until the loan is paid in full, not just until the car tears up or you find out your pregnant with your third kid and the 95 camaro won't hold anymore. You want to wine about being restricted LEGALLY by the dealer that you asked to owe? Give me a break. Here's an idea-- pay for your s--t on time or don't use credit. Ever think of that? Save money and buy a car cash. Then no one has to lose anything due to your failure to pay and you have the option to drop full coverage insurance that youprobably won't keep up on anyway. WTF happened to America?????????? A contract is entered into by two WILLING partners. By the way, dumba--es, if you buy at a buyhere/payhere lot, the down payment pays the dealer for the car, in full, up front. Thats why none of the cars are very expensive, so the dealer can buy them for $500-$3000. All payments made are 100% profit. If you default and the dealer takes the car back, guess what? You already paid for it, in full, for the next owner! and then that owners down payment is 100% profit AS WELL AS THEIR PAYMENTS.
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Gadsden, AL

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#47
Apr 4, 2011
 
Never ever sell a personal car to a neighbor,friend,fellow church member,no one on time. The reality judge shows on TV have so many cases where people agree to let someone make payments, the buyer wrecks,trashes,or screws up the car and then thay don't feel obligated to finish paying. When the alternator,battery,or starter goes out in six months , they expect you to fix it. People actually expect a warranty on a $500.00 car. It probally happens to everyone once but never twice unless you're totally stupid.
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May 6, 2011
 
Where is the stupid device located, and Disney Kid, where did you go to get it removed?? email me ryan.dean@live.com
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May 14, 2011
 
Due to faulty wiring from this device, my car will not start and smokes when wires are inserted and the place where i am still paying for this vehicle refuses to do anything about it.
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Gadsden, AL

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May 15, 2011
 
Ryan Dean wrote:
Where is the stupid device located, and Disney Kid, where did you go to get it removed?? email me ryan.dean@live.com
Ask the car lot to remove it AFTER you pay it off,not before.
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May 15, 2011
 
Tiffany wrote:
Due to faulty wiring from this device, my car will not start and smokes when wires are inserted and the place where i am still paying for this vehicle refuses to do anything about it.
If you are still paying it off, call the BBB. They can probally help.
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Jun 2, 2011
 
Mark wrote:
I know how to remove the device from the vehicle. I can email anybody instructions for $100. I work at a dealer and install them on a daily basis. Once the device is removed, the vehicle works perfect, without entering any codes or other bs. Beware if you bought a car in the last two years, your dealership may not of told you they have placed this device into your car. Some of the devices you would never know were there since you don't have to enter any code into them. it's not the part about being shut off if you don't pay, it's about privacy.m
email me Jessy6950@yahoo.com
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It takes a pretty low person that's screwed up his credit through his own actions to try to disable an ignition device and skip out on a buy here-pay here place. Those car lots are the last resort to buy on credit so if if you can't handle that, save up and pay cash or walk! The world does not owe you a car,house, and food, You have the right to WORK for for what you want and a DUTY to pay for it.
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#54
Jun 11, 2011
 
Huntsville,Alabama Thursday night. Thieves broke into a buy here-pay here car lot and took the keys and stole several cars. Dumb ass people! Those cars had GPS locating devices installed to find people who buy and won't pay so the police had little trouble finding the cars, one of which still had the very surprised driver in it. Chalk another one up to technology! Maybe the factories should start including location and cutoff devices in their electronics systems. The Police could punch in the VIN and neutralize the situation.
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#55
Jun 19, 2011
 
cheetah wrote:
<quoted text>we can get paid together talk to me man...
tha car company even refusd to give me a code even though i have my payments caUse i havent got my insuraNce just this mth can they do dat?
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Jun 19, 2011
 
ashley wrote:
<quoted text>tha car company even refusd to give me a code even though i have my payments caUse i havent got my insuraNce just this mth can they do dat?
Duh!!!! You have to have insurance on a financed car to protect the lien holder in case you or some toad destroys the car. If you can't get insurance, you don't need to be driving anyway. I'm surprised they let you leave the lot without proof of insurance.
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Jul 9, 2011
 
fresh wrote:
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Honestly u two people must be retarded, its funny that someone would pay so much for a car knowing you are being taken advantage of. However, ones left to beleive that someone in that particular situation had no other choice. I wonder why? Probable causes: Hmmmm perhaps bad credit for screwing anyone they could. How can you deadbeats be upset because the only person in the world that would think of giving you losers credit is a crook? Take a step back and think about it. YOU MADE THE DEAL!! NO CROOK IN THE PICTURE MAYBE A STUPID BUYER AND SELLER for TRUSTING YOUR ASS.
You need not call people retarded when you, yourself cannot spell. Thank you.
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Jul 20, 2011
 
PassTime Installer wrote:
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This is total BS. I install PassTime devices daily. These WILL NOT, I repeat _WILL NOT_ shut off a vehicle while it is running.
The manner in which it is connected, if you do not make your payment and enter a new code, it will not allow it to start, but it WILL NOT shut it off once it is running. It is connected to the wire which goes to the starter solenoid. If you don't make your payment, and do not enter a code, and the device disables the vehicle, when you turn the key to the "crank" position, nothing will happen.
The device is not connected in a manner that would allow the vehicle to be shut off while it is running.
Tampering with these devices can get you fined, or put in jail. I can understand how people don't like the device or the concept, but if you want a vehicle, and your credit is shot, this gives you the opportunity to still purchase and finance a vehicle. Would you rather just be turned down?
All the device does is helps to protect the dealer and the bank to help assure that the payments are made, and that if they are not, then the vehicle can be retrieved.
And as a side note, these devices also are considered an anti theft device, and therefore may qualify you for a discount on your automobile insurance.
These device can shut done anytime. Driving or not. I know this for a fact as it just happened to my brother who is disabled. While drivng down a major road they turned it off, even thu he is 2 month ahead on his payments.
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Jul 20, 2011
 
wrong wrote:
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These device can shut done anytime. Driving or not. I know this for a fact as it just happened to my brother who is disabled. While drivng down a major road they turned it off, even thu he is 2 month ahead on his payments.
As the great Paul Harvey always said........And now for the rest of the storey......There's something you're not telling. This storey isn't adding up!
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#60
Aug 2, 2011
 
i had bought a car from puruzzi buy here pay here and im on time with my car payments ive never been late .this car has been a nightmare for me ive only had this car for a yr.and nothing but problems.the first week i had it the altanator and battery went thankgod i had the warranty and then a month later transmission went they put a rebuilt one in and im still having problems with the transmission its slipping .now i need an axle which is 450.00 to get done and my power steering went i had to pay 450.00 this is a lemon ive told them they need to give me another car cause they sold me a lemon.and they wont do nothing about it.so im thinking about going to channel 3 on your side to let people know not to buy a car from there.if anyone is interested and wants to go to channel 3 on your side about this it would make a better case .here is my email maryjane.harris6@gmail.com .o yeah and now my battery keeps drainning with in 24 hrs and i have to keep getting jumps to start my car.its not fair for car dealers to do this to people.i live in langhorne.well contac me on my email if anyone wants to make a stink about public.thanks mj
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Aug 6, 2011
 
The finance co. f'd up my automatic payment. The morons shut me down. I called immediately to rectify their screw up. They couldn't get my truck turned back on. These devices are faulty. When I have to miss work because these idiots can't manage their IT, who will pay for my lost time? If they want to use these things, they Should get the damm things straight first. They haven't been perfected or tested properly. I'm bypassing mine.

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